All four playoff winners were on home field

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I like the first round games to be homefield advantage. give teams incentive to do more than try to sneak in to the top 12. You really want a top 8 seed.
 

Ope3 said:
I think they will eliminate 2 of the Byes by going with a 14 Team Field.
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I think they’ll go
1-2 seeds locked for SEC and Big Champ

Of 14 bids:
4 locked big ten (1 is a top 2 seed)
4 locked SEC
1 locked ACC
1 locked Big 12
1 locked conference champ
3 at larges
 

I'd go opposite: quarterfinals should be at campus sites.
Semis: Rose Bowl & Sugar Bowl FOREVER. Sorry Orange Bowl; you chose to knock down your stadium & moved the event to Joe Robbie/Pro Player/Hard Rock. If the Rose Bowl ever gets knocked down & they move it to SoFi, I'd say the same thing. You lose.
Championship: Rotating site between Miami/Phoenix/Atl;anta/Dallas. Houston/Indianapolis, or even Minneapolis can get in on it 1 every 5 years.

This moves the schedule up a week, semis on 1/1 & championship 2 Monday's later.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
I watched all four games this weekend and the games were electrifying being on campus. Win all the way around for college football.

Blowouts happen. Guess what the average margin over victory in the FCS round of 8 was 32points.

D3 semi finals were 39
D2 semi finals were 12

People will say we should just go back to 4 but that is not inclusive. 12 works and my only gripe is the unbalanced scheduling and the automatic bids needing to be tweaked.

Anything at allows the top 4-6 in the conference to play a game to get in would be best.
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I was going to use this data to suggest that 12 is simply too playoff teams and that we'll find that there is quite a lot of separation between the top 4 teams in CFB and 5-10. I think the likelihood of a Cinderella in the CFP is very low to almost certain not to happen. 8 is probably too many teams. From a competitive standpoint, take the top 6. Top 2 get a bye. 3-6 play a quarterfinal/wildcard game. But with super conferences now a thing, there's no going back.
 


eastsider said:
I’d go one step further and say lock it in as the national championship game on Jan 1.

Either move the start of the season up or eliminate the conference championship games.

- 16 seed tourney
- First round the weekend after Thanksgiving weekend (12/6-12/7 this year) at top seeded team’s site
- Second round the following weekend at top seeded team’s site (12/13-12/14 this year)
- Third round the following weekend at top seeded team’s site (12/20-12/21 this year)
- Weekend off over Christmas for rest and for fans to organize travel to Pasadena
- National championship game on 1/1 in Pasadena, CA

Army/Navy can move up to Thanksgiving weekend.

Call it the NCAA tournament. Get rid of the college football playoff branding nonsense.

Other bowls can continue to exist and invite teams outside the top 16 but they’ll probably wither away over time. Too bad so sad. My preference was always to keep the old conferences and bowl system in tact but if we’re going to have a tournament, might as well go all in.

Playing the first three rounds at a home site rewards the teams who did best in the regular season.

Just wrap things up on Jan 1 because most people’s interest wanes after that point. And doing it at the Rose Bowl every year gives every team in the country a symbolic destination to dream of getting to all season.
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I'm as big of a traditionalist as they come but the bowls are meaningless and the bowl system is dead. I see no reason to continue to pander to chambers of commerce in sunny locations.
 

swede2 said:
I'm as big of a traditionalist as they come but the bowls are meaningless and the bowl system is dead. I see no reason to continue to pander to chambers of commerce in sunny locations.
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It's cheap content for ESPN and they really do get great ratings over the holidays. People like them.
 

swede2 said:
I was going to use this data to suggest that 12 is simply too playoff teams and that we'll find that there is quite a lot of separation between the top 4 teams in CFB and 5-10. I think the likelihood of a Cinderella in the CFP is very low to almost certain not to happen. 8 is probably too many teams. From a competitive standpoint, take the top 6. Top 2 get a bye. 3-6 play a quarterfinal/wildcard game. But with super conferences now a thing, there's no going back.
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I want a way to get playoff play and lose the committee altogether.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
my gut says the only thing that changes is that they eliminate the byes for the top 4 conference champions. the big 4 conf champs and best G5 conf champ still get auto qualifiers, but once the field is set, seed it from 1-12.

the best 4 teams get the byes and home games in 1st round.

that eliminates the wonky scheduling where #1 overall seed Oregon has much tougher bracket than Penn State.
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They could still give the 4 conference champions a bye, but then re-seed after the first round to have a more balanced 8 team bracket.
 





disco said:
It's cheap content for ESPN and they really do get great ratings over the holidays. People like them.
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I don't mind the bowls in general. I should have been more clear - there does not need to be any connection between CFP and any bowl games/organization.
 




If conference championship week is eliminated (makes less sense now), the tournament could start earlier.

Agree that they should move Army/Navy to Veterans Day or another day when it is the only game being played. I think the academies realize that being the only high-profile game on network television is a bonus. Maybe the NFL should just play all their games on Sunday during the week on which Veterans Day hits and give Army/Navy the Monday night slot. The cadets can break curfew at least one night a year without remonstrance.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
I want a way to get playoff play and lose the committee altogether.
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Ideally there would be a major realignment and other changes to promote parity and regional representation but until then, I think there will be less then compelling games before the semifinals.
 

Ope3 said:
I agree, but I don't think that would ever happen. As it is the NY6 get either a Quarter or Semi Final. An extra Home round cuts those in half.

I don't know that college campuses would be keen on having to open up during the middle of Winter Break. Likely would have to have 2 rounds prior to Christmas.

