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This post was from elum07 at the Fighton247 Board: http://usc.247sports.com/Board/29/Contents/Alabamas-Recruiting-Dominance-Continues-Wow-50860219

Alabama's Recruiting Dominance Continues (Wow)

As recruiting wraps up for the class 2017, I think it's appropriate to take a moment and recognize the incredible run that Alabama's on right now. This year will mark the unprecedented 7th straight year in which Alabama will finish with the #1 recruiting class in the nation (based on 247 composite). It's just a testament to the hard work of the coaching staff, fans, and boosters to keep the program running at such a high level both on and off the field.

It's crazy that elite recruits are consistently willing to sign with Alabama even at positions of extreme depth, knowing they will likely have to sit for a few years before playing. It's even crazier that so many high-round draft eligible juniors return to play their senior years (e.g. Ryan Anderson, OJ Howard, Jonathan Allen, Reuben Foster, Tim Williams, Eddie Jackson), forgoing the potential of earning millions of dollars for the opportunity to play one more year for free (as well as receive a coveted degree from the University, ranked as the 103rd (tie) best university in the country by US News & World Report's 2017 rankings).

These guys are just doing things the right way, and you have to commend them for it (although it is a tad ironic that their inability to recruit a QB likely cost them the national championship this year).

Anyway, as an homage to Alabama's recruiting prowess over the past few years, here's a photo recap of some of the athletes that have propelled them to the #1 ranking. (Sourced as of 1/27/17 from the public Instagram accounts of 2016 rostered players only):

Jonathan Allen – DL #93
https://www.instagram.com/p/pU69K6mvHB/?taken-by=jonallen93


Anthony Averett Jr – DB #28
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNUmNIYjbAR/?taken-by=antaverettjr_


Shyheim Carter – DB #5
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOcs6_Gjhr_/?taken-by=s.carter5
https://www.instagram.com/p/wpAevhFsbS/?taken-by=s.carter5



David Cornwell – QB #12
https://www.instagram.com/p/oyp-67ze5r/?taken-by=davidcornwell12


BJ Emmons – RB #21
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHsGYoFDEFB/?taken-by=ill_mindedemmons


Rashaan Evans – LB #32
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPvULEuA_1U/?taken-by=l3g2nd


DaShawn Hand – DL #9
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFKoRPCkdww/?taken-by=dhand_9


Ronnie Harrison – DB #15
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPq0ey9jaD2/?taken-by=ronniej15
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLrxYJnDj22/?taken-by=ronniej15



Eddie Jackson – DB #4
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKyUBrpA_jy/?taken-by=ejackson_4
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHs6_ukArJI/?taken-by=ejackson_4
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHc6PT_AptL/?taken-by=ejackson_4




Anfernee Jennings – LB #33
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBu3plBsjPE/?taken-by=anferneej33


Shawn Jennings – LB #19
https://www.instagram.com/p/BI_kG0yBWbj/?taken-by=yung_jefe_19


Nigel Knott – DB #13
Link: https://www.instagram.com/p/BH-VovYhWCT/?taken-by=nigelknott_xiii


Alec Morris – QB #11
https://www.instagram.com/p/2eUJg2B_Hp/?taken-by=alecmorris_5


Da’Ron Payne – DL #94
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMZHJyRD1_r/?taken-by=94yne


Jacob Probasco – OL #61
https://www.instagram.com/p/257FREsjch/?taken-by=njredneck17


Calvin Ridley – WR #3
https://www.instagram.com/p/BA3IajoB3Gi/?taken-by=justdoit_cb3


Bo Scarbrough – RB #9
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPlGfdiDr6M/?taken-by=5tarbo


Deionte Thompson – DB #14
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOf6TQDBibb/?taken-by=hollyw23d
https://www.instagram.com/p/4aMirllX85/?taken-by=hollyw23d



Dallas Warmack – OL #59
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPPO52rhXOa/?taken-by=dallaswarmack59


Mack Wilson – LB #30
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPqTIZeBh1r/?taken-by=iam__mw3o


I guess maybe Mom and Dad bought them for good grades?
 

