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It's a good time to start seeing who will be fighting for what starting spots next year. I'm certainly no expert, but here's a rough list by position:

Offense
QB - Alipate, Gray, Weber
RB - Bennett, Edwards, Eskridge
FB - Hoese
TE - Eure, Lair
WR - Allen, Carpenter, Green, Keise, McKnight, Stoudermire
T - Alford, Campion, Michel, Olson, Wills, Wynn
G - Bunders, Carufel, Gjere, Orton
C - Burris, Davis

Defense
DE - Garin, Gregory-McGhee, Hageman, Jacobs, Wilhite
DT - Edwards, Jacques, Kirksey
LB - Cooper, Edwards, Maresh, Reeves, Tinsley
CB - Carter, Johnson, Lewis, Tillman
S - Collado, Rallis, Royston, Theret
 

Add X. Brandon to WR...also, O (and maybe D) lineman are pretty subject to change. I think shady may compete at S...Rallis may play linebacker...at TE/FB we will have a few others like mcgarry and maybe Rengel.
 

I don't like penciling freshmen in anywhere, it almost never happens. But clearly we need some depth at CB but at present I'll give the nod to the JUCO's to gobble up those spots on the depth chart. Rallis and Rengel are big question marks for me. Rallis seemed to be bound for great production until he hurt himself and Rengle I've been intrigued with since we got him.

Outside of CB I wonder about FB and TE. At FB we need to groom a replacement for Hoese as he will be a Senior. At TE since Lair never established hiself we have to have three legitimate players in the three deeps. Who are they?

QB Gray, Weber, Alipate
RB Whaley, Bennet, Eskridge
WR McKnight, Stoudemire, Green. 2 deep, Carpenter, Kiese, Allen ??Brandon and Green2
TE Lair ??
Oline I'll just make a blanket statement and say due to unity and the desire for stability there will be no change on the starters.

Defense

DT's Kirksey, Edawars 2 deep Jacques,?? (freshman)
DE's Jacobs and Wilhite 2 deep, Hageman and KGM, Garin
LB's choose from a cast of thousands, with Tinsley and Cooper being the only known commodities.
S Royston, Theret, 2 deep Rallis, Salamon??
CB Carter and Collado, 2 deep ?????????????

ST's unchanged with the exception of Orseke returning to his Punter position. (didn't I hear the he had a long kicking leg too once, maybe a KO specialist??)
 

missing Henderson

I would use a pencil not a pen. It is possible he wants to be Gopher.
 



No way would Seantrall be good enought to start on the Gopher offensive line in 2010!
 

I agree with the comment on Fr, no way they compete for playing time, especially Garin at DE and Campion at OL. Garin is talented but way too small for B10. Campion hasn't even practiced with the team yet. Carufel needs to be added to the list despite my disappointment in his play.
 

The only freshmen I added were 4* players. Carter saw TF playing time, who's to say Edwards won't?
 

Schnoodler said:
SH can do what ever he wants if he comes here.
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"Henderson drops back to pass! He completes it down the sideline to.........SEANTREL! He's at the 50, the 40, the 30 and steps out of bounds at the 25 yard line!!!!!"

"Ahh now their saying he scored"
 



This team cannot afford to continue to keep starting the same poor players on the OL. Gjere should not redshirt, even though the coaches may want to have him sit. We just don't have enough talent there to keep him on the sideline.
 

FireCosgroveGuy said:
This team cannot afford to continue to keep starting the same poor players on the OL. Gjere should not redshirt, even though the coaches may want to have him sit. We just don't have enough talent there to keep him on the sideline.
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Look at this list of the 10 best true freshman in the SEC (only best of type list I could find). Notice there are no OL on there. Playing on the line as a freshman just doesn't happen and throwing him into the fire next year won't help. Gjere will be a great player for us but not next year.
 

A real SWAG here (just for fun), but come fall?

OL-
Henderson, Olson, Wynn, Carufel, Michel (there will be some depth and rotation here)
WR-
McKnight, Green, and Green (Stoudermire, Bryant, and several others with lots of depth and rotation)
TE-
Lair (more depth here)
RB-
Edwards and Wright or Kirkwood (all others are valuable depth and rotation)
FB-
Hoese
QB-
Weber and Gray (more WR reps for MG as well, would love to see him every play). Alipate will be solid depth.

