All Things 2025 Minnesota Twins In-Season Thread

[Ope3]

Anytime culture issues are repeatedly brought up, it starts with the manager.

Where does trading the Manager's Top 5 options in the Bullpen fit in with "culture issues".

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Try hitting a home run with people on base. Just kidding.

Valid cometary; but guys also have to get on base in front of of him

Good data,

Thanks

he just frustrates the heck out of me. I hate waiting around for the big blast, going base to base.

Rocco gave the team collectively the Green Light for the last couple months of the season and from thst point forward the Twins lead MLB in thefts, per the Twins MLB best writer.

I hope they remain aggressive next year, putting pressure on the defensive and pitchers and implementing a no head first slide rule.

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

Where does trading the Manager's Top 5 options in the Bullpen fit in with "culture issues".

There has been murmurs of culture issues for several years now, long before the bullpen was traded away.

 

[Ope3]

There has been murmurs of culture issues for several years now, long before the bullpen was traded away.

I get that, but I think the culture issues were above Rocco's level.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Thought people would like to know this.

Celebrating this is akin to getting a gal’s number back in the day, but when you fish out that bar napkin and call it, you reach a fax machine. I was told this story by my compadres and never experienced it myself

They’re just a 21st century version of the Braves

 

[TRF Guy]

WOW. Did not think they'd do it.

Rocco doesn't determine who is on his team, but he controlled a number of things that were downright awful.
Base running, bullpen management, in game management were atrocious.
The Pohlads are still terrible, but this is one move that makes sense. Buh bye Rocco

 

[TRF Guy]

 

[Ope3]

Rocco doesn't determine who is on his team, but he controlled a number of things that were downright awful.
Base running, bullpen management, in game management were atrocious.
The Pohlads are still terrible, but this is one move that makes sense. Buh bye Rocco

I'm quite skeptical that Rocco controlled bullpen management. Those decisions I truly believe were made by whatever spreadsheet he was handed during a pre-game meeting with the analytics department.

If they hire someone without any previous MLB Managerial experience, I expect zero change in that aspect. None.

 

[TRF Guy]

Falvey needs to go too

 

[Lou Brown]

Oldtimers will tell you that one of the best ways to judge a coach is how well his team runs the bases. What I saw was brutal.

That being said - I have some friends in the org and it’s widely known that Rocco doesn’t set the line up, the computers do.

Seems like a good dude and I’m sure he’ll have another job in baseball shortly.

 

[tikited]

Celebrating this is akin to getting a gal’s number back in the day, but when you fish out that bar napkin and call it, you reach a fax machine. I was told this story by my compadres and never experienced it myself

They’re just a 21st century version of the Braves

Sorry, I can't hear you over all the champagne clinking.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Sorry, I can't hear you over all the champagne clinking.

Remember this festive feast once they get bounced from the playoffs

At least you’ll have that 2025 NL West Division Shirt to cry into, after another Davy Roberts choke job

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

I get that, but I think the culture issues were above Rocco's level.

That's just an excuse. A good coach can still have a great team culture regardless of how much support they get from above. This team was undisciplined and did not look like they cared half of the time over the last two years.

 

[Ope3]

That's just an excuse. A good coach can still have a great team culture regardless of how much support they get from above. This team was undisciplined and did not look like they cared half of the time over the last two years.

I think that's an oversimplification. If the Front Office drafts duds, have duds developing them in the minors, influenced the hiring of duds on the coaching staff, trainers & medical at the MLB level then you get duds on the playing field too.

Perhaps Rocco fit right in with all the dud hires himself, but maybe not.

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

I think that's an oversimplification. If the Front Office drafts duds, have duds developing them in the minors, influenced the hiring of duds on the coaching staff, trainers & medical at the MLB level then you get duds on the playing field too.

Perhaps Rocco fit right in with all the dud hires himself, but maybe not.

I don't think so. You can typically see it immediately with coaching changes.

The Twins have had a lot of talented players do well in the minors, only to become duds in the majors. They also had the highest payroll in the AL Central. I think that's only helping my point.

The Gophers are a good example of this. They have bottom 1/3 resources in the B1G, yet PJ has success due to his culture, organization, and being able to identify and develop under the radar talent. I think Niko will be very similar for basketball and how he runs a program will be an immediate upgrade over BJ.

 

[Ope3]

I don't think so. You can typically see it immediately with coaching changes.

The Twins have had a lot of talented players do well in the minors, only to become duds in the majors. They also had the highest payroll in the AL Central. I think that's only helping my point.

The Gophers are a good example of this. They have bottom 1/3 resources in the B1G, yet PJ has success due to his culture, organization, and being able to identify and develop under the radar talent. I think Niko will be very similar for basketball and how he runs a program will be an immediate upgrade over BJ.

I don't think even Terry Francona could help this sorry lot much. Sure he could squeeze a couple extra wins but that's it.

Talented minor league players who can't do it at the majors to me signals they weren't prepared well enough at the lower levels or were the wrong choices to begin with.

The payroll comment means the front office spent it rather unwisely. Correa was banged up and unproductive. Dumped for zilch. $33 million. Vasquez another 8 figure contract. No manager is going to overcome that. Take those out alone and where do they stack up against the AL Central?

I don't think there's anything analogous between MLB and NCAA football/basketball where everyone is a Free Agent, every year. Zip.