Wow. Amazing how so many kids were able to work summer jobs mowing lawns and working fast food to afford such nice cars.

Go Gophers!!
 


BleedGopher said:
Wow. Amazing how so many kids were able to work summer jobs mowing lawns and working fast food to afford such nice cars.

Go Gophers!!
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The BMW I8 I believe goes for $130,000+ would need to mow a lot of lawns haha
 

NCAA can't do anything unless they can find the money trail and prove it came from someone connected to the University. Yes it appears there is a problem, but proving it will be difficult.
 


Even with a money trail they won't do anything.
 



If you really think these kids actually own these cars smh
 



If the NCAA won't punish UNC in basketball, what do you think they'll do with Alabama? Their brands generate lots of revenue & publicity for the NCAA.

Only programs like the Gophers' get nailed to the wall.
 



Yeah, someday down the road, we might see a bunch of former Bama players on TV, telling some Nightline guy all about all of the money they got from boosters, but just like UCLA and Wooden, nothing will come of it. Instead they will continue to go after programs like the Gopher's. What was it that they banned the Basketball Gophers from the 1977 NCAA tournament for, one single player selling a couple of his game tickets? If it was more than that, fine, count me as uninformed or misinformed, but that is what I heard it was for.




The thing is, in reality, a good majority of employers out there, and I'm not talking about mom and pop shops located somewhere in SEC territory, but businesses that are going to care about being successful and/or making a profit, will take a Minnesota graduate over an Alabama graduate any day of the week and twice on Sundays.


Go look up the two schools on Wikipedia and you will see in the Bama article, how they brag about their 22nd ranked Law school, and their 58th ranked Business school and their 61st ranked Nursing program and their 104th ranked Engineering program???

That is the best they got.

Now go look up what the UMn site brags about, and see if you can find them even mentioning any program outside of the Top 25, or even outside of the Top 10 for the most part, much less 58th or 61st or 104th??


Overall rankings say a lot, too.


Bama people like to mention the one US News and World Report ranking that has them at #103, the same lame ass source has UMn at #71.

Looking only at that ranking, you'd think that there might not be much of a difference between the two schools, cept that Bama has a legit fb program and Minnesota doesn't.


But that is the National Ranking. The same source's Global ranking has UMn at #38 and Bama at #431.


Then the Forbes Ranking has UMn at #119 to Bama's #252.

Then the Washington Monthly Ranking has UMn at #53 and Bama at #260.

Then the ARWU national ranking has UMn at #24 and well, for some reason there is no natl ARWU ranking for Bama? Wonder why? If it was any good, they would have listed it.


Then looking at the Global Rankings,

The QS Global rankings has UMn ranked #137 and Bama ranked #601-650.

And the Washington Times ranking has Minnesota ranked #53 and Bama is apparently not ranked.

And the Global ARWU rankings has Minnesota ranked #33 and again, Bama is no where listed among their Top 500.



So outside of producing better football players, which they may need to buy? What in the world does Bama produce that Minnesota doesn't do better at producing???
 



ELITEEvan said:
I get the cars are leased with a boosters name on it. Still a problem
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Not even that in most cases. These guys aren't driving around small town Alabama every day in luxury cars just because they took a picture with one.
 

ELITEEvan said:
This post was from elum07 at the Fighton247 Board: http://usc.247sports.com/Board/29/Contents/Alabamas-Recruiting-Dominance-Continues-Wow-50860219

Alabama's Recruiting Dominance Continues (Wow)

As recruiting wraps up for the class 2017, I think it's appropriate to take a moment and recognize the incredible run that Alabama's on right now. This year will mark the unprecedented 7th straight year in which Alabama will finish with the #1 recruiting class in the nation (based on 247 composite). It's just a testament to the hard work of the coaching staff, fans, and boosters to keep the program running at such a high level both on and off the field.

