All Things 2021 Minnesota Vikings Off-Season Thread

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JimmyJamesMD said:
I like how you ridicule the poster for having 14 posts; meanwhile you act like your 24,936 garbage posts actually mean something
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Yeah, feel like a sucker as a new guy... everyone else knows who Stocker is by now and just let him do his thing and disregard it. My apologies to everyone who read through all that. I've learned my lesson.
 

JimmyJamesMD said:
I like how you ridicule the poster for having 14 posts; meanwhile you act like your 24,936 garbage posts actually mean something
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I'm mocking someone who joined a Gophers message board and immediately began posting anti-vaxxer stuff. Seems like GH gets a lot of posters who aren't actually fans. Just come to post far right trash.
 

stocker08 said:
I'm mocking someone who joined a Gophers message board and immediately began posting anti-vaxxer stuff. Seems like GH gets a lot of posters who aren't actually fans. Just come to post far right trash.
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So many socks.

To be fair to JJMD, I don't think he's a QAnoner. He embraces and loves all conspiracy theories equally. If it's out there, he believes.
 

stocker08 said:
I'm mocking someone who joined a Gophers message board and immediately began posting anti-vaxxer stuff. Seems like GH gets a lot of posters who aren't actually fans. Just come to post far right trash.
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They're Russian Bots sewing disinformation and division online; I watched a doc on it and they target friendly places where they can stir shit up and recruit unwitting idiots to do their bidding = CP3, LPGA, KFC and BarnSwallow. They do this by posting "corroborating" information from hot chicks tweets (online honey pots, duh!!) and BS RW "new sites" they set up - like the Arizona Journal (sound legit, right?). The above quintent are the type who think they could follow the card during a three card Monte swindle _I've seen them in person and it ain't feasible.
 

@ Dr. Nick, Spaulding at el -

Westgate pulls Packers’ odds after source says Aaron Rodgers retiring​

www.reviewjournal.com

Westgate pulls Packers’ odds after source says Aaron Rodgers retiring

Several Las Vegas sportsbooks took down the Green Bay Packers’ division odds and season win total Friday amid uncertainty about quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ future.
www.reviewjournal.com www.reviewjournal.com

The Westgate took down the Green Bay Packers’ division odds and season win total Friday after being informed by what it called “a reliable source” that quarterback Aaron Rodgers plans to retire.

BetMGM, Station Casinos and William Hill also took the NFC North odds and Green Bay’s season win total off the board. The South Point took down the Packers’ win total but left the division odds up with Green Bay still favored at +120.


Westgate sportsbook vice president Jay Kornegay said the source has proven to be reliably accurate over the years, though, he cautioned, not 100 percent.

The source said “Rodgers is going to make an announcement in the next few days that he’s going to retire,” Kornegay said. “It could turn out to be overblown, and you could see Rodgers back in Green Bay.”

Because of the source’s track record, the Westgate decided to be prudent and take the odds off the board, Kornegay said.


“I would take it not with a grain of salt, more like a chunk of salt,” he said. “… Because of the credibility of the source, we reacted accordingly.”

Rodgers won The Associated Press MVP honors last season after leading the Packers to a 13-3 record before losing to eventual Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay in the NFC championship game.


However, Rodgers has made it clear in the offseason that he wants out of Green Bay, according to multiple reports. He has skipped all offseason workouts and minicamps, and he faces fines if he does not report to training camp.

Circa Sports adjusted the Packers’ odds but left all the options up for betting. The Minnesota Vikings are now the +125 favorite to win the NFC North, followed by the Packers at +195, Chicago Bears at +335 and Detroit Lions at +1,515.


Circa also has the option to bet the Packers not to win the division at -250.

Boyd Gaming, the Golden Nugget and the Wynn still also had the division odds up, with the Packers favored at +100 to +110.

The Packers’ win total is now 8½ at Circa. Boyd Gaming still had Green Bay’s win total up at 9½ (under -150). The Golden Nugget and the Wynn have the total at 9.


Super Bowl odds remained up, though most kept the Packers at the price assuming Rodgers would be their quarterback, ranging from 15-1 to 20-1.

Circa was at 25-1, and the Westgate pushed Green Bay’s odds up to 40-1. Kornegay said that price assumed that Rodgers would not be playing for the Packers.

The Packers’ Week 1 game at the New Orleans Saints was also off the board at some sportsbooks. The Packers are consensus 3-point road underdogs at the books still taking bets on the game; Boyd is at +2½.

Rodgers remains the consensus second choice to win league MVP behind Kansas City quarterback Patrick Mahomes, with odds of 7-1 to 10-1.

Only Circa made a big adjustment in that market, moving Rodgers to 30-1.
 



