There was no whining, just stating facts, and analysis from what I have seen. Your analysis gets you to the same result. There was a post where they thought there were gimme games for Minnesota in conference, that is delusional, we are the gimme game, again which you agree with. I don’t need people to agree with me, that doesn’t make me right or wrong, but you seem bothered if I don’t think losing is great for a program. It’s not the losing that bothers me it’s the way they are losing that bothers me.