All Things 2025 Minnesota Twins In-Season Thread

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Well that was less than satisfying. I'm comforted by the fact that we've already locked up Rocco for another year.
 



Ope3 said:
The teams that lost to the Astros in the Playoffs/World Series seem to have longer and louder memories.
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Dodgers are cheating way harder being able to pay Ohtani a couple million a year with the rest of it being backdated. The dodgers just buy an all star team each year.
 



The odds Ohtani hits a home run is a lot less than the next guy just needing a base hit.

Damn you, Rocco!
 


Slim Tubby said:
Check your sarcasm detector...I think it's malfunctioning.
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Oh I know what you did there and I’m still sticking to my comment. It’s tough to get canned being a manager for the Twins. They usually do the opposite
 




GophersInIowa said:
Saw a report that the asking price for Jax or Duran is multiple top 100 prospects. If they could get a say top 30 and top 75 I'd probably do it. But if it's two from the 75-100 range, I'd pass.
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Here’s what Passan is reporting as the asking prices for Jax/Duran -

Best asset: Jhoan Duran, RP

The latest: The Twins are among the most frustrating teams in baseball because they have plenty of talent. Teams adore Joe Ryan, and while he is perhaps the best arm available of any in the mix at the deadline, teams look at what the Twins are asking for to acquire Duran or Jax -- at least two top-100-caliber prospects -- and aren't inclined to spend a whole lot of time workshopping deals for a top-10 starter this season with two more years of club control.

Perhaps the ask on Duran and Jax deflates between now and the deadline, but Minnesota is historically a team that sets a high bar on returns and doesn't deviate. For a team with championship aspirations, either of them would register as a monumental addition, so it's not an entirely unreasonable position for the Twins to take. But if they do try to (A) cash in on a relief arm, (B) deal Brock Stewart, (C) move Castro -- a free-agent-to-be who since mid-May is slashing .280/.379/.495 while playing second base, third base, left field and right field -- and (D) get something for Edouard Julien or Jose Miranda, the future could look a whole lot brighter.

Add the deadline returns to a near-ready group of position-playing prospects (center fielder Emmanuel Rodriguez, corner outfielder Walker Jenkins, infielder Luke Keaschall) and the Twins could be primed to contend in the American League Central next year. A mild reset could be just what the Twins need as the team is sold.
 

TRF Guy said:
Oh I know what you did there and I’m still sticking to my comment. It’s tough to get canned being a manager for the Twins. They usually do the opposite
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Lots of job security working for the Pohlads regardless of results. I'm hoping new ownership torches the coaching staff and Front Office.
 


Jax shit the bed…. Jax walked Ruiz which is their version of DaShawn Keirsey Jr…. Jax’s pitches to Ruiz were brutal… Jax didn’t execute against a scrub game should of been over…
 








howeda7 said:
Blatantly skirting the salary cap/luxury tax.
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Is everyone allowed to do it?

If the twins were doing it, no one here would bat an eye. Multiple teams do it, and if it’s so advantageous, more can. If it hurts all the small market teams, they could try outlaw it.
 

upnorthkid said:
Is everyone allowed to do it?

If the twins were doing it, no one here would bat an eye. Multiple teams do it, and if it’s so advantageous, more can. If it hurts all the small market teams, they could try outlaw it.
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It should not be allowed. It was a funny/quaint thing with Bobby Bonilla. It's absurd in Ohtani's case. The commissioner is gutless to allow it and it should be banned in the next CBA.

Imagine if the Chiefs could pay Patrick Mahomes $1 Million now and the other $40 million of his 2025 salary in 20 years.
 

upnorthkid said:
Is everyone allowed to do it?

If the twins were doing it, no one here would bat an eye. Multiple teams do it, and if it’s so advantageous, more can. If it hurts all the small market teams, they could try outlaw it.
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The Twins wouldn’t be able to do it. That’s the issue. They have zero chance of signing a guy like Ohtani even if they offered him more than the Dodgers. No player is going to defer that much money at a smaller market.
 

howeda7 said:
It should not be allowed. It was a funny/quaint thing with Bobby Bonilla. It's absurd in Ohtani's case. The commissioner is gutless to allow it and it should be banned in the next CBA.

