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I got my Comcast-Xfinity cable box upgraded to 4k and its awesome, but limited to a few broadcasts. The jump to 4k is similar to the change from old blurry vision to HD.

But availability is limited to a few Smithsonian channels and occasional sporting events. Todays Illinois v Michigan basketball game is reportedly to be offered in 4k, on FS1. I'll be watching.

Have you sampled 4k?
 

OldBob53 said:
The jump to 4k is similar to the change from old blurry vision to HD.
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I unequivocally disagree.

HD is plenty good enough. 4K was just them saying "well, we gotta sell another generation of stuff, so let's market it".

And now 4K isn't even good enough. They're working on 8K next. There are a couple TVs available, if you have infinite money. No content though, that I'm aware of.
 


I'm watching Illinois at Michigan which is in 4k, Its almost like being there in person.

BTW, its 62 - 62 with 25 seconds to go.
 

OldBob53 said:
I got my Comcast-Xfinity cable box upgraded to 4k and its awesome, but limited to a few broadcasts. The jump to 4k is similar to the change from old blurry vision to HD.

But availability is limited to a few Smithsonian channels and occasional sporting events. Todays Illinois v Michigan basketball game is reportedly to be offered in 4k, on FS1. I'll be watching.

Have you sampled 4k?
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You ever get bf’d by mistake?
 


OldBob53 said:
I got my Comcast-Xfinity cable box upgraded to 4k and its awesome, but limited to a few broadcasts. The jump to 4k is similar to the change from old blurry vision to HD.

But availability is limited to a few Smithsonian channels and occasional sporting events. Todays Illinois v Michigan basketball game is reportedly to be offered in 4k, on FS1. I'll be watching.

Have you sampled 4k?
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The Korean porn industry was an early adopter. Great stuff. #kimchi
 

Here's a list of upcoming sports events in 4k, including the Super Bowl.

support.fubo.tv

What events in 4K/HDR are coming up on fuboTV?

The following events are available in 4K on fuboTV: DATE TIME (ET) EVENT/LEAGUE MATCHUP/EVENT CHANNEL 25-Aug 9:00 PM MLS MLS All-Star Game FS1 4K 11-Sep 7:30 PM MLB Yankees vs. Mets FOX 4K ...
support.fubo.tv support.fubo.tv
 


OldBob53 said:
Here's a list of upcoming sports events in 4k, including the Super Bowl.

support.fubo.tv

What events in 4K/HDR are coming up on fuboTV?

The following events are available in 4K on fuboTV: DATE TIME (ET) EVENT/LEAGUE MATCHUP/EVENT CHANNEL 25-Aug 9:00 PM MLS MLS All-Star Game FS1 4K 11-Sep 7:30 PM MLB Yankees vs. Mets FOX 4K ...
support.fubo.tv support.fubo.tv
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The Westminster Kennel Dog Show?!?!?! I finally have a reason to watch.
 



It does seem a bit odd considering all the other things they could have broadcast in 4k.
 

MplsGopher said:
I unequivocally disagree.

HD is plenty good enough. 4K was just them saying "well, we gotta sell another generation of stuff, so let's market it".

And now 4K isn't even good enough. They're working on 8K next. There are a couple TVs available, if you have infinite money. No content though, that I'm aware of.
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Have you watched a game in 4K? There have been several gopher games. I'd compare the difference as similar to going from upscaled DVD to 1080p blu-ray back in the late 2000s. The pixelation around words and players is gone. It's great. It probably won't do much for your MASH reruns though.

Broadcast TV will likely never be 8K. They'll skip it just like they skipped 1080p. 4K is the new ATSC 3.0 standard so that's likely what will be around for the next 10-15 years. 8K will be Netflix, Prime, YouTube, etc if the internet data caps ever increase to allow for it.
 
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OldBob53 said:
I got my Comcast-Xfinity cable box upgraded to 4k and its awesome, but limited to a few broadcasts. The jump to 4k is similar to the change from old blurry vision to HD.

But availability is limited to a few Smithsonian channels and occasional sporting events. Todays Illinois v Michigan basketball game is reportedly to be offered in 4k, on FS1. I'll be watching.

Have you sampled 4k?
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There was a gopher football game last year and 1 basketball game earlier this year that were in 4K. I think that's all we have on the schedule for this year. I think we'll see a lot more from Fox in 2020. They and NBC seem to be leading the charge.

The Super Bowl will be in 4K next weekend so that should be cool.
 

I have a 1080p Roku smart TV that I bought from Costco, a few years ago when they were on sale a for a few hundred dollars. I have never once thought the picture looked bad, whether OTA or for the last year+ on YouTubeTV. Or other streaming apps via Roku, for that matter.

Sure, if you're willing to pay thousands for a new 4K, knock yourself out. As little as I watch TV, it does not seem worth it to me at the moment.
 



MplsGopher said:
I have a 1080p Roku smart TV that I bought from Costco, a few years ago when they were on sale a for a few hundred dollars. I have never once thought the picture looked bad, whether OTA or for the last year+ on YouTubeTV. Or other streaming apps via Roku, for that matter.

Sure, if you're willing to pay thousands for a new 4K, knock yourself out. As little as I watch TV, it does not seem worth it to me at the moment.
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Thousands? They're a couple hundred bucks. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
 

You're correct, I do not know what I'm talking about. I was wrong.

