All about Max Brosmer Making the Cut

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matt said:
@gopherbadgerman is not worth arguing with. He likes to act like he’s smarter and more impartial than everyone on the board and is too proud to admit when he’s wrong (despite claiming that he admits when he’s wrong). Let him claim that Max came in “good” last year, despite that fact that this is the guy who started a thread mid game last year titled “Brosmer is not a stud” to shit on Max, claim that TD throws by Max were all thanks to the WR, and agree with folks that said Brosmer was a failure.

Just pat him on the head and let him think he was right all along and is smarter than everyone here.
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Anyone with the word "badger" in their moniker has severe issues anyway. The rest is gravy.
 

gopherbadgerman said:
I thought he’d be a middle 1/3 QB. He was slightly better than that.
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Yes, you were wrong. Brosmer was without question was one of the 6 best QB's in the 18-team Big 10. And that makes him one of the best QB's the Gophers have had in a very long time. I could be wrong but if he starts the season on the Viking 53-man roster I believe his QB career will exceed the NFL QB career of every other Gopher QB in history.
 

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Go4Broke said:
Yes, you were wrong. Brosmer was without question was one of the 6 best QB's in the 18-team Big 10. And that makes him one of the best QB's the Gophers have had in a very long time. I could be wrong but if he starts the season on the Viking 53-man roster I believe his QB career will exceed the NFL QB career of every other Gopher QB in history.
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Totally agree he was the best QB’s the gophers have had. No argument there. He was top 6 in most passing categories too except rating which he was 7th.

It’s a pretty good argument he was a top 6qb in the big ten last year. Like I said he ended up better than I thought he would be, and it appears he’s gotten even better the last 6-8 months too.
 

gopherbadgerman said:
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Totally agree he was the best QB’s the gophers have had. No argument there. He was top 6 in most passing categories too except rating which he was 7th.

It’s a pretty good argument he was a top 6qb in the big ten last year. Like I said he ended up better than I thought he would be, and it appears he’s gotten even better the last 6-8 months too.
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He's gotten better since around February, then.
 




gopherbadgerman said:
Yes. He was better in February than he was in September, and better now than he was in February. Is that plausible to you?
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It's certainly plausible.

I'm curious, though. Have you seen Brosmer practice, work out, and/or play much since February?

If so, in what specific areas have you seen the most dramatic improvement?
 

How has Vikings rookie Max Brosmer gone from undrafted free agent to potential No. 2 QB?​

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6565396/2025/08/21/max-brosmer-minnesota-vikings-new-hampshire/

They swear they’re not saying this in hindsight. Max Brosmer? Those who have witnessed his journey, from Atlanta to Minnesota by way of New Hampshire, knew.

Not necessarily that he could push to be a backup for the Minnesota Vikings as a rookie. But that he has what you need to play for a long time in the NFL.

“Some teams were, like, ‘We don’t have a draftable grade on him,'” said Brosmer’s longtime quarterback trainer, Quincy Avery. “I’m, like, ‘Are you guys crazy? What are you watching? What are we even looking at?'”

It wasn’t for a lack of trying, either. Brosmer’s quarterbacks coach at New Hampshire, Drew Belcher, implored the NFL staffers he knew to take a look. Eric Galko, the director of the East-West Shrine Bowl, invoked the name Brock Purdy as a comparison. P.J. Fleck, Brosmer’s head coach at Minnesota, described him as one of the most mentally capable players and people he’d been around.

Still, nothing. Seven rounds, 257 picks, 13 quarterbacks, none of them Brosmer.

Going undrafted motivated the 24-year-old. It infuriated the people around him. The Vikings eventually offered him a shot as an undrafted free agent, and it took only a few months before coach Kevin O’Connell started to sound like all of his former coaches and observers: “Max is as smart as any young player that I’ve been around.”

It’d be one thing if Brosmer’s sharpness didn’t translate to the field. But it has. He has held his own alongside J.J. McCarthy, Sam Howell and Brett Rypien in practice. He has moved the football effectively in preseason games. All of this is why one longtime NFL scout admitted that hindsight may not have been necessary.

How could 32 teams have possibly missed on Max Brosmer? “It’s actually a great question,” the scout texted.