It's crazy that elite recruits are consistently willing to sign with Alabama even at positions of extreme depth, knowing they will likely have to sit for a few years before playing. It's even crazier that so many high-round draft eligible juniors return to play their senior years (e.g. Ryan Anderson, OJ Howard, Jonathan Allen, Reuben Foster, Tim Williams, Eddie Jackson), forgoing the potential of earning millions of dollars for the opportunity to play one more year for free (as well as receive a coveted degree from the University, ranked as the 103rd (tie) best university in the country by US News & World Report's 2017 rankings).

These guys are just doing things the right way, and you have to commend them for it (although it is a tad ironic that their inability to recruit a QB likely cost them the national championship this year).

Anyway, as an homage to Alabama's recruiting prowess over the past few years, here's a photo recap of some of the athletes that have propelled them to the #1 ranking. (Sourced as of 1/27/17 from the public Instagram accounts of 2016 rostered players only):

Jonathan Allen – DL #93
https://www.instagram.com/p/pU69K6mvHB/?taken-by=jonallen93


Anthony Averett Jr – DB #28
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNUmNIYjbAR/?taken-by=antaverettjr_


Shyheim Carter – DB #5
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOcs6_Gjhr_/?taken-by=s.carter5
https://www.instagram.com/p/wpAevhFsbS/?taken-by=s.carter5



David Cornwell – QB #12
https://www.instagram.com/p/oyp-67ze5r/?taken-by=davidcornwell12


BJ Emmons – RB #21
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHsGYoFDEFB/?taken-by=ill_mindedemmons


Rashaan Evans – LB #32
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPvULEuA_1U/?taken-by=l3g2nd


DaShawn Hand – DL #9
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFKoRPCkdww/?taken-by=dhand_9


Ronnie Harrison – DB #15
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPq0ey9jaD2/?taken-by=ronniej15
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLrxYJnDj22/?taken-by=ronniej15



Eddie Jackson – DB #4
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKyUBrpA_jy/?taken-by=ejackson_4
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHs6_ukArJI/?taken-by=ejackson_4
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHc6PT_AptL/?taken-by=ejackson_4




Anfernee Jennings – LB #33
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBu3plBsjPE/?taken-by=anferneej33


Shawn Jennings – LB #19
https://www.instagram.com/p/BI_kG0yBWbj/?taken-by=yung_jefe_19


Nigel Knott – DB #13
Link: https://www.instagram.com/p/BH-VovYhWCT/?taken-by=nigelknott_xiii


Alec Morris – QB #11
https://www.instagram.com/p/2eUJg2B_Hp/?taken-by=alecmorris_5


Da’Ron Payne – DL #94
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMZHJyRD1_r/?taken-by=94yne


Jacob Probasco – OL #61
https://www.instagram.com/p/257FREsjch/?taken-by=njredneck17


Calvin Ridley – WR #3
https://www.instagram.com/p/BA3IajoB3Gi/?taken-by=justdoit_cb3


Bo Scarbrough – RB #9
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPlGfdiDr6M/?taken-by=5tarbo


Deionte Thompson – DB #14
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOf6TQDBibb/?taken-by=hollyw23d
https://www.instagram.com/p/4aMirllX85/?taken-by=hollyw23d



Dallas Warmack – OL #59
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPPO52rhXOa/?taken-by=dallaswarmack59


Mack Wilson – LB #30
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPqTIZeBh1r/?taken-by=iam__mw3o


I guess maybe Mom and Dad bought them for good grades?
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Maybe that is why many of their players don't declare for the draft early when they get extra perks like these for an extended roll tide tour.
 

oleboy41 said:
Not even that in most cases. These guys aren't driving around small town Alabama every day in luxury cars just because they took a picture with one.
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How would you know for sure? Or are you just guessing?
 