As it is, we get a NYD Tripleheader bonanza (with a NYE Appetizer). That should be a blast.
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Wasn't the first round like a week after most schools had finals week?
 

50PoundHead said:
If conference championship week is eliminated (makes less sense now), the tournament could start earlier.

Agree that they should move Army/Navy to Veterans Day or another day when it is the only game being played. I think the academies realize that being the only high-profile game on network television is a bonus. Maybe the NFL should just play all their games on Sunday during the week on which Veterans Day hits and give Army/Navy the Monday night slot. The cadets can break curfew at least one night a year without remonstrance.
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I love that it is the last regular season game.
 


PMWinSTP said:
Wasn't the first round like a week after most schools had finals week?
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Possibly. Still it's a different task, keeping whatever needs to be open for infrastructure/dorms for a few extra days after finals before Christmas as opposed to after the holiday and potentially a few weeks before 2nd Semester starts.

I would guess a moot point for Texas/Austin.
 

The first round ended up being basically irrelevant.

It could have just been an 8-team playoff bracket, starting with quarter-finals at the four major bowl games. It's seeds 1 through 8 and they're slotted exactly how they would be.


Maybe that's what it always should be?
 


GopherGrit said:
The first round ended up being basically irrelevant.

It could have just been an 8-team playoff bracket, starting with quarter-finals at the four major bowl games. It's seeds 1 through 8 and they're slotted exactly how they would be.


Maybe that's what it always should be?
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in a way, this whole thing is a cop-out by the CFP - but I understand why they did it.

with a 4-team playoff, there were multiple teams - and their fan bases - screaming bloody murder that "they were not given a chance" to compete for a national title.

so the CFP said "fine, you want more teams in the playoffs - we'll give you more teams. Now STFU."

there were years when the #5 or #6 team in the CFP standings might have been a legitimate contender.

with the new system, as you say, it's difficult to imagine a scenario where the #13 team or below has a legitimate case that it belonged.

there will still be complaining (cough....Lane Kiffen....cough) - but for the most part, I think there will be a better sense after the playoffs that the system produced a worthy champion.
 

PMWinSTP said:
I mean, don't they have conference championships in basketball?
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And they mean basically zip, include the entire Conference even teams that stunk during the regular season (except 3 teams going forward in the Big 10) as well as being a completely different animal as far as injury risk and prospects to impact on the NCAA Tournament.

If there are no Byes for the CFP at stake and both teams are going to get in regardless, I guarantee there is going to be a whole lot of Load Management going on for what amounts to an exhibition.

It's an extra needless game.
 
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GopherWeatherGuy said:
These games could have been played in Antarctica and it wouldn't have mattered.

Seeds 9-12 don't deserve to be in a championship playoff, ever. They will never make a run. There is a max of 6 teams who can win it each year, and that's stretching it.
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This year the four bottom seeds didn't make any of the games interesting, but that doesn't mean they can't in future years. Maybe winning the whole thing might be out of reach, but winning 1, 2 or 3 games just might happen next year.
I don't think 12 is a bad number to stay at. Move the Quarterfinals to campus sites as well.
Get rid of 1 of the two in season bye weeks then you could leave everything as is (a week earlier) and have the semi-finals be on New Years Day. Play the NC game at least 1 week after on the Monday night.
 

GFBfan said:
This year the four bottom seeds didn't make any of the games interesting, but that doesn't mean they can't in future years. Maybe winning the whole thing might be out of reach, but winning 1, 2 or 3 games just might happen next year.
I don't think 12 is a bad number to stay at. Move the Quarterfinals to campus sites as well.
Get rid of 1 of the two in season bye weeks then you could leave everything as is (a week earlier) and have the semi-finals be on New Years Day. Play the NC game at least 1 week after on the Monday night.
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The 2 "in season bye weeks" does not happen every year. It happens the few years when Labor Day is early and Thanksgiving is late. The extra Saturday on the Calendar is what drives it.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
These games could have been played in Antarctica and it wouldn't have mattered.

Seeds 9-12 don't deserve to be in a championship playoff, ever. They will never make a run. There is a max of 6 teams who can win it each year, and that's stretching it.
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To me, seed 8 is one of the more likely teams to win it.
And being they were Tennessee not losing to godawful Arkansas away from being 9

You may be right though
 


GopherWeatherGuy said:
These games could have been played in Antarctica and it wouldn't have mattered.

Seeds 9-12 don't deserve to be in a championship playoff, ever. They will never make a run. There is a max of 6 teams who can win it each year, and that's stretching it.
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Yup, the home teams earned those games. They were blowouts because barring some individual heroic guy running for 250 yards or a QB/WR duo putting up 400 yards they are not winning...like GWG said...only 4 to 6 teams can realistically win it each year.
12 is good...chance for Cinderella. We don't need more games for the top seeds. We don't need more teams...it ain't basketball.
But we do need better seeding...Ohio St is the 8 seed ....they lost to the 1 seed by one point at their place in the regular season.
 


MonikerSchmoniker45 said:
Doesn't matter where the games are played. Twelve teams is too many. Should be 6-8.

Just to throw out an idea...Structure the regular season to end in a conference tournament.

Tier the bowl games like they always have, but provide substantial payouts to the winning players to provide incentive to play. I think most of the new age players care more about money than a Natty anyways.
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So you want teams to back and play more meaningless bowl games instead of 1st round playoff games? Totally illogical. This is best thing that ever happened to cfb. They should actually go to 16 teams so everyone plays in 1st round and can host a game.

In 5 yrs ppl will look back and see that hosting a cfp game will be an amazing part of the experience.
 

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