2025 Minnesota High School Football Thread

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Ranger692 said:
I live in the central part of the state. Here is my .02 on the class A and AA games listed


Minneota will win by a large margin.

Upsala swanville will win by 3+ scores. A-B-E doesnt have the size, speed, or discipline to play with good teams. Several ineligible players I had heard from grades and drinking through the season

Pillager over S-M In a barn burner. I think Pillager is ready to make the jump this year. Couple highly recruited players and thuer SIZE will be hard for any team to deal with moving forward
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Yeah, it would be a good upset if Minneota lost. They should probably win by 25+

Yeah, hadn't heard abouyt the A-B-E issues and not familiar with the rosters but if Upsala has the bigger more athletic team you would have to take them.

Pillager looks good for sure.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
The new large league no longer has playoffs. They play games and have competitive match-ups for a bowl game tomorrow. Then if teams want to they can play in a 3-game tournament next weekend at the National Sports Center against teams from MN and WI.
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There are a bunch of leagues and most have playoffs
 


timj5304 said:
Crazy night of upsets

Edina over Minnetonka 27-20
Mounds View over Forest Lake 28-23
Osseo over Andover 23-21
STMA over Moorhead 29-27
Farmington over Shakopee 15-6

I’m mind blown
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Tonka - Edina was an ugly one.
 

Gold Vision said:
Tonka - Edina was an ugly one.
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So was MV and FL. Even in a few years ago when FL was 6-2 and MV was 2-6 and 4-4 the games went right down to the end of the game for FL to win. MV just seems to be a terrible matchup for FL. MV just struggles with Stillwater every year and FL plays Stillwater tough every year and even won last year.
 


Gold Vision said:
Tonka - Edina was an ugly one.
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In what way?

Will be interesting to see how these upsets affect the seeding.

Looks like Prior Lake gave South a battle but South came out on top so it will be South at Rosemount next week in a winner take all matchup in the South Metro.
 



timj5304 said:
So was MV and FL. Even in a few years ago when FL was 6-2 and MV was 2-6 and 4-4 the games went right down to the end of the game for FL to win. MV just seems to be a terrible matchup for FL. MV just struggles with Stillwater every year and FL plays Stillwater tough every year and even won last year.
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MV matches up and plays the option well on defense. Shakopee struggled to beat them last year as well. 6A has some parity to it because of matchups.

Seeing a lot of scores that suggest some wide open playoff action coming.

Blaine scored the tying TD against Centennial and had it called back.

Hutch destroyed TG.
Mahtomedi beat Cretin by one
Byron beat Stewartville by 3

Hard to get teens to consistently show up for games especially if they scoreboard watch or to get the focused after big win.
 



MNVCGUY said:
In what way?

Will be interesting to see how these upsets affect the seeding.

Looks like Prior Lake gave South a battle but South came out on top so it will be South at Rosemount next week in a winner take all matchup in the South Metro.
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Shakopee must be injured as they lose to Farmington who just lost to Eagan.
 



MNVCGUY said:
Will be really interesting to see what happens with Maple Grove and Minnetonka play on the 15th. Those two definitely feel like they are a cut above everyone else.

But anything can happen once you get to playoffs...
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On any given Friday
 



6a power rankings:
1 point for a win over non maroon
1 point for each win someone you beat has

Tie break
Overall record
Head to head
After that you’re tied:

1. Maple Grove - 28 7-0
2. Centennial - 28 6-1
3. Minnetonka - 24 6-1
4. Lakeville South -23 6-1
5. Rosemount - 21 6-1
6. Champlin park - 21 (6-1)
7. Andover - 20 5-2
8. Forest lake - 19 6-1
9. Shakopee - 19 4-3
10. Woodbury - 16 5-2
11. Edina -16 4-3
12. Eden Prairie - 15 5-2
13. Moundsview 13 3-4
14. East Ridge 12 4-3 and Farmington 12 4-3

16. Osseo - 11 4-3
17. Moorhead - 11 3-4
18. Prior lake - 10 3-4
19. Blaine - 9 4-3
20. Stillwater - 7 3-4
21. Eagan - 7 2-5
22. Roger’s - 6 2-5 and st Michael 2-5

24. Hopkins - 4 4-3
25. Lakeville north - 3 1-6
26. Eastview - 2 2-5
27. White Bear lake - 1 2-5
28. Wayzata, Roseville, and Coon Rapids - 0 1-6
31. Park and Anoka - 0 0-7
 

