All Things 2025 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

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GopherGrit said:
Did Maye play last year?

How can he be ready this year???
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Yes, Maye played last year and it was bad.

He is now taking off this year.

Over your head, but play dumb anyway.
 
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kg21 said:
Yes, Maye played last year and it was bad.

He is now taking off this year.

Over your head, but play dumb anyway.
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Apologies, he did play last year. They were 2-9 in the games he started. (He also started the last week but it only shows him attempting one pass, must've gotten hurt)


2-9 will never be on the table for the Vikings.

I'm glad for that. You'll have to find another franchise to root for, if that's what you want.
 


GopherWeatherGuy said:
That's not what we're talking about. Holding is much more subjective than catching a football.
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It is absolutely subjective and up to the head ref in that situation to decide if he caught the ball.

I'll allow that it could go either way, but for the effort and greatness of the play, and it being called a TD, it could easily have been allowed to stand and that's what should have happened.
 

GopherGrit said:
It is absolutely subjective and up to the head ref in that situation to decide if he caught the ball.

I'll allow that it could go either way, but for the effort and greatness of the play, and it being called a TD, it could easily have been allowed to stand and that's what should have happened.
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By the rule, he didn't catch the ball. It hit the ground. It's black and white.
 

GopherGrit said:
Apologies, he did play last year. They were 2-9 in the games he started. (He also started the last week but it only shows him attempting one pass, must've gotten hurt)


2-9 will never be on the table for the Vikings.

I'm glad for that. You'll have to find another franchise to root for, if that's what you want.
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2-9 shouldn't be on the table. The Vikings have the highest paid roster in the NFL this season. They are significantly more talented than NE last year, and even this year.

JJ McCarthy is never going to learn how to play QB by sitting on the bench.

Carson Wentz is also trash and needs to never see the field again. It's why he wasn't on a preseason roster.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
By the rule, he didn't catch the ball. It hit the ground. It's black and white.
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By the rule, holding happens every play. It's black and white, according to the rule.

Those refs could have allowed the called TD to stand. They were wrong to overturn.


No point discussing further, neither of us has any chance to convince the other. I'm satisfied with my opinion on this matter and won't budge on it.
 



GopherWeatherGuy said:
2-9 shouldn't be on the table. The Vikings have the highest paid roster in the NFL this season. They are significantly more talented than NE last year, and even this year.

JJ McCarthy is never going to learn how to play QB by sitting on the bench.

Carson Wentz is also trash and needs to never see the field again. It's why he wasn't on a preseason roster.
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Wentz will start the game at the Chargers, unless he got hurt this game.

McCarthy was third QB today, Sunday.

They get on a plane for LA on Wednesday. There's no time.
 

GopherGrit said:
By the rule, holding happens every play. It's black and white, according to the rule.

Those refs could have allowed the called TD to stand. They were wrong to overturn.


No point discussing further, neither of us has any chance to convince the other. I'm satisfied with my opinion on this matter and won't budge on it.
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There is no point because you keep trying to argue something we're not even talking about.
 


GopherGrit said:
Wentz will start the game at the Chargers, unless he got hurt this game.

McCarthy was third QB today, Sunday.

They get on a plane for LA on Wednesday. There's no time.
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Then start Brosmer. The Vikings aren't going anywhere with Wentz at QB this season.

The only reason to ever start Wentz was to avoid 'rookie' mistakes. Yet Wentz did nothing but make rookie mistakes today.
 



There must be a bit of trickery going on to claim we have the highest paid roster in the NFL.

Every NFL team has the same salary cap, and I doubt there's any team whose cap hit this season is significantly below the cap limit far more than any other.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Then start Brosmer. The Vikings aren't going anywhere with Wentz at QB this season.
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An undrafted rookie, who did amazingly well for himself just to make the roster?

They may well be going nowhere with Wentz, but they aren't going anywhere with Brosmer either.
 

Spaulding!No! said:
KOC playin his cards right to get another year.
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I don't know if I'd go there ... but I will say that I'd be fine dumping KAM. (No idea on what his contract is, if that's even possible.)

Everyone gushes over KOC. Coach of the year. Etc.

Seems wild to think about firing him this year.
 

GopherGrit said:
An undrafted rookie, who did amazingly well for himself just to make the roster?

They may well be going nowhere with Wentz, but they aren't going anywhere with Brosmer either.
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Says who? Brosmer can make simple throws to the flat and isn't stupid enough to make several of the rookie mistakes Wentz made today. Average QB play beats the Eagles today.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Says who? Brosmer can make simple throws to the flat and isn't stupid enough to make several of the rookie mistakes Wentz made today. Average QB play beats the Eagles today.
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Wentz had about 10 throws that ranged from bad to awful, in terms of accuracy and/or being a poor decision. Very frustrating.

