Iceland12
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What would it take the wolves to get Lilliard? Would you want him given projected cost?
Only if they'd take Russell in return.
What would it take the wolves to get Lilliard? Would you want him given projected cost?
That's just the kind of "splash deal" meddling, dumbass rookie owners demand. Bring in a big name player (e.g. Westbrook, Dame or Parise, Suter in hockey) who's expensive, past his prime and/or not a fit. The media goes gaga for a week and poor Lore doesn't get to take his shoes off very often for the next five years.He's past his prime. They'd be foolish to even consider him.
If he was a few years younger, then it'd be worth it. He'd help the Wolves get a top 4 seed in the Wset.
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Howl Wolves!!
The lasagne was obviously extra good.Lore and ARod find the shark and Glen Taylor is always closing:
Howl Wolves!!
Taylor had no experience but he hired McHale and Flip, then he pretty much left them alone. They had a nine year run of competence, which wasn't bad. It would have been better if Taylor hadn't tried to screw his fellow owners by signing Joe Smith to a secret deal. That cost the team several draft picks over multiple years, IIRC.
Taylor has been a lousy owner. Nobody would argue that. He's compounding his mismanagement by turning the team over to two guys who don't own a controlling interest, have no NBA or sports ownership experience and one of whom is a serial liar. He's also compounding his mismanagement by turning the team over to two guys who have no reason to keep our team here and then lying about that part of the deal.
The message that Lore and ARod are sending is that they aren't going to leave their employees alone to do their jobs and, if you don't excite them, you're gone.
Rosas gets credit for putting this roster together. He gets the blame for the terrible DLo trade and the Culver trade/draft. If the rumors are correct that his staff opposed those two moves, it's probably safe to assume that Gupta was a part of that opposition. Rosas gets the blame for badly mismanaging the department. Gupta gets credit for restoring stability and morale to the department. Gupta gets credit for not making a trade at the deadline just to show ARod and Lore he was "doing something." I'm sure the other POBO's were circling him like chum in the water.
Finally, if the rumors are accurate that they are talking to Connelly about an eight year deal, what morons do eight year deals anymore? Angels for Pujols? Wild for Suter and Parise?
The wolves are going to turn their basketball ops over to a guy who has never won a championship for eight years? Crazy. When Lore and ARod and their cool shoes become distant memories, the wolves will be living for quite a while with that contract. If Lore and ARod actually find the money to complete the purchase of the team, it will cost them a lot of money to buy Connelly out once they are bored by him.
Lore and Rod haven't bought the team yet. That's problem #1 with the move. Problem #2 with the move is that it's a cliche. Brand new owners have to make a splashy move. Maybe the "out of the box" move is to let the situation build and mature. You've got a guy who is very highly regarded, though not a self promoter, running the show. Maybe the creative move is to give him a couple of years with a strong coach to continue to build this thing. Problem #3 with the move is you are reportedly going to be tied to Connelly for eight years for a huge number plus some equity. That's a drowning deal, not a splashy deal. Problem #4 with the move is hubris. Lore/ARod's inability to admit that they don't know what they don't know. Just because you made G League money in one industry doesn't make you a genius seven or eight months into another industry.How many NBA owners or any owners of professional sports teams have experience owning a team before buying one? You don't like Connelly because he hasn't won a championship in 8 years? 6 different teams have won the NBA championship over the last 8 years. Steph Curry and LeBron James are responsible for 5 of the 8 championships. I guess he should have just signed one of them...
Tim Connelly replaced Masai Ujiri in Denver. Urjiri oversaw 3 first round exits before leaving for Toronto. Yet he won a championship in Toronto 6 years later. I guess he did know how to assemble a championship roster without ever doing it before.
Lore has been a very successful business owner to even be in the position he's in today. Connelly has proven to be a top executive in the league. It's quite obvious that you're letting your hatred for Lore/ARod cloud your judgement that the Wolves are adding a top, proven executive to their franchise, something all Wolves fans should be happy about.
Glad they didn't give up any picks.They gave Connelly $40,000,000 and a piece of the franchise.
What they didn't have to do was give Denver any draft picks.
Welcome Mr.Connelly and Good Luck.
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Lore and Rod haven't bought the team yet. That's problem #1 with the move. Problem #2 with the move is that it's a cliche. Brand new owners have to make a splashy move. Maybe the "out of the box" move is to let the situation build and mature. You've got a guy who is very highly regarded, though not a self promoter, running the show. Maybe the creative move is to give him a couple of years with a strong coach to continue to build this thing. Problem #3 with the move is you are reportedly going to be tied to Connelly for eight years for a huge number plus some equity. That's a drowning deal, not a splashy deal. Problem #4 with the move is hubris. Lore/ARod's inability to admit that they don't know what they don't know. Just because you made G League money in one industry doesn't make you a genius seven or eight months into another industry.
