2023 College Basketball Transfer Portal Watch Thread

And it is more rigorous.
LOL no.

Most undergrads at the U and NW would equally flunk out of an actual rigorous undergrad program like UChicago. And that’s just fine, it is what it is.

Is NW harder to get into than most of the Big Ten publics, maybe. But after you’ve gotten in, it’s no harder.
 

The U smokes all three in research. Not even close.

Which matters more to college basketball?


The entire point of the NW comparison is NIL: they don’t even have a collective set up yet.

They proved this season that you can win in the Big Ten without having big NIL.


The fallacy was trying to say something like “but they get these special smart kids we could never get”. Maybe that’s true (doubt it), but does that even matter for being a better (college) basketball player? Suspect
Last year was the edge of the NIL frontier. You are going to get strange data points from last year. Going forward- NIL will correlate very well to winning. There will always be anomalies.
 



Brown's visits have been completed. Should have an answer from him shortly, good or bad.

Then I think Pride is in for the visit to St. Bonnie today.
Yeah, that visit to St Bonaventure. Kind of out of the blue. Those dang Franciscans.
 



Brown's visits have been completed. Should have an answer from him shortly, good or bad.

Then I think Pride is in for the visit to St. Bonnie today.
Interesting pair. Brown may be the greater need because he’s a good defensive PG whereas Pride might be the higher end player. Getting both would be a huge boost!
 


Interesting pair. Brown may be the greater need because he’s a good defensive PG whereas Pride might be the higher end player. Getting both would be a huge boost!
I agree with that take. We need another capable ball handler. It's gonna be tough for Mitchell if we don't add another. We'll struggle. Also just everything else that Brown brings to the table would be a boost. Pride does seem like the more highly coveted guy.
 



LOL no.

Most undergrads at the U and NW would equally flunk out of an actual rigorous undergrad program like UChicago. And that’s just fine, it is what it is.

Is NW harder to get into than most of the Big Ten publics, maybe. But after you’ve gotten in, it’s no harder.
I know a number of people who went to UChicago, and your premise doesn’t stand up. It’s such a strange argument - they are each really strong schools, and acceptance, perceived rigor, and success upon graduation is very different by school/college within each university.
 

I know a number of people who went to UChicago, and your premise doesn’t stand up. It’s such a strange argument - they are each really strong schools, and acceptance, perceived rigor, and success upon graduation is very different by school/college within each university.
At the U it depends which school within it you are attempting to get into. The Carlson School of Business, the ChemE program and others are rigorous and tough to get into. Other programs you can fog a mirror and get in.
 

Yeah, that visit to St Bonaventure. Kind of out of the blue. Those dang Franciscans.
Pride is from Syracuse (the city). St. Bona is within a couple hours away, I think, so not a complete illogical contender for his services. Going from Bryant to the A10 is still a big jump up even though they're not P6
 

I agree with that take. We need another capable ball handler. It's gonna be tough for Mitchell if we don't add another. We'll struggle. Also just everything else that Brown brings to the table would be a boost. Pride does seem like the more highly coveted guy.
I agree with that take as well. Getting Brown to handle the point (assuming he can) may work out with Mitchell and either Christie or Carrington. I still believe Christie is going to surprise some people. You don't get rated one of the top couple of players in Illinois without being really good. And if you're really good you'll play, whether you're a freshman or not. At least Brown please..
 



I agree with that take as well. Getting Brown to handle the point (assuming he can) may work out with Mitchell and either Christie or Carrington. I still believe Christie is going to surprise some people. You don't get rated one of the top couple of players in Illinois without being really good. And if you're really good you'll play, whether you're a freshman or not. At least Brown please..
I'm with you on Christie. Though I don't think he'll be able to handle any PG responsibility as some are suggesting. I don't like that for our team and I don't like that for him as a player.
 

I agree with that take as well. Getting Brown to handle the point (assuming he can) may work out with Mitchell and either Christie or Carrington. I still believe Christie is going to surprise some people. You don't get rated one of the top couple of players in Illinois without being really good. And if you're really good you'll play, whether you're a freshman or not. At least Brown please..
I like the bloodlines on Christie as well. Having a brother who is a pro can't hurt in terms of training and knowing what it takes to perform at Big Ten level.
 

Last year was the edge of the NIL frontier. You are going to get strange data points from last year. Going forward- NIL will correlate very well to winning. There will always be anomalies.
Sure, buy this on average.

Neither the U or NW are ever going to be the U of Miami in NIL. They’re going to be on the opposite side of the spectrum.

So seems obvious that, at least one solid way, to win in the low NIL regime is to try to do what they did.
 