Imagine if the Chiefs could pay Patrick Mahomes $1 Million now and the other $40 million of his 2025 salary in 20 years.
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If it counted against the cap, that’s fine

Baseball should implement a salary cap (a real one). They never will now as the players union would never go for it. There are multiple teams deferring hundreds of millions in salary.

To @GophersInIowa point on the Twins can’t, they can. But a player would have to be comfortable they’d be good for the money. In LA though, the amount they’re making off this team (and Ohtani especially worldwide) is going to make the deferral worth the money. The twins probably couldn’t capitalize to that extent due to their brand.

I don’t feel bad for the teams that have as much power choosing to not outlaw it. Same as I don’t begrudge Vegas or TB for winning Stanley cups playing within the rules that were written
 


www.espn.com

Naylor to Mariners? Who lands Suarez? MLB trade deadline dominoes for the 10 biggest names on the market

Based on what ESPN's Jeff Passan is hearing, we predict where the top trade candidates will land -- and how they affect each other.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

5. Twins trade Griffin Jax to Mets​

One guarantee of the trade deadline: The Mets will add to the bullpen, probably with more than one trade. Though the rotation still ranks fifth in ERA, that was built off a hot start. More importantly, the only Mets starter to complete six innings since June 7 has been David Peterson. As a result, manager Carlos Mendoza has run relievers Reed Garrett, Huascar Brazoban, Jose Butto and Ryne Stanek into the ground. The bullpen had a 2.78 ERA through May, but that figure is over 5.00 since the beginning of June (ranking near the bottom of the majors).

The Twins have two high-profile relievers in Duran and Jax, both of whom are under team control through 2027, so they'll be much more expensive than your usual short-term relievers if the Twins decide to trade one or both. Duran would be harder to deal -- but bring more in return -- so we'll say Jax will go. Don't be fooled by his 4.09 ERA: He has 68 strikeouts and 12 walks in 44 innings with a 97-mph heater. He's an elite strikeout reliever, the type you want on the mound in October.
 

Unregistered User said:
www.espn.com

Naylor to Mariners? Who lands Suarez? MLB trade deadline dominoes for the 10 biggest names on the market

Based on what ESPN's Jeff Passan is hearing, we predict where the top trade candidates will land -- and how they affect each other.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

5. Twins trade Griffin Jax to Mets​

One guarantee of the trade deadline: The Mets will add to the bullpen, probably with more than one trade. Though the rotation still ranks fifth in ERA, that was built off a hot start. More importantly, the only Mets starter to complete six innings since June 7 has been David Peterson. As a result, manager Carlos Mendoza has run relievers Reed Garrett, Huascar Brazoban, Jose Butto and Ryne Stanek into the ground. The bullpen had a 2.78 ERA through May, but that figure is over 5.00 since the beginning of June (ranking near the bottom of the majors).

The Twins have two high-profile relievers in Duran and Jax, both of whom are under team control through 2027, so they'll be much more expensive than your usual short-term relievers if the Twins decide to trade one or both. Duran would be harder to deal -- but bring more in return -- so we'll say Jax will go. Don't be fooled by his 4.09 ERA: He has 68 strikeouts and 12 walks in 44 innings with a 97-mph heater. He's an elite strikeout reliever, the type you want on the mound in October.
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Why put this click bait here if Jax has not been traded to the Mets?
 


Slim Tubby said:
Personally, I love trade speculation and rumor columns no matter what the sport is. I didn't even have to "click" anything because UU was kind enough to highlight the Twins portion of the article.
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Not me. The click bait is tiresome as these writers do lazy journalism. In the past week people have speculated about Jax going to a handful of teams.
But, for speculation sake, how do you think Jax blowing the save, yesterday, hurts his chances of being picked up by the Dodgers?
 

Not sure...but then again, I'm not a highly respected MLB journalist with contacts across the league like Jeff Passan.
 

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