All Things 2022 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread




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Just brutal. The boos in the stadium were something. I hate to give up on a coach two games in, but he seems completely over his head. How every coach doesn't have a dedicated game management coach these days is beyond me.
 



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@Ogee Oglethorpe, your Raiders and Cardinals had an absolutely epic Q4 and OT. What team were you cheering for?

Skol Vikes!!
I was pulling for the Raiders. I think the Raiders have a higher ceiling this year and it's getting harder and harder to get behind the Cardinals. Lots of people were calling for KK and GM Keim's head BEFORE the Murray contract signing debacle. I supported the Kingsbury hire initially, now, I'm not so sure.

Signing Murray to his extension was a colossal mistake, there was zero reason to give him an extension when they did. They needed one more year of solid information to make that call. Good grief, he literally had just finished his second season in a row where he was dinged up and the Cardinals faltered miserably down the stretch. Everything out of the organization has indicated Murray is not much of a leader, his body language on the field is horrendous (for your franchise QB), he's not been durable, the size issue, batted balls, you name it. I thought he handled the study clause like a whiny bitch, especially since he had just been quoted months earlier as saying he doesn't have to study, his mind works differently than other people, photographic memory, whatever the hell it was. Just stupid.
 

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Hackett and Russ deserve each other. I took the Texans (+10) and never looked back.

Something interesting happened in this game though, that FG attempt. The refs blew the whistle on delay of game faster than you EVER see in the NFL these days. Normally, you get a good additional beat after the play clock hits zero; McManus makes the kick, they call Delay, the Broncos end up punting instead. In this case, that ref blew the whistle the millisecond the play clock hit zero. Didn't affect the outcome, but I thought that was interesting.
 

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I was pulling for the Raiders. I think the Raiders have a higher ceiling this year and it's getting harder and harder to get behind the Cardinals. Lots of people were calling for KK and GM Keim's head BEFORE the Murray contract signing debacle. I supported the Kingsbury hire initially, now, I'm not so sure.

Signing Murray to his extension was a colossal mistake, there was zero reason to give him an extension when they did. They needed one more year of solid information to make that call. Good grief, he literally had just finished his second season in a row where he was dinged up and the Cardinals faltered miserably down the stretch. Everything out of the organization has indicated Murray is not much of a leader, his body language on the field is horrendous (for your franchise QB), he's not been durable, the size issue, batted balls, you name it. I thought he handled the study clause like a whiny bitch, especially since he had just been quoted months earlier as saying he doesn't have to study, his mind works differently than other people, photographic memory, whatever the hell it was. Just stupid.

And despite all of that, Murray pretty much beat the Raiders himself yesterday.
 

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Hackett and Russ deserve each other. I took the Texans (+10) and never looked back.

Something interesting happened in this game though, that FG attempt. The refs blew the whistle on delay of game faster than you EVER see in the NFL these days. Normally, you get a good additional beat after the play clock hits zero; McManus makes the kick, they call Delay, the Broncos end up punting instead. In this case, that ref blew the whistle the millisecond the play clock hit zero. Didn't affect the outcome, but I thought that was interesting.
Excellent point, I noticed that too. That was really close to even being delay of game and it's almost never called if it's only 1/2 a second after the clock hits :00.

Seems like it would be super easy for one of the refs to have some kind of buzzer hooked up to the play clock so when it hits :00 they hear a buzzer going off. Then they don't have to look at the clock, then back down at the play.
 



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Excellent point, I noticed that too. That was really close to even being delay of game and it's almost never called if it's only 1/2 a second after the clock hits :00.

Seems like it would be super easy for one of the refs to have some kind of buzzer hooked up to the play clock so when it hits :00 they hear a buzzer going off. Then they don't have to look at the clock, then back down at the play.
The problem with that premise is that the NFL wants offense and points. So calling delay of game penalties doesn't help that goal. Hence, why they get the "extra" second and always give the benefit of the doubt to the offense. Aaron Rodgers has mastered using the "extra" second. If they started calling it like it should be, the Packers would be flagged for delay about 10 times a game. Of course offenses would adjust, and it would be a non-issue after a couple games, but instead they play this game of pretend.
 