DE-
Hageman and Wilhite (KGM and Garin in rotation)
DT-
Jacobs, Edwards, Kirksey in no special order and Jacques in depth
LB-
Cooper, Maresh, Tinsley (Reeves, Rallis, Singleton, and Grant seeing playing time as well)
CB-
Carter and about 4 others in the mix, will shake out very nicely, just can't guess with so many
S-
Royston and Theret (we will have depth here as well, Collado, Shady, etc)
 

Watkins at S over collado and shady
 



diehard said:
A real SWAG here (just for fun), but come fall?

OL-
Henderson, Olson, Wynn, Carufel, Michel (there will be some depth and rotation here)
WR-
McKnight, Green, and Green (Stoudermire, Bryant, and several others with lots of depth and rotation)
TE-
Lair (more depth here)
RB-
Edwards and Wright or Kirkwood (all others are valuable depth and rotation)
FB-
Hoese
QB-
Weber and Gray (more WR reps for MG as well, would love to see him every play). Alipate will be solid depth.

DE-
Hageman and Wilhite (KGM and Garin in rotation)
DT-
Jacobs, Edwards, Kirksey in no special order and Jacques in depth
LB-
Cooper, Maresh, Tinsley (Reeves, Rallis, Singleton, and Grant seeing playing time as well)
CB-
Carter and about 4 others in the mix, will shake out very nicely, just can't guess with so many
S-
Royston and Theret (we will have depth here as well, Collado, Shady, etc)
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Everything looks good... waaaaaaaay off with the o-line
 

Uh, yeah it's never happened...

gophergrad said:
Look at this list of the 10 best true freshman in the SEC (only best of type list I could find). Notice there are no OL on there. Playing on the line as a freshman just doesn't happen and throwing him into the fire next year won't help. Gjere will be a great player for us but not next year.
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GopherGrad, been a fan long? If you can't name 2 Gophers O-lineman who started as freshmen in the last 10 years, you really shouldn't post about O-lineman anymore. You can say it's rare - and it is - but saying it "just doesn't happen" is false. And that's not even mentioning Michael Brewster, who started 10 games as Ohio State's center as a frosh in 2008.
 

"Everything looks good... waaaaaaaay off with the o-line"

Yeah, but I want a new one sooooooooo bad.
 


My guess...
QB: Gray - Weber - Alipate
HB: Whaley - Eskridge - Bennett (3rd down back)
FB: Hoese - Rengell (maybe Rallis)
TE: Eure - Lair - Hughes
WR: McKnight - J. Green (I don't think he'll RS)
WR: B. Green - Kiese - X. Brandon
Slot: Stoudamire (i'd like him to move to DB) - Allen - Hayo
OT: Wills - Michel
OG: Carufel - Orton
C: Wynn - Davis -Mottla
OG: Olson - Burris
OT: Alford - Bunders

Defense:
DE: Wilhite - KGM
DT: Kirksey - Jacobs (will play some DT and DE)
DT: Edwards - Jacques - (possibly Hageman, i think that's his future position)
DE: Jacobs - Hageman - Garin (I think his role would be like Chris Borland for UW (he's only 6'0" 220 (FR) and had 5 sacks)
OLB: Cooper - Singleton - Rallis
MLB: Tinsley - Marish
OLB: Reeves - Grant - A. Hill
CB: Carter - K. Lewis - J. Johnson
CB: Collado - C. Lewis - Bouie (he is an early graduate and will be at spring practice, I think he could definitely have a chance of not being redshirted)
S: Royston - Thornton - Salaman
S: Theret - Watkins

KR: Stoudamire - Bennett (taking over the Jay Thomas role)
PR: Allen
 

With these new JuCo's coming in, our secondary actually looks really good for a change. Royston and Theret will be seniors, so they should do well. Carter, Lewis, and now Tillman on the corners. Collado as a senior alternate for either.

It's too bad we lost all our linebackers. Cooper looked great at times, Tinsley should be out there too, but we'll need a young guy to step up if we're going to have a decent run defense this year.
 