Seeding projections 6a
It’s all coaches vote so this is my thoughts on how it’ll work out but there are no rules

West:
1) winner of Minnetonka vs maple Grove
2) loser of that game
3) EP
4) Edina
5) st Micheal
6) Moorhead
7) wayzata
8) Hopkins

East:
1. Forest lake
2. Woodbury (if they beat east ridge, if they don’t they’re 3)
3. Moundsview (if east ridge beats Woodbury slide to 4)
4. East ridge (jump to 2 with win over Woodbury
5. Stillwater (if they beat forest lake and white bear beats Moundsview could jump to 4)
6. White Bear lake - probably locked at 6 but could cause Moundsview to fall all the way to 5 by beating them)
7. Roseville
8. Park

North:
1. Centennial
2. Champlin park
3. Andover (if they beat Blaine, slide to 5 with a loss)
4. Blaine (slide up one if beat Andover)
5. Osseo (slide up one if they win week 8 and Blaine beats Andover)
6. Rogers
7. Anoka
8. Coon rapids

South
1. South vs Rosemount winner
2. South vs Rosemount loser
3. Farmington vs prior lake winner
4. Farmington vs prior lake loser
5. Shakopee
6. Lakeville North
7. Eagan
8. Eastview
 
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Some guy said:
Seeding projections 6a
It’s all coaches vote so this is my thoughts on how it’ll work out but there are no rules

West:
1) winner of Minnetonka vs maple Grove
2) loser of that game
3) EP
4) Edina
5) st Micheal
6) Moorhead
7) wayzata
8) Hopkins

East:
1. Forest lake
2. Woodbury (if they beat east ridge, if they don’t they’re 3)
3. Moundsview (if east ridge beats Woodbury slide to 4)
4. East ridge (jump to 2 with win over Woodbury
5. Stillwater (if they beat forest lake and white bear beats Moundsview could jump to 4)
6. White Bear lake - probably locked at 6 but could cause Moundsview to fall all the way to 5 by beating them)
7. Roseville
8. Park

North:
1. Centennial
2. Champlin park
3. Andover (if they beat Blaine, slide to 5 with a loss)
4. Blaine (slide up one if beat Andover)
5. Osseo (slide up one if they win week 8 and Blaine beats Andover)
6. Rogers
7. Anoka
8. Coon rapids

South
1. South vs Rosemount winner
2. South vs Rosemount loser
3. Farmington vs prior lake winner
4. Farmington vs prior lake loser
5. Shakopee
6. Lakeville North
7. Eagan
8. Eastview
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Really appreciate you putting this together! I’m paying attention from IL, so I’m not super close to what’s going on back at home. This is great.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Mike Sherels fighting the MN Youth status quo of Youth Football and evenly distributing talent. MN Youth programs evenly distribute talent. He argues that it should be A, B, C level like other sports. The top programs disagree with him. Good article with some good quotes.

varsity.startribune.com

Some say Minnesota’s youth football philosophy is holding back top players | Strib Varsity

Minnesota youth football programs distribute talent evenly, instead of forming A, B and C teams, and some leaders say that’s a mistake.
varsity.startribune.com varsity.startribune.com
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I'm I'm not in the football world but that's interesting to read. Every other sport has tiered levels so it's interesting that football doesn't. I think one thing that could potentially be a problem with football (I have no idea because all I hear is from neighbors and coworkers) is how many programs have enough players for C teams? Would you be able to find competitive games in a tiered system?

Soccer at U13 and up has basically 5 levels which is kind of crazy. But everyone for the most part finds the right level and leagues are competitive.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
Mike Sherels fighting the MN Youth status quo of Youth Football and evenly distributing talent. MN Youth programs evenly distribute talent. He argues that it should be A, B, C level like other sports. The top programs disagree with him. Good article with some good quotes.

varsity.startribune.com

Some say Minnesota’s youth football philosophy is holding back top players | Strib Varsity

Minnesota youth football programs distribute talent evenly, instead of forming A, B and C teams, and some leaders say that’s a mistake.
varsity.startribune.com varsity.startribune.com
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Youth football should be about three things:

1. Having fun
2. Safety
3. Learning the game

Boys develop physically at such differing levels. How many kids who play varsity football end up in a completely different position than what they played in youth ball? Dads who want to brag about their kids being on an “all-star” youth football team should not and will not dictate how programs are run.
 