He also had 26 completions for 313 yards against the defending champions. Including a new center who got badly beat a few times today.

If JJ just holds onto the ball and falls to the ground, that throw is a TD. Refs stole another TD away with an absolutely absurd "holding" call on Brandel. Refs stole another TD away with a silly decision to overturn a called TD that would have stayed that way in many other games with other crews.
 

GopherGrit said:
Wentz had about 10 throws that ranged from bad to awful, in terms of accuracy and/or being a poor decision. Very frustrating.

He also had 26 completions for 313 yards against the defending champions. Including a new center who got badly beat a few times today.

If JJ just holds onto the ball and falls to the ground, that throw is a TD. Refs stole another TD away with an absolutely absurd "holding" call on Brandel. Refs stole another TD away with a silly decision to overturn a called TD that would have stayed that way in many other games with other crews.
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So what if Wentz had a bunch of yards playing from behind all day today? He lost the game for them today.

The Eagles just lost to Bo Nix, taken after JJ McCarthy last year, and Jaxon Dart a rookie QB starting his 3rd game.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
So what if Wentz had a bunch of yards playing from behind all day today? He lost the game for them today.

The Eagles just lost to Bo Nix, taken after JJ McCarthy last year, and Jaxon Dart a rookie QB starting his 3rd game.
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I disagree. The Vikings defense lost the game today, with the absurd number of long bomb throws they allowed two Eagle receivers to make all day, to go along with getting nearly zero pressure on Hurts.

The offense wasn't great, and the no RZ TD's was unfortunate, but we win the game if they just make plays on half those throws.

AJ Brown - 4 catches, 30.3 yard average per catch, 2 TD

WTF??
 

I'm gonna sign off. I know I have no chance of winning this.

I know you're super passionate and displeased about the game. So am I.


I know that (again, barring injury, as I've said) Wentz is going to start at the Chargers. That doesn't even necessarily mean he'll play the whole game.


After that, we will have to see what happens.

Have a good one! Skol Vikings!
 

GopherGrit said:
Turner is the only guy KAM has drafted that plays on our defense.
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Oofda...I had never thought about it that way when critiquing KAM's drafting history. That seems to be almost an impossibility for a GM of his tenure.
 
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GopherGrit said:
I disagree. The Vikings defense lost the game today, with the absurd number of long bomb throws they allowed two Eagle receivers to make all day, to go along with getting nearly zero pressure on Hurts.

The offense wasn't great, and the no RZ TD's was unfortunate, but we win the game if they just make plays on half those throws.

AJ Brown - 4 catches, 30.3 yard average per catch, 2 TD

WTF??
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Wentz threw a pick 6, that was the difference in the game alone. On top of that he completely failed in the red zone. If those things don't happen, the Vikings win easily, and a couple of long 3rd down conversions by the Eagles are meaningless.
 

kg21 said:
Yes, Maye played last year and it was bad.

He is now taking off this year.

Over your head, but play dumb anyway.
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He’s got star written all over him!!! And he’s a big ass country kid, he’ll be like Big Ben and rarely get injured!!

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If only the Pats would have traded with us!!!

We should have given them another first/second whatever was needed instead of having Kwesi whiff on another pick!!!
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
I don't understand the complaints on the Hockenson non-TD. The bottom of the ball hit the ground, and he had control at first, then he lost control as he rolled over. It wasn't a catch.

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I was watching with a group of 7 friends. It was 8-0 unanimous that it was going to be ruled an incomplete pass during the review.

Anyone not acknowledging it is absolutely blind or ignorant of the rules.
 

GopherGrit said:
Correct.

It was correctly called a TD on the field, and could have very easily been left alone. That would have been the call if it was the Eagles.

Rigged
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You're losing any shred of credibility with that take.
 

Married@SiebertField said:
It must be my 62 year old Viking eyes but I’m not seeing the “indisputable visual evidence” of a mistaken call. Nevertheless, the deserving team won the game and it’s time to move on to LA.
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You should see an opthalmologist ASAP.

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GopherGrit said:
For once, once, this drum you pound no matter what, every time, is actually correct.

70-80% of this loss was on the defense, plain and simple.


Almost zero pressure on Hurts. Has all day the throw. And then 4-5 massive, huge throws that are inexcusible.

Defense lost the game today.

Offense was not great ... but they scored points because they consistently were able to march down the field. That's something.
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Very bizarre take putting this more on the Vikings Defense who gave up 21 points, when the Offense Scored 22.

How are you not factoring in the other points (pick 6) which accounts for the margin of the defeat?
 

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