GophersInIowa said:
Not all beliefs are created equal. I could have the belief that I’m an excellent driver even when I’m drunk so I can drive drunk whenever I want to. The situation here is he and many others believe they know more about all this than the experts. He’s allowed to believe that but it doesn’t mean there can’t be consequences to that belief.
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It appears Dennison and the Vikings have worked out an arrangement to continue his services in a slightly different capacity.

It's more than just a little bit disturbing how quickly and how easy it is to pass judgment on someone who could have 10+ reasons of why they may be apprehensive about getting the vaccine, absolutely NONE of which is (or should be) known to the people who want to crush this poor guy for what he believes.

What a sad state of affairs we are in. Some people today make choices and are labeled 'courageous' and things like that; others make choices and are labeled 'murderers' and 'selfish', et al. It's pretty sad how far we've devolved when you really think about it
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
It appears Dennison and the Vikings have worked out an arrangement to continue his services in a slightly different capacity.

It's more than just a little bit disturbing how quickly and how easy it is to pass judgment on someone who could have 10+ reasons of why they may be apprehensive about getting the vaccine, absolutely NONE of which is (or should be) known to the people who want to crush this poor guy for what he believes.

What a sad state of affairs we are in. Some people today make choices and are labeled 'courageous' and things like that; others make choices and are labeled 'murderers' and 'selfish', et al. It's pretty sad how far we've devolved when you really think about it
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Not sure why it’s so hard to understand that beliefs and choices are not created equal. It’s a lot different when a belief or choice affects others.

In the Covid vaccine situation, most “beliefs” are not based on reality.
 

JimmyJamesMD said:
you don't know about the pitfalls of the PCR test.
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You’re not a scientist or a doctor.

PCR has been and remains the gold standard for detection. Actual scientists and doctors agree.

Your lying about cycle counts doesn’t change anything either.
 



GophersInIowa said:
Not sure why it’s so hard to understand that beliefs and choices are not created equal. It’s a lot different when a belief or choice affects others.

In the Covid vaccine situation, most “beliefs” are not based on reality.
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Most of the beliefs are fake.

Yes, it’s a fake a belief. They don’t really believe it.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Not sure why it’s so hard to understand that beliefs and choices are not created equal. It’s a lot different when a belief or choice affects others.

In the Covid vaccine situation, most “beliefs” are not based on reality.
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Just one more time;

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHY HE DOES NOT WANT TO GET THE VACCINE.

He could have some extremely valid reasons for not wanting to do so. Just shameful, across the board. So easy for people to demand that others make the same decisions that they have done. Who are you or anyone else to tell someone what they should and should not do with their own bodies?
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Just one more time;

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHY HE DOES NOT WANT TO GET THE VACCINE.

He could have some extremely valid reasons for not wanting to do so. Just shameful, across the board. So easy for people to demand that others make the same decisions that they have done. Who are you or anyone else to tell someone what they should and should not do with their own bodies?
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He was allowed to provide a medical or religious exemption. He didn't have either. He made his choice.
 

howeda7 said:
He was allowed to provide a medical or religious exemption. He didn't have either. He made his choice.
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And that's completely fine. And we should accept the choice he made. You morons are acting like he made a choice and is unwilling to accept the consequences of his choice. He made a choice regarding the health of himself and his family and the loved ones around him, knew full well what would likely happen, and this is the choice he made.

We can disagree all we want, but the labeling and branding and personal attacks on him for that choice are f'ng ridiculous and unwarranted. There's a difference here, surely you can understand. If he was pissed about the consequences and was fighting it tooth and nail, you may have a point. But he's not. Why not just accept the choice that was made?
 



Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Just one more time;

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHY HE DOES NOT WANT TO GET THE VACCINE.

He could have some extremely valid reasons for not wanting to do so. Just shameful, across the board. So easy for people to demand that others make the same decisions that they have done. Who are you or anyone else to tell someone what they should and should not do with their own bodies?
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Yeah, it's crazy. That's the point I was trying to make... the tolerance level of society against any varying viewpoint.

In that span, I was labeled an idiot (debatable haha), an anti vaxxer (I'm vaccinated), and suggested not a Gopher fan (flying up from Phoenix, for the OH game and flying into Denver for CU game). It's absolutely wild to see.
 


Gopher_In_NYC said:
www.reviewjournal.com

Westgate pulls Packers’ odds after source says Aaron Rodgers retiring

Several Las Vegas sportsbooks took down the Green Bay Packers’ division odds and season win total Friday amid uncertainty about quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ future.
www.reviewjournal.com www.reviewjournal.com

The Westgate took down the Green Bay Packers’ division odds and season win total Friday after being informed by what it called “a reliable source” that quarterback Aaron Rodgers plans to retire.

