Love how my post is the one drawing ire, and not the one that originally brought up Tubby to take an unnecessary shot.
Their cheating in the 90s is clearly what has crippled Michigan these last few seasons.
I specifically said "coming into this century." I did not say that it is strongly affecting our program currently. BarnBoy's post concerned tournament wins in this century. Didn't we start out this century under sanctions? Not exactly beneficial for getting to the tournament and winning games. Michigan went 14 years between non-vacated tournament appearances, from 1995 to 2009. Last year's national title runner-up team was Michigan's first Sweet Sixteen since 1994. Looks like Michigan has had seasons vacated in both the early and late 90's, and I don't know if or when they were sanctioned, or how bad it was, but from what I can tell, Michigan was a fairly average Big Ten program for most of the 2000s, with their first tournament appearance of the century being in 2009, so it's not like they had a couple seasons vacated, didn't miss a beat and were right back on top again.
Obviously Michigan has been good the last few seasons, and their cheating in the 90's is not really hurting them right now. I am not trying to say that the Clem scandal is what's hurting us now, or saying that Tubby's struggles are because of what Clem did. When looking at the fact that we have only won one tournament game in the 15 seasons from 1999-2000 to the current one, the poster I responded to basically said, "lol we suck because Tubby," and I was merely trying to point out that blaming 15 years of relatively poor performances on a coach who was only here for 6 years doesn't really make sense. Again, the post I quoted implied that our program would have been capable of more than one tournament win this century if only it wasn't for Tubby holding us back, but considering Monson was our coach for a larger portion of this century than Tubby was, and Monson had sanctions to deal with due to the coaching staff before him, blaming the fact that we have one tournament win in the last 15 years on Tubby, is an incomplete assessment of the situation at best. Blaming this fact entirely on Clem is not fair either, and not what I was trying to say.