BleedGopher
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With training camp upon us, it's time for the 2018 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread!
Skol Vikes!!
Skol Vikes!!
I can't shake the feeling that the Vikings will be bad this year
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How can it not be; we expect an average q.b to be elite.
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Cousins is certainly better than average. 3 straight years of 4,000 yards and 25+ touchdowns isn’t easy to do. The Vikings have better weapons than Washington as well.
Stats below I found are pretty eye opening. First three years as a starter:
Kirk Cousins13,176 yards passing - 81TDs - 36INTs - 67% completion - 97.5 passer rating
Aaron Rodgers12,394 yards passing - 86TDs - 31INTs - 64.6% completion - 99.4 passer rating
Peyton Manning12,287 yards passing - 85TDs - 58INTs - 60.4% completion - 85.4 passer rating
Cam Newton11,299 yards passing - 64TDs - 42INTs - 59.8% completion - 86.4 passer rating
Tom Brady10,227 yards passing - 69TDs - 38INTs - 61.9% completion - 86.0 passer rating
Drew Brees8,551 yards passing - 55TDs - 38INTs - 61.4% completion - 83.0 passer rating
Ben Roethlisberger8,519 yards passing - 52TDs - 43INTs - 62.4% completion - 87.9 passer rating
W’s, where are they? The qb’s you referenced are elite difference makers who can carry their perspective teams. That ain’t Cousins, never has been. He simply isn’t that type of player.
Remember this response. Kyle Rudolph will have his best season (if he doesn’t get hurt), Davin Cook will catch a ton of balls. Digs and Thielen will have mediocre seasons (Cousins doesn’t throw deep balls.) Folks will take notice the 2nd time in a pressure situation Cousins throws a interception (that his mo.)
Did the Vikings upgrade at QB? Not really but Cousins contract says we got an elite QB......not even close. Can the Vikings go to a Super Bowl with Cousins? Absolutely. Can Cousins carry the Vikings to a super bowl? Hell no.
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That division was also a joke, someone had to win itOh so you're now going to use your terrible Rubio take and apply it to Cousins? The only reason the Redskins won the division in 2015 was because of Cousins. It wasn't because of his terrible defense and mediocre WRs.
Now what is he going to do with a great defense and two top WRs?
W’s, where are they? The qb’s you referenced are elite difference makers who can carry their perspective teams. That ain’t Cousins, never has been. He simply isn’t that type of player.
If this season is a failure that is on the GM, the coach, and everyone else who didn't prioritize the weakest postition on the team--offensive line. If they don't pass protect better, we will be asking if Siemian can get us to the playoffs very quickly.
Pro Football Focus had us as the 28th best pass blocking offensive line, entering this year.
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Skol Vikes!!
If you're comparing Cousins to what the QB's listed have done over their entire career, I get your point. But he's comparing what they did over their first three years as a starter. Cousins is right there or better than many of those players at this point when it comes to production. Isn't producing the best way to carry your team?
My point is Cousins is not different than Case. Case would have been a hell of a lot cheaper and we could have fixed the oline.
I’m a patient man and I feel strongly about what I said so I will allow the season to unfold as I have predicted.
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W’s, where are they? The qb’s you referenced are elite difference makers who can carry their perspective teams. That ain’t Cousins, never has been. He simply isn’t that type of player.
Remember this response. Kyle Rudolph will have his best season (if he doesn’t get hurt), Davin Cook will catch a ton of balls. Digs and Thielen will have mediocre seasons (Cousins doesn’t throw deep balls.) Folks will take notice the 2nd time in a pressure situation Cousins throws a interception (that his mo.)
Did the Vikings upgrade at QB? Not really but Cousins contract says we got an elite QB......not even close. Can the Vikings go to a Super Bowl with Cousins? Absolutely. Can Cousins carry the Vikings to a super bowl? Hell no.
My point is Cousins is not different than Case. Case would have been a hell of a lot cheaper and we could have fixed the oline.
I’m a patient man and I feel strongly about what I said so I will allow the season to unfold as I have predicted.
Cousins, Thielen, Harrison Smith, Rhodes, Griffen, Linval, Kendricks, Hunter, Diggs and Cook all signed for at least the next 3 years plus Reiff, Remmers, Elflein and Gedeon. Rudolph, Sendejo and Waynes for the next two years as well.
No reason to believe we won't have sustained success for the forseeable future.
Just what exactly is your "prediction"? That Cousins isn't a combination of Brady, Montana and Marino? So if they don't win the Super Bowl by 3 scores you will call yourself Nostradamus?
Yes, they overpaid for Cousins; don't know a single person that would dispute that. Is he an upgrade over Case K? I think he is, how much so is the question. Bottom line, their window is NOW and they elected to roll the dice on overpaying for Cousins rather than overpaying for Keenum. As Vikings fans we should be happy that they didn't go the cheap route and did the best they could to put the team in a position to win now.
Not really sure what you're saying here or the point you're trying to make, other than the completely obvious?
i.e. 2 years?
Philly showed what an elite OL can do for an offense and team. Their QBs and skill position players are average at best. Oline was the best in the NFL by far.