I have not researched TVs or prices in years. What I know is what I see when I walk into Costco, the main displayed TVs are in the thousands. I assumed 4K were all like that, but that is not true for models under what I assume are the top of the line.

That said, I have no plans on replacing my HDTV any time soon. It works great still and looks great still.

I would say a 10-15 year replacement cycle for a main TV is just fine for anyone. If you're a hardware enthusiast , knock yourself out.
 

When viewing content, it's all about the source.

Yes, if you have a 4K display - AND you are viewing a true 4K source, it is a superior picture. But, it all depends on the source. At this point, there is still a relatively small number of providers putting out true 4K material. I believe you can get some 4K content from Netflix if you pay a higher fee.

If you are a traditional cable tv customer, they may or may not have the capability to broadcast in 4K. Likewise with HDMI - have to have a display with the newest iteration and the right cables if you go that route.

And, if you get video through a streaming service, you need to have a lot of bandwidth and a true high-speed package to get the full value.

If you're an "early adapter," more power to you. Sometimes you're ahead of the pack, and sometimes you wind up with outmoded equipment. I had a buddy who bought one of the first commercial laser disc players - the old ones where the disc was the size of a record album.

To quote from the old Knight in the Holy Grail, "He chose poorly."
 

My People! Once you've seen 4k tv you'll not like regular HD.
 

OldBob53 said:
My People! Once you've seen 4k tv you'll not like regular HD.
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This almost makes me want to wait until it's common. Who wants to watch one game in a superior picture knowing they have to watch the other 29 in what will now look like crappy 1080p?
 

howeda7 said:
This almost makes me want to wait until it's common. Who wants to watch one game in a superior picture knowing they have to watch the other 29 in what will now look like crappy 1080p?
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Interesting point you make; I can see that happening. But the amount of UHD content is going to grow just as regular HD evolved from a speciality to commonplace. And color TV in the 60s went through a similar progression.

What will happen is this: competition. The old blurry-vision HD programming will decline as viewers opt for anything in 4K-HDR.
 
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So this week at Costco, I actually went into the TV section (not just the big, expensive ones they have facing the main walkway).

Indeed, they had a 55" TCL Roku 4K smart TV for $260 (not a sale price either).

And I thought I got a great deal at the time for my current 55" TCL Roku 1080p smart TV, which I believe was on sale for $350.


Planned obsolescence is alive and well. Oh well, still not upgrading. Unless the TCL folks programmed in pre-mature death, which is entirely possible.
 

MplsGopher said:
So this week at Costco, I actually went into the TV section (not just the big, expensive ones they have facing the main walkway).

Indeed, they had a 55" TCL Roku 4K smart TV for $260 (not a sale price either).

And I thought I got a great deal at the time for my current 55" TCL Roku 1080p smart TV, which I believe was on sale for $350.


Planned obsolescence is alive and well. Oh well, still not upgrading. Unless the TCL folks programmed in pre-mature death, which is entirely possible.
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But 4k is awesome, I'm telling you. Super Bowl will be in 4k, I can't wait. But if your'e with comcast-xfinity you need to pay a little extra for a 4k cable box, which they'll deliver and install at no extra charge.
 

Comcast are just a bunch of crooks. Like all cable companies that are legally allowed to sign exclusive monopolies with municipalities. I'm fully out, and it feels so good.

YouTubeTV for live streaming. USI fiber for ISP.

Will never go back to Comcast.*

* until they pay off the government to make it illegal for USI to operate, or they just buy USI and then jack up the price/slash the quality.

Because that's what capitalism does.
 

Again, as I said above - if you are thinking about getting a 4K TV, you absolutely need to check with your video provider (cable TV, streaming service, over-the-air antenna) to determine whether they provide 4K content. You could be watching a game that is advertised as "being shown in 4K," but if your provider does not have 4K capability, you will not be watching a 4K signal.

granted, all newer TV's have some kind of "up-sampling" technology to improve the quality of content that was created in a different, lower-res format, but up-sampling is not the same as a true hi-def image.
 

OldBob53 said:
But 4k is awesome, I'm telling you. Super Bowl will be in 4k, I can't wait. But if your'e with comcast-xfinity you need to pay a little extra for a 4k cable box, which they'll deliver and install at no extra charge.
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How much extra is it?
 

Bad Gopher said:
How much extra is it?
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Oh I'm sure CableCo's rip you off for all kinds of box rental fees, 4K upgrade fees, this, that, etc. Maybe only say $9/mo extra, but that's just free money they get to take from you, times millions of customers.
 


OldBob53 said:
I think $5.95 extra per month
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I'm gonna move on this. From what I see, the 4K pickings on regular TV (i.e. not Netflix) is fairly slim, but it'll be sure to expand. Six bucks is a pittance.
 

Enjoy your commercials in 4k! :cool:

That's all live TV is, a bunch of commercials.
 

MplsGopher said:
Enjoy your commercials in 4k! :cool:

That's all live TV is, a bunch of commercials.
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I agree with that Mpls. I keep the mute button at hand when commercials come on, which is very often. I don't want to be brainwashed if I can help it.
 

OldBob53 said:
I agree with that Mpls. I keep the mute button at hand when commercials come on, which is very often. I don't want to be brainwashed if I can help it.
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I won't watch anything other than live sports and local/national news on traditional TV. There is just too much good, commercial free content on Netflix, HBO, Showtime, and if you pay for Hulu you can get a lot of shows with commercials stripped out.

With as little as I watch TV, relatively, I just can't do it.
 

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