2024 MN High School Football thread

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Yeah and they shouldn’t have been in 5a

They sucked so bad they got a special waiver to move down.
And because they went down we had a 6a school in the state semifinals of 5a and they haven’t granted a waiver since.

Everyone in the state hates coon rapids for that.

There are probably quite a few schools in 6a who could make a run in 5a every few years if you let them play down.
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They tried to do it in hockey too but were denied. Now both hockey programs are Co-ops.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
You can’t transfer in Anoka Hennepin unless going for specialty programs. Coon Rapids issues are mostly just demographic changes.

Blaine is full and you can only open enroll for CEMS program.
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I can guarantee you people transfer out of coon rapids. I literally know people who have
 

Some guy said:
Edina WR seems to be legit. A lot of rumors about him though.
Kid from coon rapids last year I would’ve loved to have been a gopher. I think he went to Iowa State.
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Believe this showed up in the Other Games thread. Thanks for posting.
 





maroonfive said:
I am surprised Monticello has not been dominant.
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They are #1 seed in their section over Rogers and have a kid going to Wisconsin.

You also need to have the right coaches and culture.

Many factors
 

MaxyJR1 said:
They are #1 seed in their section over Rogers and have a kid going to Wisconsin.

You also need to have the right coaches and culture.

Many factors
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Not just football but all sports. It took them several years to move the stadium to the new high school from the old one. Big Lake is another one. Right next to Becker with similar demographics but terrible in football and Becker has great tradition. Becker had a legacy coach that is the difference.
 

maroonfive said:
Not just football but all sports. It took them several years to move the stadium to the new high school from the old one. Big Lake is another one. Right next to Becker with similar demographics but terrible in football and Becker has great tradition. Becker had a legacy coach that is the difference.
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Has a legacy coach.
 




MaxyJR1 said:
You can’t transfer in Anoka Hennepin unless going for specialty programs. Coon Rapids issues are mostly just demographic changes.

Blaine is full and you can only open enroll for CEMS program.
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This. School districts don't have to allow intra-district transfers and many, if not most, do not.

State law requires districts to allow open enrollment from OTHER districts unless the schools are full. There is no such requirement for school choice WITHIN a district.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Fully developed communities are at a severe disadvantage to non fully developed communities.
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Unless you're Minnetonka, who actively recruits students (not just athletes) to keep their schools full.
 

Some guy said:
I can guarantee you people transfer out of coon rapids. I literally know people who have
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To other Anoka-Hennepin district schools? They're gaming the system then somehow. If they're open enrolling outside the district (Spring Lake Park, Centennial maybe?) that's fine.
 



disco said:
To other Anoka-Hennepin district schools? They're gaming the system then somehow. If they're open enrolling outside the district (Spring Lake Park, Centennial maybe?) that's fine.
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pretty easy to game the system if you have the means

But they do allow transfers within district

They literally have a form for it


Though they’re limited in number and subject to a lottery system depending on the school
 

Some guy said:
pretty easy to game the system if you have the means

But they do allow transfers within district

They literally have a form for it


Though they’re limited in number and subject to a lottery system depending on the school
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Pretty sure someone here mentioned a few months ago that the district doesn't allow transfers to Andover right now. I know for a long time Champlin Park was overcrowded - they used to have a bunch of temporary trailers there.

I'm almost positive the Osseo district doesn't allow intra-district transfers to Maple Grove.
 

disco said:
To other Anoka-Hennepin district schools? They're gaming the system then somehow. If they're open enrolling outside the district (Spring Lake Park, Centennial maybe?) that's fine.
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You can for sure transfer to the magnet schools within Anoka Hennepin. For example, Blaine is a science magnet so anyone in Anoka Hennepin can transfer there for that program.
 

disco said:
Pretty sure someone here mentioned a few months ago that the district doesn't allow transfers to Andover right now. I know for a long time Champlin Park was overcrowded - they used to have a bunch of temporary trailers there.

I'm almost positive the Osseo district doesn't allow intra-district transfers to Maple Grove.
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Champlin Park could get overcrowded soon(ish) with all the development happening in Dayton. It will be interesting to see what they end up doing in that situation.
 

disco said:
Pretty sure someone here mentioned a few months ago that the district doesn't allow transfers to Andover right now. I know for a long time Champlin Park was overcrowded - they used to have a bunch of temporary trailers there.

I'm almost positive the Osseo district doesn't allow intra-district transfers to Maple Grove.
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Yup that’s how a lot of district are

Once a school hits “capacity” they shut off the faucet
 

It’s playoff week. What games are we looking forward to?

4/5 games tomorrow
6A Friday
Section semifinals Saturday
 

MaxyJR1 said:
It’s playoff week. What games are we looking forward to?

4/5 games tomorrow
6A Friday
Section semifinals Saturday
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Chaska waconia is probably the best 5a game Tuesday


feels really strange to see 7-1 Randolph the 5 seed playing 6-2 cannon falls

In that same section 8-0 Norwood young America is the 3 seed.


Section 4aa regular season scheduling is an example of the broken system
 
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Compiled this for my sake, but here’s the MN kids playing committed to the gophs

2025
Robbinsdale Cooper - Emmanuel Karmo
Providence Academy - Abu Tarawallie
Caledonia - Ethan Stendel
Andover - Cameron Begalle
Byron - Colin Hansen
Alexandria - Daniel Jackson
East Ridge - Luke Ryerse

2026
Rocori - Andrew Trout
Forest Lake - Howie Johnson
 


Why on earth does MN not only allow but schedule kids to play 3 football games in 10 days? Seems strange for an organization who prides it self on safety to the point of canceling ALL ACTIVITIES for temps over 83.5 degrees
 

Ranger692 said:
Why on earth does MN not only allow but schedule kids to play 3 football games in 10 days? Seems strange for an organization who prides it self on safety to the point of canceling ALL ACTIVITIES for temps over 83.5 degrees
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Gotta fit 14 games into a 13 week timeframe.