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I'm excited to watch the Vikings with my 8 year old son tonight. He's not much of a sports kid yet. But some friends at school got him doing the "griddy," which has made him at least somewhat interested. Whatever it takes I guess.
 

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Excellent point, I noticed that too. That was really close to even being delay of game and it's almost never called if it's only 1/2 a second after the clock hits :00.

Seems like it would be super easy for one of the refs to have some kind of buzzer hooked up to the play clock so when it hits :00 they hear a buzzer going off. Then they don't have to look at the clock, then back down at the play.

The problem with that premise is that the NFL wants offense and points. So calling delay of game penalties doesn't help that goal. Hence, why they get the "extra" second and always give the benefit of the doubt to the offense. Aaron Rodgers has mastered using the "extra" second. If they started calling it like it should be, the Packers would be flagged for delay about 10 times a game. Of course offenses would adjust, and it would be a non-issue after a couple games, but instead they play this game of pretend.
Is it really even an "extra" second?

When the clock moves to :01 to :00, wouldn't really be :009, :008 etc? The play clocks are not calibrated to the the tenths of a second.

I assumed that's why the refs see it hit ":00" they give them "1 second leeway".
 

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Is it really even an "extra" second?

When the clock moves to :01 to :00, wouldn't really be :009, :008 etc? The play clocks are not calibrated to the the tenths of a second.

I assumed that's why the refs see it hit ":00" they give them "1 second leeway".
I would interpret it the way a shot clock works in basketball. They didn't used to have the "tenth" place on the clocks, just full seconds. When it got to 00's, it's a violation. If they say that there are imaginary tenths that just aren't shown, then you're relying on the refs to count that last second down, which in a multi-billion dollar industry seems overly elementary. At the end of the day, it doesn't particularly matter as long it's applied consistently. The point the original post was making was that in this case it seemed to diverge from the "norm" on how they're calling this, to which I would agree.

Either way, that was an absolutely brutal stretch of plays for the Broncos.
 



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I would interpret it the way a shot clock works in basketball. They didn't used to have the "tenth" place on the clocks, just full seconds. When it got to 00's, it's a violation. If they say that there are imaginary tenths that just aren't shown, then you're relying on the refs to count that last second down, which in a multi-billion dollar industry seems overly elementary. At the end of the day, it doesn't particularly matter as long it's applied consistently. The point the original post was making was that in this case it seemed to diverge from the "norm" on how they're calling this, to which I would agree.

Either way, that was an absolutely brutal stretch of plays for the Broncos.

I guess one way to find out would be when they set it to "40" does it go right away to "39" or take 1 second. If it takes a second, then we know when it goes from :01 to :00 there really is a second left.

This feels like a Cliff Clavin/Norm Peterson conversation.
 

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I know it's early, but no one in the NFC is looking like a power-house off the bat, and several teams are having injury issues.

this conference is wide-open for a team that can play well and stay healthy. we'll see if the Vikes can pull that off. I like the starters, but I think the depth is suspect.
 










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this defense is brutal like last year.

Old and slower than shit. I was skeptical after last week, but this is who they are.
 

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Hicks and #24 are weak links
D-line is getting blown away.

Linebackers can't run.

Peterson and Smith are slow as shit. And Bynum seems to always be in the wrong spot. He looks slow, too.

This should be a fun year.
 

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Plenty of Viking hype. Down 21 to 7. Hopefully they can turn it around, starting now!
 

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It's been a team effort. The Viking Offense and Defense has been awful. Though the punting has been okay.
 

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they wanted to run the clock out from the 4 yard line. We wouldn't allow it.

LMAO
 





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