All Things 2022-2023 College Basketball Coach Hire/Fire Thread

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Gophs24 said:
tough break for Penn State. thought they got themselves a good one.

Hes leaving along with a very senior heavy basketball team. Will be interesting to see who they target for a replacement.
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We have a chance to get out of 14th place!
 






atsgopher said:
I don’t think so. I think most try to build a program. Meanwhile, shrews was building a resume.
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Program building is primarily about winning. What is attractive about about losing to fans, recruits, sponsors and transfers? If you can't attract fans, recruits, sponsors and transfers then how do you build a program? If Shrewsberry was still at PSU, who would you say is further along in building a program: Shrewsberry or Johnson? Shrewsberry just got his team to the round of 36; are transfers going to be more excited taking a call from Shrewsberry or Johnson? Who had the better recruiting class (hint: it isn't Johnson)?
 

Does not everyone try to excel to get more salary and promotion and if that is not forthcoming move to a different firm?
Why should coaches be different?
 



atsgopher said:
I don’t think so. I think most try to build a program. Meanwhile, shrews was building a resume.
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He got the Nits their first NCAA Tourney win in over 2 decades. Job done. Mutually beneficial.
 

Plato said:
Does not everyone try to excel to get more salary and promotion and if that is not forthcoming move to a different firm?
Why should coaches be different?
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Not everyone does. There's a lot of unhappy people at jobs and in relationships.
 

atsgopher said:
I don’t think so. I think most try to build a program. Meanwhile, shrews was building a resume.
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A problem to be sure. Who wants a guy with a strong resume?
Thank god we never have to tackle that issue.
 




Not really a coaches fired/hired comment but Utah has 5 guys enter the portal including one of their best players. Not sure what their NIL situation is there or if that’s even the reason why. I am a big fan of Craig Smith and was hoping the Gophers would hire him 2 years ago. He hasn’t been terrible at Utah but hasn’t really been close to a tournament berth there yet. It will be interesting to watch if he can get it rolling there.
 

Following the Shrewsberry situation this week and both Notre Dame and Penn State fans were talking about their schools having no NIL was limiting them. Notre Dame fans were talking about currently having 4 scholarship players and no NIL money. Penn State fans were talking about Shrewsberry being vocal about there being no NIL money at Penn State before the Notre Dame rumors even got serious. Then you have reporting this week that Penn State promised NIL (how do you do that? hmm) in their last/best offer to Shrewsberry.

If Micah did the equivalent of what he did for Penn State at Minnesota (would probably be at least a Big Ten tournament title and/or a Sweet 16 plus a couple of the best recruits since 2000), I think we'd have some NIL here. Half the board would be worried we were going to lose him to Texas and everybody would be rooting for the Longhorns to keep winning so Terry gets the job long term.
 

EG#9 said:
Following the Shrewsberry situation this week and both Notre Dame and Penn State fans were talking about their schools having no NIL was limiting them. Notre Dame fans were talking about currently having 4 scholarship players and no NIL money. Penn State fans were talking about Shrewsberry being vocal about there being no NIL money at Penn State before the Notre Dame rumors even got serious. Then you have reporting this week that Penn State promised NIL (how do you do that? hmm) in their last/best offer to Shrewsberry.

If Micah did the equivalent of what he did for Penn State at Minnesota (would probably be at least a Big Ten tournament title and/or a Sweet 16 plus a couple of the best recruits since 2000), I think we'd have some NIL here. Half the board would be worried we were going to lose him to Texas and everybody would be rooting for the Longhorns to keep winning so Terry gets the job long term.
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On the latter point, Gopher fans pushing for coaching hires with local roots isn't straight provincialism. Someone with roots here would be highly unlikely to pull a Micah. Even Micah pulling a Micah is unusual from the standpoint of Big Ten coaches bolting from the conference: it's exceedingly rare.
 


Bad Gopher said:
On the latter point, Gopher fans pushing for coaching hires with local roots isn't straight provincialism. Someone with roots here would be highly unlikely to pull a Micah. Even Micah pulling a Micah is unusual from the standpoint of Big Ten coaches bolting from the conference: it's exceedingly rare.
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I agree with this point. I'm as annoyed as anybody on this board regarding our provincialism on coaches and recruiting. But loyalty to the program from those recruits and/or coaches that chose to come here is definitely stronger if there that was part of the allure of being here. I'll grant you that point.

However, fear of losing our coach in a Shrewsberry like fashion is a loser's mentality. We should HOPE that one day we have a coach that has turned this program around enough for bigger fish to come calling. Sadly, our coaching tenures tend to end in a much different trajectory.
 









BleedGopher said:
Texas chiming in with a no-brainer decision:


Go Gophers!!
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I may be in the minority here but this guy hasn't proven anything about running a program / recruiting / all the other aspects of being a head coach.

He did a great job taking over the team and in-game coaching midseason, but there's a lot more to the job than that.

I'd be more surprised if he succeeds going forward than fails. Wouldn't be thrilled as a Texas fan.
 

skiumah1 said:
I may be in the minority here but this guy hasn't proven anything about running a program / recruiting / all the other aspects of being a head coach.

He did a great job taking over the team and in-game coaching midseason, but there's a lot more to the job than that.

I'd be more surprised if he succeeds going forward than fails. Wouldn't be thrilled as a Texas fan.
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He's been a division 1 head coach for 10 years previously....

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howeda7 said:
He's been a division 1 head coach for 10 years previously....

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Good call, but I still don't think I'd be happy if the Gophers hired a guy with that resume. Never made an NCAA tournament as a head coach. Never won his conference at any level and now you're the head coach at Texas? Whew....

Do you like that resume?

I get it, I'm against the grain here and could be wrong. But I'm out.
 

skiumah1 said:
Good call, but I still don't think I'd be happy if the Gophers hired a guy with that resume. Never made an NCAA tournament as a head coach. Never won his conference at any level and now you're the head coach at Texas? Whew....

I get it, I'm against the grain here and could be wrong. But I'm out.
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He did make an NCAA tournament with Fresno State and had a winning conference record in the Mountain West there. And outside of Jerry Tarkanian, that program has been a dumpster fire.
 

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