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How many then? You said it.Never said there were a bunch in here. Just read
How many then? You said it.Never said there were a bunch in here. Just read
Nailed it.I've said my piece on Smith before but Johnnyboy doesn't know how to read. He may fail at Utah, but he has a track record of figuring things out. I'm not anti-Ben, nor does Craig Smith have anything to do with my thoughts on the current roster and Ben's recruiting ability.
With the current state of the transfer portal, you always have to be in win now mode. With the lack of guard recruiting, that doesn't appear to be the case to me. Getting Garcia is nice, but this is the only place he'd likely be able to play next season. That's not even guaranteed yet.
The rest of the spring recruiting has been disappointing with the opportunity to really make this team competitive next season. As it stands today, I think they are only marginally better on paper than last season. That's IF everyone stays healthy. Many other B1G teams are returning more, and have recruited better.
I feel like we are in win now mode this year. I think we’ve brought in two transfers that can be at Battle and Willis levels in Garcia and Cooper. We have Battle coming back as the centerpiece of the offense. We have Payne, Fox, and Ihnen to round out a front court. I get they are a little unknown, but ACL injuries aren’t as detrimental. i agree having another Luke Loewe type would be awesome, but if Carrington can be freshman Gabe K we will be in the tourney I think which is a significant improvement.I've said my piece on Smith before but Johnnyboy doesn't know how to read. He may fail at Utah, but he has a track record of figuring things out. I'm not anti-Ben, nor does Craig Smith have anything to do with my thoughts on the current roster and Ben's recruiting ability.
With the current state of the transfer portal, you always have to be in win now mode. With the lack of guard recruiting, that doesn't appear to be the case to me. Getting Garcia is nice, but this is the only place he'd likely be able to play next season. That's not even guaranteed yet.
The rest of the spring recruiting has been disappointing with the opportunity to really make this team competitive next season. As it stands today, I think they are only marginally better on paper than last season. That's IF everyone stays healthy. Many other B1G teams are returning more, and have recruited better.
I didn’t say say anything nor I going to count. GWG said Ben hasn’t earned his respect because he didn’t retain players from the previous regime. I disagreed. It’s a discussion boardHow many then? You said it.
Anti Ben. Must have been someone else.I didn’t say say anything nor I going to count. GWG said Ben hasn’t earned his respect because he didn’t retain players from the previous regime. I disagreed. It’s a discussion board
Nailed what?Nailed it.
So P5 rosters will only consist of players that are all deserving of playing time. Established players, established transfers and the top talented freshman. (and of course a few walks on that can fill out the practices)
Most of his points. Spot on.Nailed what?
Really? It was Ben’s first year and he was prioritizing building a culture and building a coaching staff.We had pretty much free-for-all transferring in the summer of 2021 and a slightly bigger (and probably deeper) portal than we've had this season (this one has a hell of a lot of freshmen transfers without much to show for their first years). We ended up with Daniels, Ogele, and Thiam as scholarship players so I didn't have to look far to find an exception to your theory.
Then BJ is the one you should start laughing at, here is a quote from his news conference last week posted on 247:
Are you still looking in the portal for like a starting two guard?
"You know, right now I feel pretty good about our players. If we could add depth maybe a combo piece, I might lean that way. But I really like our roster. Isaiah gives you versatility. Isaiah can play the two through the four. Jamison is going to play the perimeter and the inside. Parker, Dawson, and Pharrel, are all interchangeable. There are a lot of ways we can go. Then you add in the freshmen and Treyton Thompson into the mix, we have some pretty good depth. So now we look and see if there is a combo that can help Ta'lon out a little bit. I would like to get Jaden Henley some looks at the one, especially with his size and versatility. If we do do something it will be to get Ta'Lon a little bit of help."
https://247sports.com/college/minne...ything-Ben-Johnson-Said-on-May-5th-187224013/
I think it makes for a more respectful and enjoyable board environment to offer an opinion while leaving out the bravado, insulting or mocking tones. Civility breeds respect and camaraderie, like a discussion with a group of friends. Isn't that what we want rather than the other unpleasant feelings?
Do a little homework...
Henley was a guard his whole career until he grew from 6-3 to 6-7 his sophomore season. That is when he transferred to Colony which is basically an all star school. A school that had good PG's to carry the ball up so he didn't need to do it. In college, his versatility can be used to bring up the ball at times.
Here he is in 2020 wearing #21 and #35 at times and showing very good ball handling skills on some drives to the basket.
You can take your pick of watching a few of these highlights to get a better feel of his skills. He is very good;
Jaden Henley's Video "2 Fast Breaks vs San Dieguito Academy "
Jaden Henley's videos on MaxPreps.www.maxpreps.com
Jaden Henley's Video "Game Highlights vs Bonita "
Jaden Henley's videos on MaxPreps.www.maxpreps.com
Jaden Henley's Video "Game Highlights vs Jesuit "
Jaden Henley's videos on MaxPreps.www.maxpreps.com
Seems like hyperbole to say this. If you have quotes from all the other coaches in the country please do share, if you don't, why isn't sharing your opinion enough? Having your strong opinion seems completely respectable but why cite every other coach in the country when it seems likely there is no such evidence, for even a handful of coaches, much lass all the head coaches?Those comments are exactly why I'm concerned about Ben's ability to evaluate. He's really the only head coach in the country that feels that way about Henley. He could end up looking like a genius, or every other coach could be proven right.