I'm with you on Christie. Though I don't think he'll be able to handle any PG responsibility as some are suggesting. I don't like that for our team and I don't like that for him as a player.
I don't understand how people can say this having never seen him play. Maybe he'll be a really strong lead guard. Let him show up and find out.
 

Sure, buy this on average.

Neither the U or NW are ever going to be the U of Miami in NIL. They’re going to be on the opposite side of the spectrum.

So seems obvious that, at least one solid way, to win in the low NIL regime is to try to do what they did.
You have to look at what differentiates you. NW is never going to be a basketball power. They can't get enough good players into their school. But they can sell the 4 year degree and they can sell building a team with smart kids that know that they are not likely NBA guys. The degree with a modest NIL package is good enough.

Minnesota doesn't have that golden degree pedigree. We have a great University in a nice state and it does have the attention of a major metro area- but you have to offset the weather and the poor history (lack of championships) with NIL to attract and keep the players you need. Our NIL has to be as good or better than the teams that range for say the 15th best program to the 40th in order for us to get enough good players to compete and make occasional runs. Once we start winning- things change and the reputation of the coach can change it as well. That's why the hire of the coach was so odd. It could still work out but man- what a tough spot they put him in.
 

I don't understand how people can say this having never seen him play. Maybe he'll be a really strong lead guard. Let him show up and find out.
He may surprise us, and we will find out. Aren't we due for something like that after all the crap that's happened?
 

You have to look at what differentiates you. NW is never going to be a basketball power. They can't get enough good players into their school. But they can sell the 4 year degree and they can sell building a team with smart kids that know that they are not likely NBA guys. The degree with a modest NIL package is good enough.

Minnesota doesn't have that golden degree pedigree. We have a great University in a nice state and it does have the attention of a major metro area- but you have to offset the weather and the poor history (lack of championships) with NIL to attract and keep the players you need. Our NIL has to be as good or better than the teams that range for say the 15th best program to the 40th in order for us to get enough good players to compete and make occasional runs. Once we start winning- things change and the reputation of the coach can change it as well. That's why the hire of the coach was so odd. It could still work out but man- what a tough spot they put him in.
Very well said! A definite uphill climb - and very little infrastructure to have helped him succeed. At this point, everything we are doing is reactionary and that is a tough way to lay a foundation.
 

I agree with that take as well. Getting Brown to handle the point (assuming he can) may work out with Mitchell and either Christie or Carrington. I still believe Christie is going to surprise some people. You don't get rated one of the top couple of players in Illinois without being really good. And if you're really good you'll play, whether you're a freshman or not. At least Brown please..
We need to add a combo guard that plays a legit point.
 

I don't understand how people can say this having never seen him play. Maybe he'll be a really strong lead guard. Let him show up and find out.
Just seems very rare for a guy that doesn't play lead guard on his high school team to come in and have success handling the ball at the Big 10 level.

Not saying it can't happen, but I wouldn't expect it. Even higher level freshmen can find it difficult.
 

Just seems very rare for a guy that doesn't play lead guard on his high school team to come in and have success handling the ball at the Big 10 level.

Not saying it can't happen, but I wouldn't expect it. Even higher level freshmen can find it difficult.
I would agree. That said we had Coffey come in as a forward and play the point, but more as a sophomore.
 

I would agree. That said we had Coffey come in as a forward and play the point, but more as a sophomore.
True, I wouldn't call that an ideal situation when he had to do that though.

He did fine and was able to create more scoring opportunities for himself having the ball more, but woulda been nice to have someone relieve him that year and let him work more on the wing.
 



Ryan James claiming that landing one of two kids who appear to have zero power 5 options between them would be a "win" is something...and we need that player or player(s) to start too...
 

Ryan James claiming that landing one of two kids who appear to have zero power 5 options between them would be a "win" is something...and we need that player or player(s) to start too...
Actually we don't "need" either to start. We need either or both to compete to start.

We could start Christie, Mitchell and Carrington in the 1-2 slots and over to the 3 as needed and we have Betts, Ihnen and JOJ to compete at the 3/4 slots. If we can get Brown and Pride that would make the depth and potential starting position battle better. These are good players and better yet, all conference defensive players.
 

Actually we don't "need" either to start. We need either or both to compete to start.

We could start Christie, Mitchell and Carrington in the 1-2 slots and over to the 3 as needed and we have Betts, Ihnen and JOJ to compete at the 3/4 slots. If we can get Brown and Pride that would make the depth and potential starting position battle better. These are good players and better yet, all conference defensive players.
I want to believe, but man, that sounds shaky to me. A lot of unproven commodities.
 





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