It's kind ridiculous though. If it were me, I'd start a week earlier like Wisconsin does, play 9 regular season games but then only include top 4 teams of each section into the playoffs.
 

Ranger692 said:
Why on earth does MN not only allow but schedule kids to play 3 football games in 10 days? Seems strange for an organization who prides it self on safety to the point of canceling ALL ACTIVITIES for temps over 83.5 degrees
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You realize that the Vikings are playing two games with 4 nights rest. Youth play 3 games in 3 days in tournament football format.

It's not ideal and it used to be every team in the state. I agree it's a bit hypicritical, but it's a Wednesday, Tuesday, Saturday. That's 6 nights and 4 nights of rest and a likely Saturday and Sunday with not activity over MEA.

Teams are not practicing hard at this point so there is a bit of a trade off.

Thanksgiving is late this year and they could have spread it out, but they kept it the same timeframe.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Gotta fit 14 games into a 13 week timeframe.

It's kind ridiculous though. If it were me, I'd start a week earlier like Wisconsin does, play 9 regular season games but then only include top 4 teams of each section into the playoffs.
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A couple of things you could do to fix this.


Change scrimmage week to week 1. Most teams at the 6a level play their starters less than 12 snaps on scrimmage day anyways. No idea what other levels do but it’s essentially a JV scrimmage for all but a few guys who are fighting for a job


Or

Change format so only 32 teams make the playoffs per class to eliminate a round. Then everyone could be on the more logical 6a playoff calendar
 

Limiting the number of playoff teams - you could let nonqualifiers play each other for a 9th game - would solve that problem and also increase the number of teams that have the chance to end the season with a win or at least a somewhat positive experience. It's less of a problem in the smaller classes which have fewer teams and can give high seeds first round byes, but the 1-8 games in 6A, and even some 2-7 games, don't benefit anybody.
 

Some guy said:
A couple of things you could do to fix this.


Change scrimmage week to week 1. Most teams at the 6a level play their starters less than 12 snaps on scrimmage day anyways. No idea what other levels do but it’s essentially a JV scrimmage for all but a few guys who are fighting for a job


Or

Change format so only 32 teams make the playoffs per class to eliminate a round. Then everyone could be on the more logical 6a playoff calendar
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We have such a short season in MN compared to other states. We start games Labor Day and play 8 games and then everyone gets a 9th game.

An Example: In Arkansas they start Labor Day and play a 10-game schedule with regular season stopping November 8th. That's the night of our 3 playoff games.

I think our Prep Bowl should be the first weekend in December.

Fall season is basically 9 weeks of games for most. 9 games Football. Volleyball 20+
Winter season is 13-14 About 25 games Basketball
Spring is about 7-8 weeks with about 13-14 games Lacrosse and 20 baseball/softball.
 

well, in the smaller classes, there may be a few close games - the 6 vs 3 and 5 vs 4 matchups - but it's hard to say there will be any "good" games.

a lot of the top-rated teams either have byes in the 1st round, or they're playing a #8 seed that went 0-8 or 1-7. most of the 8 vs 1 or 7 vs 2 games will be lopsided. a couple of the 6 vs 3 games might be competitive. and then you have the 5 vs 4 games where you have a lot of records like 4-4 and 5-3 facing each other.

sad to say, but in most sections, the first round is just something you have to get through in order to set up better matchups in the semis. if you're a higher seeded team, you want to rack up a big lead and pull the starters to make sure nobody gets hurt.

I have traditionally been on the side of "let everyone in the playoffs," but in recent years, the gap between the good teams and the bad teams has gotten wider to the point where I don't think anything is accomplished by having a 7 seed get beat up by the 2 seed.

I'm at the point now where I say no more than 6 teams advance in any section. if the 7 and 8 seeds want to play each other, great. I'd rather see that then some 63-0 rout.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
well, in the smaller classes, there may be a few close games - the 6 vs 3 and 5 vs 4 matchups - but it's hard to say there will be any "good" games.

a lot of the top-rated teams either have byes in the 1st round, or they're playing a #8 seed that went 0-8 or 1-7. most of the 8 vs 1 or 7 vs 2 games will be lopsided. a couple of the 6 vs 3 games might be competitive. and then you have the 5 vs 4 games where you have a lot of records like 4-4 and 5-3 facing each other.

sad to say, but in most sections, the first round is just something you have to get through in order to set up better matchups in the semis. if you're a higher seeded team, you want to rack up a big lead and pull the starters to make sure nobody gets hurt.

I have traditionally been on the side of "let everyone in the playoffs," but in recent years, the gap between the good teams and the bad teams has gotten wider to the point where I don't think anything is accomplished by having a 7 seed get beat up by the 2 seed.

I'm at the point now where I say no more than 6 teams advance in any section. if the 7 and 8 seeds want to play each other, great. I'd rather see that then some 63-0 rout.
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This is where I lean as well. I really don't want to add any more classes to get to all 6 teams sections. I'd rather 7/8 are excluded or play a friendly. Argument will be that if the teams don't have a round robin schedule for regular season the 7 seed might have a gripe to being the 6 seed.
 

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