NopeStop repeating this nonsense because it's not true. There were only 2 players in the portal when Ben was hired. The decimation and rebuild to a last place team was his own choice, and one of the main reason's he hasn't earned my respect.
You're acting like the Gophers were coming off of a scandal or something, which they weren't. Ben inherited what most other first year head coaches inherited last season. This team could have, and should have been better.
His offer list does the speaking... 2 total offers...Seems like hyperbole to say this. If you have quotes from all the other coaches in the country please do share, if you don't, why isn't sharing your opinion enough? Having your strong opinion seems completely respectable but why cite every other coach in the country when it seems likely there is no such evidence, for even a handful of coaches, much lass all the head coaches?
I never said GWG was anti Ben. I said the type of building Ben is doing with the team is and if someone who was still upset about Craig Smith not getting the job, shouldn't be anti Ben as they are building in a similar way. That's not accusing one single person of being anti Ben. They can be if they want for all I care, I just would think they should have better rationale.Anti Ben. Must have been someone else.![]()
Utah, Stanford, and Texas Tech were interested.His offer list does the speaking... 2 total offers...
The "type" of building of the team is really not relevant. Build, each year, to win. That is what each and every program does.I never said GWG was anti Ben. I said the type of building Ben is doing with the team is and if someone who was still upset about Craig Smith not getting the job, shouldn't be anti Ben as they are building in a similar way. That's not accusing one single person of being anti Ben. They can be if they want for all I care, I just would think they should have better rationale.
Means nothing. The man knows zero about the modern game.Dr. Naismith has spoken…..again
Then BJ is the one you should start laughing at, here is a quote from his news conference last week posted on 247:
Are you still looking in the portal for like a starting two guard?
"You know, right now I feel pretty good about our players. If we could add depth maybe a combo piece, I might lean that way. But I really like our roster. Isaiah gives you versatility. Isaiah can play the two through the four. Jamison is going to play the perimeter and the inside. Parker, Dawson, and Pharrel, are all interchangeable. There are a lot of ways we can go. Then you add in the freshmen and Treyton Thompson into the mix, we have some pretty good depth. So now we look and see if there is a combo that can help Ta'lon out a little bit. I would like to get Jaden Henley some looks at the one, especially with his size and versatility. If we do do something it will be to get Ta'Lon a little bit of help."
https://247sports.com/college/minne...ything-Ben-Johnson-Said-on-May-5th-187224013/
I think it makes for a more respectful and enjoyable board environment to offer an opinion while leaving out the bravado, insulting or mocking tones. Civility breeds respect and camaraderie, like a discussion with a group of friends. Isn't that what we want rather than the other unpleasant feelings?
Maybe Ihnen's game has evolved from the last time any of us saw him play way back in March of 2021.Oh boy. I really hope he doesn't really think what he is saying here. IMO, Isaiah can play the 4 or 5.
Not interested enough to offer?? SDSU and MN are his only listed offers on 247... So 2 coaches truly thought he was/is capable...Utah, Stanford, and Texas Tech were interested.
My guess is that we will see another guard added at some point before the season but I don't think they have to rush to get someone right now.They still need to add a guard, at this juncture both PG and SG have minutes open, it sure seems like a combo guard would jump at the chance to compete for those spots.
Just to float another side to this....Henley could have made it clear to coaches that he was sticking with his commitment to Minnesota which would then make them far less likely to offer.Not interested enough to offer?? SDSU and MN are his only listed offers on 247... So 2 coaches truly thought he was/is capable...
Btw I'm not in the camp that I'm arguing for. I'm just stating the facts as I see them
I think he will be the best option to guard the 3, there will be some 2's he won't be able to guard and some he will.Oh boy. I really hope he doesn't really think what he is saying here. IMO, Isaiah can play the 4 or 5.
Because top programs stop recruiting a kid even though he's committed elsewhere ... Idk... Is what it is.. he's a gopher.. I'm rooting for him ..Just to float another side to this....Henley could have made it clear to coaches that he was sticking with his commitment to Minnesota which would then make them far less likely to offer.
247 has him ranked in the top 200 overall so not like he is a total flyer on a guy who is a complete unknown. He definitely came onto the scene late though for whatever reason.
I also have concern over this...but let's look on the bright side. This may be the most I've looked forward to watching the exhibition game against Concordia or Mankato State or whomever they line up. Really curious to see how Ihnen, Thompson, Carrington, Henley, and Fox are used.Oh boy. I really hope he doesn't really think what he is saying here. IMO, Isaiah can play the 4 or 5.
He was almost a Gopher! Said we were in the top 3 working hardest for him. Then we had Liam Robbins fall into our lap.The younger Pitino grabs Morris Udeze, 6'8", 235 Wichita State, from the portal. Looks like a nice pick up.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/morris-udeze-1.html
Maybe Ihnen's game has evolved from the last time any of us saw him play way back in March of 2021.
He has zero reason to make a comment like that to the media if he doesn't believe it.