Schnoodler said:
SH can do what ever he wants if he comes here.
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Time to start building a cloning machine. Let's make 7 copies and start him at every position on the O line, and at both DT positions.
 

Bob, I notice you have Whaley in the RB lineup. He is gone from the team or so I thought.m Plus I cannot see Collado starting in front of the JC players we picked up.
 

FireCosgroveGuy said:
This team cannot afford to continue to keep starting the same poor players on the OL. Gjere should not redshirt, even though the coaches may want to have him sit. We just don't have enough talent there to keep him on the sideline.
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You have no idea whether or not Gjere will push veterans for playing time. I hope he does because the pressure is healthy, but the only thing certain is that it's no certainty. And BTW, if the vets could pick up their run blocking we'd be in pretty good shape. No, no, don't give that. The last half of the season I spent a lot of time looking at pass blocking and Mr. Weber had as much or more time than any QB can expect. We pressure other QB's sometimes, too and don't believe that means they should promptly play freshmen.
 

Golden Elephant said:
GopherGrad, been a fan long? If you can't name 2 Gophers O-lineman who started as freshmen in the last 10 years, you really shouldn't post about O-lineman anymore. You can say it's rare - and it is - but saying it "just doesn't happen" is false. And that's not even mentioning Michael Brewster, who started 10 games as Ohio State's center as a frosh in 2008.
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Nice post. Don't tell the star-struck posters around here that we started a two-star OL his freshmen year. They might combust.
 

According to his rivals profile, Gjere is 6-7 275. As a tackle I don't think 275 is an effective weight to play at. If over the summer Gjere can get to 290-295 and looks like he has the strength in the weight room to be effective, I could see him getting a chance at the tackle position, depending on if the returning guys play as poorly as they played at times last season.

As for the posters listing a few freshman who started on the line at the U or other schools, you're listing the exceptions, not the rule. Maybe Gjere will be that special that he will get the chance, but I'd say its a long shot he starts in the first half of the season.
 

I believe Jimmy Gjere played tackle in high school ball. With his height he probably would be better suited there anyway. He has good footwork and could be a great pass blocker.
 

Golden Elephant said:
GopherGrad, been a fan long? If you can't name 2 Gophers O-lineman who started as freshmen in the last 10 years, you really shouldn't post about O-lineman anymore. You can say it's rare - and it is - but saying it "just doesn't happen" is false. And that's not even mentioning Michael Brewster, who started 10 games as Ohio State's center as a frosh in 2008.
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Fair point I should have said it's rare. But my point is that really good O lineman aren't freshman. If people think Gjere will walk onto the line next year and fix it, I think they are clinging to wild hopes. Sure there are examples of true freshman playing on the line but that would seem to be the exception that proves the rule. Gjere is my favorite commit this year and I think he'll be great but lineman have to develop.

Oh ya nice pic, assclown.
 

gopher1more said:
Bob, I notice you have Whaley in the RB lineup. He is gone from the team or so I thought.m Plus I cannot see Collado starting in front of the JC players we picked up.
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Yeah, I posted that on Jan. 5th, Whaley was kicked off the team on the 6th.

I just have seen so much improvement from Collado, and he seemed pretty effective if the defensive coordinator can be innovative in utilizing him. I wouldn't be shocked if one of the JuCo guys beats him out, but my hunch is that it will be Collado.
 

Uhh, Bob.... it won't be Whaley. No longer on the team.
I think a lot of folks are hoping one of the newbies is an upgrade at RB.
 

goldenboy said:
Uhh, Bob.... it won't be Whaley. No longer on the team.
I think a lot of folks are hoping one of the newbies is an upgrade at RB.
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Yeah, I know. I posted on January 5th that I thought that Whaley would start at RB, on the 6th he was kicked off the team, I guess I thought it was obvious that I no longer think the guy who was kicked off the team will be our starting RB next season.

I now think it will be Eskridge and Wright at RB...Bennett as our third down back.
 

What the hell are we doing talking football on here??? surely we can bitch about Brewster some more, maybe Maturi???

I think that it is a tall order for Jimmy or SH to start at tackles as true freshmen, not impossible, but hopefully the guys in the system and in the weightroom could fight off raw undeveloped talent.
 

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