BetMGM, Station Casinos and William Hill also took the NFC North odds and Green Bay’s season win total off the board. The South Point took down the Packers’ win total but left the division odds up with Green Bay still favored at +120.


Westgate sportsbook vice president Jay Kornegay said the source has proven to be reliably accurate over the years, though, he cautioned, not 100 percent.

The source said “Rodgers is going to make an announcement in the next few days that he’s going to retire,” Kornegay said. “It could turn out to be overblown, and you could see Rodgers back in Green Bay.”

Because of the source’s track record, the Westgate decided to be prudent and take the odds off the board, Kornegay said.


“I would take it not with a grain of salt, more like a chunk of salt,” he said. “… Because of the credibility of the source, we reacted accordingly.”

Rodgers won The Associated Press MVP honors last season after leading the Packers to a 13-3 record before losing to eventual Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay in the NFC championship game.


However, Rodgers has made it clear in the offseason that he wants out of Green Bay, according to multiple reports. He has skipped all offseason workouts and minicamps, and he faces fines if he does not report to training camp.

Circa Sports adjusted the Packers’ odds but left all the options up for betting. The Minnesota Vikings are now the +125 favorite to win the NFC North, followed by the Packers at +195, Chicago Bears at +335 and Detroit Lions at +1,515.


Circa also has the option to bet the Packers not to win the division at -250.

Boyd Gaming, the Golden Nugget and the Wynn still also had the division odds up, with the Packers favored at +100 to +110.

The Packers’ win total is now 8½ at Circa. Boyd Gaming still had Green Bay’s win total up at 9½ (under -150). The Golden Nugget and the Wynn have the total at 9.


Super Bowl odds remained up, though most kept the Packers at the price assuming Rodgers would be their quarterback, ranging from 15-1 to 20-1.

Circa was at 25-1, and the Westgate pushed Green Bay’s odds up to 40
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Gopher_In_NYC said:
@ Dr. Nick, Spaulding at el -

Westgate pulls Packers’ odds after source says Aaron Rodgers retiring​

www.reviewjournal.com

Westgate pulls Packers’ odds after source says Aaron Rodgers retiring

Several Las Vegas sportsbooks took down the Green Bay Packers’ division odds and season win total Friday amid uncertainty about quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ future.
www.reviewjournal.com www.reviewjournal.com

The Westgate took down the Green Bay Packers’ division odds and season win total Friday after being informed by what it called “a reliable source” that quarterback Aaron Rodgers plans to retire.

BetMGM, Station Casinos and William Hill also took the NFC North odds and Green Bay’s season win total off the board. The South Point took down the Packers’ win total but left the division odds up with Green Bay still favored at +120.


Westgate sportsbook vice president Jay Kornegay said the source has proven to be reliably accurate over the years, though, he cautioned, not 100 percent.

The source said “Rodgers is going to make an announcement in the next few days that he’s going to retire,” Kornegay said. “It could turn out to be overblown, and you could see Rodgers back in Green Bay.”

Because of the source’s track record, the Westgate decided to be prudent and take the odds off the board, Kornegay said.


“I would take it not with a grain of salt, more like a chunk of salt,” he said. “… Because of the credibility of the source, we reacted accordingly.”

Rodgers won The Associated Press MVP honors last season after leading the Packers to a 13-3 record before losing to eventual Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay in the NFC championship game.


However, Rodgers has made it clear in the offseason that he wants out of Green Bay, according to multiple reports. He has skipped all offseason workouts and minicamps, and he faces fines if he does not report to training camp.

Circa Sports adjusted the Packers’ odds but left all the options up for betting. The Minnesota Vikings are now the +125 favorite to win the NFC North, followed by the Packers at +195, Chicago Bears at +335 and Detroit Lions at +1,515.


Circa also has the option to bet the Packers not to win the division at -250.

Boyd Gaming, the Golden Nugget and the Wynn still also had the division odds up, with the Packers favored at +100 to +110.

The Packers’ win total is now 8½ at Circa. Boyd Gaming still had Green Bay’s win total up at 9½ (under -150). The Golden Nugget and the Wynn have the total at 9.


Super Bowl odds remained up, though most kept the Packers at the price assuming Rodgers would be their quarterback, ranging from 15-1 to 20-1.

Circa was at 25-1, and the Westgate pushed Green Bay’s odds up to 40-1. Kornegay said that price assumed that Rodgers would not be playing for the Packers.

The Packers’ Week 1 game at the New Orleans Saints was also off the board at some sportsbooks. The Packers are consensus 3-point road underdogs at the books still taking bets on the game; Boyd is at +2½.

Rodgers remains the consensus second choice to win league MVP behind Kansas City quarterback Patrick Mahomes, with odds of 7-1 to 10-1.