GophersInIowa said:
How would you know for sure? Or are you just guessing?
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1 - common sense
2 - not being an old small town Scandinavian like most of this board I've known a number of guys that have played high level college sports. While I've definitely heard some stories, I've never heard of a guy just being given a luxury car. Guys get great rates to rent/lease, guys take out loans to buy, guys get family members to lease, etc. When I was in college one guy befriended a local NBA player and drove his other cars around all the time. But just being given cars? Nah.
3 - My wife grew up with and is good friends with the mother of a Bama commit from this class. We just went to dinner with his godparents last night as they're good friends of ours. If Bama commits are getting promised cars or given cars its very likely I'd know seeing how we've had a number of conversations about the recruiting process. But by all means, yall keep believing this nonsense.
 

oleboy41 said:
1 - common sense
2 - not being an old small town Scandinavian like most of this board I've known a number of guys that have played high level college sports. While I've definitely heard some stories, I've never heard of a guy just being given a luxury car. Guys get great rates to rent/lease, guys take out loans to buy, guys get family members to lease, etc. When I was in college one guy befriended a local NBA player and drove his other cars around all the time. But just being given cars? Nah.
3 - My wife grew up with and is good friends with the mother of a Bama commit from this class. We just went to dinner with his godparents last night as they're good friends of ours. If Bama commits are getting promised cars or given cars its very likely I'd know seeing how we've had a number of conversations about the recruiting process. But by all means, yall keep believing this nonsense.
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Wow count me impressed.
 

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We don't need to worry about PJ running afoul of the selective enforcers at the NCAA...they stopped making these in 1982.
 

oleboy41 said:
1 - common sense
2 - not being an old small town Scandinavian like most of this board I've known a number of guys that have played high level college sports. While I've definitely heard some stories, I've never heard of a guy just being given a luxury car. Guys get great rates to rent/lease, guys take out loans to buy, guys get family members to lease, etc. When I was in college one guy befriended a local NBA player and drove his other cars around all the time. But just being given cars? Nah.
3 - My wife grew up with and is good friends with the mother of a Bama commit from this class. We just went to dinner with his godparents last night as they're good friends of ours. If Bama commits are getting promised cars or given cars its very likely I'd know seeing how we've had a number of conversations about the recruiting process. But by all means, yall keep believing this nonsense.
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You're not one of them "out of towners", now are you??
 

oleboy41 said:
1 - common sense
2 - not being an old small town Scandinavian like most of this board I've known a number of guys that have played high level college sports. While I've definitely heard some stories, I've never heard of a guy just being given a luxury car. Guys get great rates to rent/lease, guys take out loans to buy, guys get family members to lease, etc. When I was in college one guy befriended a local NBA player and drove his other cars around all the time. But just being given cars? Nah.
3 - My wife grew up with and is good friends with the mother of a Bama commit from this class. We just went to dinner with his godparents last night as they're good friends of ours. If Bama commits are getting promised cars or given cars its very likely I'd know seeing how we've had a number of conversations about the recruiting process. But by all means, yall keep believing this nonsense.
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GFY, seriously. You bring nothing to this board but race baiting and nonsense "player advocacy" arguments. Being black doesn't make you special or give you any uncommon insight into the workings of a major college football program. Remember when you started that whiny look-at-me thread and said you weren't going to post here anymore? That was hilarious. When is that going to happen?
 