Last week, Harbaugh wondered aloud: What if Brosmer hadn’t made the jump last year? What if Brosmer had attempted to go directly from New Hampshire to the NFL? Would he have had the requisite time for trial and error the way he did at Minnesota? And, perhaps most interestingly, how many young quarterbacks working actively to refine their timing get weeded out before things click?
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There are plenty of other layers to Brosmer’s early success. O’Connell’s complex system can be a burden, but Brosmer comes from a place that asked him to command 63 pre-snap alerts in last year’s matchup with Penn State. He releases the ball quickly. He is the type of guy who answered a FaceTime call from Golden Gophers offensive line coach Brian Callahan last week and explained a protection scheme while watching film of the New England Patriots. Review practice clips, and you’ll see Brosmer standing among the pack of quarterbacks, looking as if he’s conducting an imaginary play by himself.

How does Brian Flores’ defense compare to the college game?

“I feel like the jump between Minnesota and the NFL is smaller,” he said.
 




RememberMurray said:
It's certainly plausible.

I'm curious, though. Have you seen Brosmer practice, work out, and/or play much since February?

If so, in what specific areas have you seen the most dramatic improvement?
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Not practice Only watched him play in games.

He sure looked better at the end of last year than the beginning, and looks better with the Vikings than he did at the end of last year.

His laser down the left sideline and the perfect deep throw would be two examples.

Do you think he is better now than a year ago?
 

gopherbadgerman said:
Not practice Only watched him play in games.

He sure looked better at the end of last year than the beginning, and looks better with the Vikings than he did at the end of last year.

His laser down the left sideline and the perfect deep throw would be two examples.

Do you think he is better now than a year ago?
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I think playing at Minnesota helped enormously in Brosmer's development. If nothing else, it gave him the opportunity to show what he could do against big time players, in big game situations, on a national stage. He never had that at New Hampshire.

I also think that many, many people were skeptical that a QB from a tiny college in New Hampshire could play at a B1G level, and now many of those same people are skeptical again, hinting that Max can never be more than just a clipboard holder in the NFL. There's a real pattern with these folks... lots of conventional thinking. A severe lack of vision for anything beyond the obvious.

Fleck took an approach that was the polar opposite of that. He saw something in Brosmer that many, many, many others did not. And I think Brosmer was and is grateful for that.

Now, it seems that some of the same people who back in September were saying that bringing Brosmer here was a Hail Mary and a show of desperation with little chance of success are trying to claim they saw it coming all along and were on the bandwagon from the jump.

Ah, well... human nature, I suppose.
 

RememberMurray said:
I think playing at Minnesota helped enormously in Brosmer's development. If nothing else, it gave him the opportunity to show what he could do against big time players, in big game situations, on a national stage.

I also think that many, many people were skeptical that a QB from a tiny college in New Hampshire could play at a B1G level, and now many of those same people are skeptical again, hinting that Max can never be more than just a clipboard holder in the NFL. There's a real pattern with these folks... lots of conventional thinking. Lack of vision.

I also believe that Fleck was the polar opposite of that. He saw something in Brosmer that many, many, many others did not. And I think Brosmer was and is grateful for that.

Now, it seems that some of the people who back in September were saying that bringing Brosmer here was a Hail Mary and a show of desperation with little chance of success are trying to claim they were on the bandwagon from the jump.

Ah, well... human nature, I suppose.
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The way he’s improving I could see him having a long NFL career.

I never thought he was a Hail Mary. I thought he’d be a middle level B10 QB, and he was better than that.

I think it’s possible he just keeps getting better and better. PJ obviously had something to do with it, I think most likely a lot of people did, mainly Max.
 





RememberMurray said:
Don't you want to know more about the improvement that gopherbadgerman saw in Brosmer's game? I do!
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Really getting tired of the pissing contest between you two. I think I speak for most everybody, that we don't care at this point. I keep wasting minutes in my life reading the dribble hoping there might be something new or incitefull.
 

TNGophfan said:
Really getting tired of the pissing contest between you two. I think I speak for most everybody, that we don't care at this point. I keep wasting minutes in my life reading the dribble hoping there might be something new or incitefull.
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Don't read it, then. You have that option. But thanks for speaking for most everybody.
 


TNGophfan said:
Well, unless I block you, which i don't want to as you usually have good content, I'm stuck with it.
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I'm sorry, but that's not your only option as I said. Still, your choice.

What is it about this particular content that is distressing you?
 


TNGophfan said:
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Just same arguments back and forth. No progress. You guys should agree to disagree.
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That's not a bad take, I guess.

