All Things 2022 Minnesota Twins In-Season Thread



kg21

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That’s not even the problem. As it is not considered blocking the plate if you are making a legitimate attempt to catch the ball. Because the ball was thrown right at the base Gary has every right to be there.

The “rule” is not really a rule as it’s just an opinion and nothing more. When you think of all the other rules in baseball they are black and white except for balks. This “rule” is just an opinion.
Rest assured, if that were a game , and it was the yankees in the field, the call would have went the exact same way. LMAO
 





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Wit purposely slid like shit to basically force the play to be called his way. If he slides in foul territory and is tagged out replay is not there to save him. By sliding in fair territory and right into Gary he was basically given a free pass on if he was called out as replay could save his save.

Again there is not reason to try and avoid catchers anymore. Just slide into them if you think you’re gonna be out and you have a shit that replay will save you.
 

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Wit purposely slid like shit to basically force the play to be called his way. If he slides in foul territory and is tagged out replay is not there to save him. By sliding in fair territory and right into Gary he was basically given a free pass on if he was called out as replay could save his save.

Again there is not reason to try and avoid catchers anymore. Just slide into them if you think you’re gonna be out and you have a shit that replay will save you.

Watch we’ll miss the playoffs by one game - the 👻 of Drew Pearson pushes off again
 





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From now on in baseball when sliding into home plate slide feet first right at the middle of the plate. There is no advantage to trying to avoid the contact and grab a corner. Just slide into the catcher if they are there and get rewarded.
This is the first time I have ever seen them overturn a play at the plate for blocking. Complete BS call.
 

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No way they will ever reverse this call now. However, the discussion will clearly continue among the sports media on Monday.
 

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This was outrageous. Sanchez set up well outside of the running lane, when the ball was slightly to his left he moved into a natural position to catch it, and still buckled his back leg giving Merrifield a clear lane to the back of the plate. Based on the MLB's response, their position now seems to be "if there is any way we can possibly imagine the catcher contorting his body to catch a ball without getting in any part of the runners path to the plate, then he needs to assume some weird limbo position to catch the ball while leaning backwards and keeping his legs out of the baseline, and then try to blindly apply the tag behind his back."
 




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This was outrageous. Sanchez set up well outside of the running lane, when the ball was slightly to his left he moved into a natural position to catch it, and still buckled his back leg giving Merrifield a clear lane to the back of the plate. Based on the MLB's response, their position now seems to be "if there is any way we can possibly imagine the catcher contorting his body to catch a ball without getting in any part of the runners path to the plate, then he needs to assume some weird limbo position to catch the ball while leaning backwards and keeping his legs out of the baseline, and then try to blindly apply the tag behind his back."
Yeah, their explanation is complete BS. Sanchez has a right to be there to catch the ball. It hit him dead center just above his head. How is that not evidence that the throw took him to that spot? It’s like they expect him to sit further to the right and then reach with his glove as far as he can to his left to catch the ball. It defies common sense.
 

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This is the first time I have ever seen them overturn a play at the plate for blocking. Complete BS call.
As convoluted as the rule is, I could have lived with it if that was how the Ump called it on the field (judgement call). Having it overturned via replay is a bunch of B(rown) S(tuff).

Watch we’ll miss the playoffs by one game - the 👻 of Drew Pearson pushes off again

No sure thing that the Twins would have eventually taken the lead to win the game.
 

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Glen Perkins (who has become my favorite analyst in the BSN stable) nailed it. He said there's no problem with looking at replay on things that are black and white (like the previous play at 3rd where Merrifield was clearly safe), but in an instance like this, where it's not a black and white call, it's an opinion, there's a big problem with using replay to overturn the call.
 

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Go to :34. If he stays where he initially set up then he would have to reach far to his left to catch the ball. He had every right to move over.

 

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Glen Perkins (who has become my favorite analyst in the BSN stable) nailed it. He said there's no problem with looking at replay on things that are black and white (like the previous play at 3rd where Merrifield was clearly safe), but in an instance like this, where it's not a black and white call, it's an opinion, there's a big problem with using replay to overturn the call.
And like the NFL, they almost always leave it as called unless it's obvious. That's what should have happened yesterday.
 

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I've been critical of Rocco's decision making many times over his tenure with the Twins. In this instance, I need to praise both his immediate response and carrying that over into the press conference. I'm sure he was advised to tone it down or cool off by the PR team prior to the interview, but he held nothing back. It was an absolutely idiotic overturn that should result in consequences for those that made it.
 

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As convoluted as the rule is, I could have lived with it if that was how the Ump called it on the field (judgement call). Having it overturned via replay is a bunch of B(rown) S(tuff).



No sure thing that the Twins would have eventually taken the lead to win the game.

Just an attempt, albeit a weak effort, to prevent a Middle Aged Meltdown.
 

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Just an attempt, albeit a weak effort, to prevent a Middle Aged Meltdown.
I get the outrage by the Twins, Rocco and the fanbase (including myself).

However, they had a runner in scoring position with 1 out in the bottom of the 9th after they tied it up and failed. Also they still had their home half of the 10th to tie it up and win. So in the end...excuses are for losers.
 

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FWIW -

Carlos Correa since July 1-
.186/.288/.333 - .621 OPS

according to Fangraphs on $ per fWAR - Correa this season has been worth $13.6-million. (on a salary of $35-million).
 


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I get the outrage by the Twins, Rocco and the fanbase (including myself).

However, they had a runner in scoring position with 1 out in the bottom of the 9th after they tied it up and failed. Also they still had their home half of the 10th to tie it up and win. So in the end...excuses are for losers.
That has nothing to do with the horrendous, and I mean horrendous, loser of a call that was.
 

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That has nothing to do with the horrendous, and I mean horrendous, loser of a call that was.
That they failed in the 9th inning which would have made it a moot point? Sure it does. No matter how lame it was.

It was indeed lame.
 



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I get the outrage by the Twins, Rocco and the fanbase (including myself).

However, they had a runner in scoring position with 1 out in the bottom of the 9th after they tied it up and failed. Also they still had their home half of the 10th to tie it up and win. So in the end...excuses are for losers.
Yes and Keplers base running in the 10th with no outs not going to third on the fly ball was terrible.
 





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