If FL $hits the bed and loses to Stillwater, meaning they lose the final 2 games and Woodbury beats East Ridge to only have one league loss(even being head to head to FL by 51) with both teams being 6-2 then Woodbury gets the #1 seed I read according to Coach Lantz
 

As an LMAA youth football parent (for one more day - the boy starts high school next year) and former coach, I don't have a problem with the way they run the league for the most part. And the article is a little bit off. Of course everyone knows the scores of the games, even if they don't post standings. I disagree with Sherels - I think equal time keeps kids engaged and helps prevent attrition.

My only issue with the LMAA is the overly complicated rotation rules (I'm not even going to try to explain them - the article over simplified them) and the lack of enforcement. There's one program (rhymes with Medina) that consistently cheats in that aspect, every other team and coach knows it, and nothing is done about it.

If they wanted playoffs, they could just re-seed into A,B,C at that point. That's how SW league (non-travel) basketball does it. But then again, there are 30-40 teams in that league.
 

timj5304 said:
If FL $hits the bed and loses to Stillwater, meaning they lose the final 2 games and Woodbury beats East Ridge to only have one league loss(even being head to head to FL by 51) with both teams being 6-2 then Woodbury gets the #1 seed I read according to Coach Lantz
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Many are coaches vote but many use the district record to seed.
 

prespsguy said:
Youth football should be about three things:

1. Having fun
2. Safety
3. Learning the game

Boys develop physically at such differing levels. How many kids who play varsity football end up in a completely different position than what they played in youth ball? Dads who want to brag about their kids being on an “all-star” youth football team should not and will not dictate how programs are run.
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Why doesn't this apply to every other boyssport, then?

Basketball? Hockey? Soccer?
 

GopherGrit said:
Why doesn't this apply to every other boyssport, then?

Basketball? Hockey? Soccer?
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Well, to some degree it should. However, football is a little bit different. Kids can pick up football in 9th, 10th, or even 11th grade and end up being very successful at it. Football is about being strong, quick and athletic. Of course, there are some exceptions to this, such as a quarterback in a spread, pass-heavy offense. That kid would need to start developing those skills much earlier than high school. As far as some of the other sports you mentioned; Nobody can pick up hockey in 10th grade because you won’t be able to skate or stick handle like your peers. Basketball is an also very skill based game with shooting and ball handling.
 

prespsguy said:
Well, to some degree it should. However, football is a little bit different. Kids can pick up football in 9th, 10th, or even 11th grade and end up being very successful at it. Football is about being strong, quick and athletic. Of course, there are some exceptions to this, such as a quarterback in a spread, pass-heavy offense. That kid would need to start developing those skills much earlier than high school. As far as some of the other sports you mentioned; Nobody can pick up hockey in 10th grade because you won’t be able to skate or stick handle like your peers. Basketball is an also very skill based game with shooting and ball handling.
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And baseball. Very few really good basketball and baseball players because both sports take so much time for skill development.
 

timj5304 said:
If FL $hits the bed and loses to Stillwater, meaning they lose the final 2 games and Woodbury beats East Ridge to only have one league loss(even being head to head to FL by 51) with both teams being 6-2 then Woodbury gets the #1 seed I read according to Coach Lantz
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Forest lake already beat Woodbury 51-0 so I think FL gets one anyways
 
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prespsguy said:
Well, to some degree it should. However, football is a little bit different. Kids can pick up football in 9th, 10th, or even 11th grade and end up being very successful at it. Football is about being strong, quick and athletic. Of course, there are some exceptions to this, such as a quarterback in a spread, pass-heavy offense. That kid would need to start developing those skills much earlier than high school. As far as some of the other sports you mentioned; Nobody can pick up hockey in 10th grade because you won’t be able to skate or stick handle like your peers. Basketball is an also very skill based game with shooting and ball handling.
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I agree and disagree with this statement. Football is way more intelecual than most people realize. You can be big, strong, and fast, and line up wrong and give up a td on either side of the ball. There are continuous adjustments made at the LOS you don't see unless you can hear the dialog between offenses and defenses. It takes a special kid to just show up and contribute
 

Ranger692 said:
I agree and disagree with this statement. Football is way more intelecual than most people realize. You can be big, strong, and fast, and line up wrong and give up a td on either side of the ball. There are continuous adjustments made at the LOS you don't see unless you can hear the dialog between offenses and defenses. It takes a special kid to just show up and contribute
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Not skill based. All things a high school kid can learn.
 

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