A word to the wise, though: arguments do happen on chat boards. Pretty frequently. If it makes you uncomfortable, maybe try a different thread. Or start one.
 

RememberMurray said:
That's not a bad take, I guess.

A word to the wise, though: arguments do happen on chat boards. Pretty frequently.
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Agreed. No problem with that. At some point, for everyone's sake, call it a stalemate.

Anyway, back to your regular scheduled programming. I'm out for the night.
 


How could 32 teams have possibly missed on Max Brosmer? “It’s actually a great question,” the scout texted.

Simple:

1) They all consult the same scouting services and

2) human nature: most people are naturally risk averse and don't want to be the only person who takes a leap of faith on an unheralded player who others don't seem to want. If you take a chance on an unheralded recruit and he bombs, you look like a fool. On the other hand, if you miss on an unheralded player who turns out to be good, well, you were just like almost everyone else.

Last week, Harbaugh wondered aloud: What if Brosmer hadn’t made the jump last year? What if Brosmer had attempted to go directly from New Hampshire to the NFL? Would he have had the requisite time for trial and error the way he did at Minnesota?

Probably not. I'm really glad Max came here. It worked out well for us and seems to be working out well for him. It's interesting that Iowa (never a big portal team) went the FCS route for their new QB this season too. I'd like to think that Max's transfer experience had something to do with that.
 

TwistingMyMelon said:
How could 32 teams have possibly missed on Max Brosmer? “It’s actually a great question,” the scout texted.

Simple:

1) They all consult the same scouting services and

2) human nature: most people are naturally risk averse and don't want to be the only person who takes a leap of faith on an unheralded player who others don't seem to want. If you take a chance on an unheralded recruit and he bombs, you look like a fool. On the other hand, if you miss on an unheralded player who turns out to be good, well, you were just like almost everyone else.

Last week, Harbaugh wondered aloud: What if Brosmer hadn’t made the jump last year? What if Brosmer had attempted to go directly from New Hampshire to the NFL? Would he have had the requisite time for trial and error the way he did at Minnesota?

Probably not. I'm really glad Max came here. It worked out well for us and seems to be working out well for him. It's interesting that Iowa (never a big portal team) went the FCS route for their new QB this season too. I'd like to think that Max's transfer experience had something to do with that.
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Yes!

Also, Max doesn't have The Measurables. I can't help but think that the NFL and the football establishment love The Measurables because it allows them to simply plug and play, without sticking their necks out. Just enter The Measurables, and let the system spit out a pass/fail grade. No risk, no worry.
 

RememberMurray said:
Yeah. In the future, just let us know when you (and, by extension I guess, everyone) is/are becoming uncomfortable.
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I don’t even think we’re arguing.

in a lot of ways we’re saying the same things with a different slant and you were just questioning everything I say with a bit of a sarcastic tone. (My opinion)…plus you think I’m a turd 😉
 



All I saw last year was it took into the 4th contest for the game to slow down for Max. The jump in what defenses can throw at you in speed, talent, and schemes was just more than he'd seen. On the Gophers' side it was the personnel around him, the play calling, and the intangibles that were also all in play along with his own skills. To his credit it came together and we got what we got last year.

Just like seeing Eslinger get to the HOF was very satisfying, it will likely be similar as we get to watch Max be Max from here on out. I'm glad we had him for the year of eligibility because credit to the coaching staff we did not have any other in-house answer yet last year.

BTW, this is just more evidence that Coach Fleck's very early and strategic embrace of the Portal and what it can offer to a middle-of-the-conference developmental program is exactly what Minnesota needs to be competitive. Apparently the NIL is enough to keep us in the game too against the high rollers. Throw in being able to keep Minnesota's best home too ends up being a nice recipe in the "modern age" that will last just long enough until it changes again. Let's just enjoy this phase as long as it lasts. Hopefully the HC is already anticipating the next evolution.

Back to Brosmer, he's a great local story for us but he originated from the heart of the SEC. That he ended up in New Hampshire should be a wake-up call for the southern coaching staffs as possibly a good one that got away. Fun, fun, fun. Ski U Mah.
 

So I guess we’ll know in about 12 hrs or so. I feel like every year we have these bubble discussions. Max has a lot going for him, but I never profess to know what’s in the minds of coaches. It’s entertaining which is why we’re all here.
 

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