Only Circa made a big adjustment in that market, moving Rodgers to 30-1.
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He showed up to camp today. People keep takin the nfl bait.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Just one more time;

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHY HE DOES NOT WANT TO GET THE VACCINE.

He could have some extremely valid reasons for not wanting to do so. Just shameful, across the board. So easy for people to demand that others make the same decisions that they have done. Who are you or anyone else to tell someone what they should and should not do with their own bodies?
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I never said anything about him specifically. Some people do have a medical reason for not getting it. If his reasoning was due to a medical condition, this wouldn’t have never been an issue. There really aren’t a whole lot of other reasons for not getting it that are based on reality.

Why do you think people’s beliefs can’t be criticized? I think myself and everyone can be critical of decisions that could affect my children, my family and anyone else.
 

GophersInIowa said:
There really aren’t a whole lot of other reasons for not getting it that are based on reality.
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That's not your decision to make; never has been and with any luck at all, it never will be. What's wrong with just saying you disagree with him and letting it go?

We're fast approaching a reality on our society where the left is not simply satisfied with merely disagreeing with someone. Opposing beliefs will not be tolerated, they will be beaten down and shouted down and ridiculed and castigated. What a great country, the founders would be proud
 


Ogee Oglethorpe said:
That's not your decision to make; never has been and with any luck at all, it never will be. What's wrong with just saying you disagree with him and letting it go?
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That’s pretty much what I did do. Then you stated it was disturbing to criticize him. Almost all of my comments here have been about that.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
And that's completely fine. And we should accept the choice he made. You morons are acting like he made a choice and is unwilling to accept the consequences of his choice. He made a choice regarding the health of himself and his family and the loved ones around him, knew full well what would likely happen, and this is the choice he made.

We can disagree all we want, but the labeling and branding and personal attacks on him for that choice are f'ng ridiculous and unwarranted. There's a difference here, surely you can understand. If he was pissed about the consequences and was fighting it tooth and nail, you may have a point. But he's not. Why not just accept the choice that was made?
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People in the public eye are criticized on a daily basis for their choices. I'm not voting to flog the guy....but he's going to take heat if he chooses to sit out the season because he's afraid of the vaccine. I realize that he is taking a right wing stance on this....so you are hoping on the defense....but cry me a fucking river. He's a big boy and can handle it. Doesn't need you to send him a water bottle of LV tears so that he knows that you're sharing in his pain.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
That's not your decision to make; never has been and with any luck at all, it never will be. What's wrong with just saying you disagree with him and letting it go?
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We are in the pandemic together. His choices or beliefs have the potential to affect others. So people are gunna let him know.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
That's not your decision to make; never has been and with any luck at all, it never will be. What's wrong with just saying you disagree with him and letting it go?

We're fast approaching a reality on our society where the left is not simply satisfied with merely disagreeing with someone. Opposing beliefs will not be tolerated, they will be beaten down and shouted down and ridiculed and castigated. What a great country, the founders would be proud
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See the problem here is that wanting people to get vaccinated is a stance of "the left". Everyone should be encouraging and taking the vaccine, left, right or center.

I'm hardly a lefty but it's clear which side of the aisle is leading the race to the bottom on all things COVID related.
 

Gophers1992 said:
See the problem here is that wanting people to get vaccinated is a stance of "the left".
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Yep.

As soon as the "non left" see "the left" support something, they treat it like cancer, no matter what. No matter any reasoning or justifications.
 

On the Dennison matter - the Vikes and Dennison worked out a deal where Dennison can be an advisor/analyst - but he cannot have any direct contact with players. Basically, he can be a sounding board for the coaches and offer advice, but he can't be on the field for practices and games.

The big question is whether this has any effect on how the O-Line plays. if the O-line struggles to begin the season, you can bet that people will blame Dennison and say "if he had gotten vaccinated, the Vikes' O-line wouldn't be this bad."

On the other hand, if the O-line plays well under the new coach, people will say it was a good thing that Dennison didn't want to be vaccinated.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I never said anything about him specifically. Some people do have a medical reason for not getting it. If his reasoning was due to a medical condition, this wouldn’t have never been an issue. There really aren’t a whole lot of other reasons for not getting it that are based on reality.

Why do you think people’s beliefs can’t be criticized? I think myself and everyone can be critical of decisions that could affect my children, my family and anyone else.
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Because if you are critical or critiquing the country, then you are Anti-American and if you do that to a player or team then you aren't a true fan; however, it's okay when they are the one doing the criticizing and critiquing, as only their are valid.

It's the ultimate in snowflake circle-jerk logic.
 

Well, at least we now have the Vikings In-Season thread that hasn't been derailed yet. With any luck this one will die a quick and merciful death?
 



Honestly... Might be a good thing. Seemed inevitable. Get it out of the way.

 

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