You are correct that I don't like Lore and Alex. We now have three guys in the owners' suite who are bullshitters. It puts the Timberwolves as a Minnesota franchise in peril. In 1995 Bob Arum tried to steal the team and take it to New Orleans without actually having the money to buy it. We have a much more sophisticated, long play variation of that going on now.
This. I'm not a big Lore/ARod fan. However, Taylor has been an absolutely terrible owner in that he has made horrible decision after horrible decision. Giving $40mil and equity to an executive seems somewhat risky to me, but good grief, can it really be any worse than letting Taylor make all the decisions? Having stable and competent leadership in this organization has been lacking for a long time. It seems many others around the league think highly of Connelly, so it seems like a risk worth taking.This is the type of competent move that Taylor could never make, and why the Wolves have been the worst franchise in sports under his ownership. This is a big win for the Wolves and Lore/ARod.
If I'm working for a cheapskate owner and another team with decent assets comes along and offers me $40M guaranteed plus a small piece of the action, then my calculation will be that I'll let them figure out their ownership issues because I've got $40M rolling in, good players on the roster, a good coach and all of my picks.If there were still big questions about the sale to Lore and ARod not going through, I don't think this move happens. It's obvious to me that they have a plan in place that all parties, including Connelly, are in agreement on.
Connelly is one of the most highly regarded execs in the league, far more than Gupta. Plus he may keep Gupta around. Good owners will hire the best possible people they can for the job. Lore/ARod have now essentially handed the keys to the franchise to Connelly, one of the best in the business.
This is the type of competent move that Taylor could never make, and why the Wolves have been the worst franchise in sports under his ownership. This is a big win for the Wolves and Lore/ARod.
If I'm working for a cheapskate owner and another team with decent assets comes along and offers me $40M guaranteed plus a small piece of the action, then my calculation will be that I'll let them figure out their ownership issues because I've got $40M rolling in, good players on the roster, a good coach and all of my picks.
Lore and ARod don't have the keys to turn over to Connelly. They don't own the team. They are limited partners. If Taylor decides to take away all of the fun perks they are enjoying and the say in decisions that are being made, he can do it.
This is actually the type of incompetent move that Taylor has historically made. Effectively turning over control of the franchise to partners who don't have a controlling interest and have no experience in professional sports management is mismanagement.
My comments are not a reflection on Connelly. By all accounts, he's very well regarded. He's very good at drafting, very good at leadership and culture, good at trading and weak on contracts. I highly doubt he's $40M better than Gupta.
The team is finally on a good path and has gained some traction. Sometimes disruption is good, especially if we are talking about the wolves. This is not one of those times.
No money changed hands with other interested parties. Even Taylor wouldn't be stupid enough to let an "interested party" hire a POBO. Maybe...Taylor has been in talks to sell the team for years to a variety of other groups. How many of those potential owners were allowed to make moves like this? Lore/ARod are only limited partners today, but by all accounts the deal to make them the majority owners will be finalized in 2023, already backed by NBA approval. You're hopecasting the deal won't go through due to your hatred for Lore/ARod, but that's not backed by reality.
No doubt about it. They'll go play at XCel for a few seasons while they rebuild at the current site.If Connelly can help improve the roster, and the Wolves become a legitimate contender, you know what comes next from the new owners:
"WE NEED A NEW ARENA!!!"
Could use some of the land/park areas by US Bank Stadium. Zygi Dome could also be used as a temporary home for the Wolves for part or all of an NBA season(s).No doubt about it. They'll go play at XCel for a few seasons while they rebuild at the current site.
If you want to stay in Minneapolis, where else would you build a new arena?
Shakopee is too remote of a location. That will never happen.Could use some of the land/park areas by US Bank Stadium. Zygi Dome could also be used as a temporary home for the Wolves for part or all of an NBA season(s).
Perhaps a long shot at best, but depending on how sports gambling plays out in Minnesota I would not dismiss the idea of an arena at Mystic Lake.
As I said, long shot.Shakopee is too remote of a location. That will never happen.
I'm not re-upping to go to Mystic Lake. I am barely hanging on to my tickets and I live eight minutes from the current location.Could use some of the land/park areas by US Bank Stadium. Zygi Dome could also be used as a temporary home for the Wolves for part or all of an NBA season(s).
Perhaps a long shot at best, but depending on how sports gambling plays out in Minnesota I would not dismiss the idea of an arena at Mystic Lake.