oleboy41 said:
1 - common sense
2 - not being an old small town Scandinavian like most of this board I've known a number of guys that have played high level college sports. While I've definitely heard some stories, I've never heard of a guy just being given a luxury car. Guys get great rates to rent/lease, guys take out loans to buy, guys get family members to lease, etc. When I was in college one guy befriended a local NBA player and drove his other cars around all the time. But just being given cars? Nah.
3 - My wife grew up with and is good friends with the mother of a Bama commit from this class. We just went to dinner with his godparents last night as they're good friends of ours. If Bama commits are getting promised cars or given cars its very likely I'd know seeing how we've had a number of conversations about the recruiting process. But by all means, yall keep believing this nonsense.
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Ahhhhh....I always thought oleboy was as in Sven and Ole. We learn something new everyday. You're right though...I'm sure everything Alabama does is completely on the up and up. The cars aren't being 'given' to them. We are way beyond they SMU and Eric Dickerson days. Seventeen and Eighteen year old kids normally have excellent credit and I'm sure Nick Saban will guarantee those 'car loans' **wink** **wink**. Come on, man. We all know what 'great rates' are don't we?
 

oleboy41 said:
1 - common sense
2 - not being an old small town Scandinavian like most of this board I've known a number of guys that have played high level college sports. While I've definitely heard some stories, I've never heard of a guy just being given a luxury car. Guys get great rates to rent/lease, guys take out loans to buy, guys get family members to lease, etc. When I was in college one guy befriended a local NBA player and drove his other cars around all the time. But just being given cars? Nah.
3 - My wife grew up with and is good friends with the mother of a Bama commit from this class. We just went to dinner with his godparents last night as they're good friends of ours. If Bama commits are getting promised cars or given cars its very likely I'd know seeing how we've had a number of conversations about the recruiting process. But by all means, yall keep believing this nonsense.
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1. Well no pro teams in Tuscaloosa with a population of 95,000 people so we can rule that out.
2. My wife grew up with story is one person from one class told by his godparents and you wont even say his name.
3. To say this stuff never "happens" did you miss last years draft Laremy Tunsil if you did google "laremy tunsil paid by ole miss"

You must be a BAMA fan or work for the NCAA to believe this is nonsense.
 

dpodoll68 said:
GFY, seriously. You bring nothing to this board but race baiting and nonsense "player advocacy" arguments. Being black doesn't make you special or give you any uncommon insight into the workings of a major college football program. Remember when you started that whiny look-at-me thread and said you weren't going to post here anymore? That was hilarious. When is that going to happen?
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funny how many times the 1 black guy amongst hundreds of white guys is called a race baiter, especially when race wasn't mentioned once in my post, unless you consider Scandinavian a race which would further prove your idiocy. Fact is I don't know you from any other poster but clearly you know me. Maybe get off my nuts and mind your biz and you don't have to get smacked with truth anymore you loser
 

oleboy41 said:
funny how many times the 1 black guy amongst hundreds of white guys is called a race baiter, especially when race wasn't mentioned once in my post, unless you consider Scandinavian a race which would further prove your idiocy. Fact is I don't know you from any other poster but clearly you know me. Maybe get off my nuts and mind your biz and you don't have to get smacked with truth anymore you loser
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I am sure you are a man of intellectual honesty so you would have no problem with generalizing Africans? That isn't a race either.
 

oleboy41 said:
funny how many times the 1 black guy amongst hundreds of white guys is called a race baiter, especially when race wasn't mentioned once in my post, unless you consider Scandinavian a race which would further prove your idiocy. Fact is I don't know you from any other poster but clearly you know me. Maybe get off my nuts and mind your biz and you don't have to get smacked with truth anymore you loser
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You just labeled everyone here even though you know nothing about most people. And then you get upset when someone does the exact same thing you just did?

Your opinion is just as valid as any. My comment earlier was because you appeared to know all about this topic. Was just curious how you knew for sure.
 

Actually there is a way to stop this stuff, it's called the Internal Revenue Service. To acquire such expensive cars they would need to earn money. The IRS could check their tax returns to see if any money was actually reported. Pretty simple.
 


WoodburyTim said:
I am sure you are a man of intellectual honesty so you would have no problem with generalizing Africans? That isn't a race either.
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Is Africa a country? Is Minnesota a state known for its large African population and culture? Are you an idiot?
 

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