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The system also has a self-imposed ceiling in recruiting.

Couple = 250?

Do you really think Kirk had a green light to call plays? There is a reason he left PJ twice.

You know he did the exact same thing - punted on 4th and 2 from the opponents 37 yard line - against Northwestern in the 4th quarter. The game were we gave up a 21-point fourth quarter lead because we were just trying to run the clock out. Might as well have been Glen Mason on the sidelines. PJ...

Punting within the 40 on 4th and 2 is so dumb, it calls into question everything else he does - and he has done plenty of dumb things after that decision.

Absolutely amazing and one of the better threads ive seen in this board. Consider the absolutely massive leads we have blown and it’s just incredible. I wonder how many times Iowa had come back.

Then I’ll eat crow and say I was wrong and he delivered a breakthrough year.

Dude, you couldn’t be more wrong

If anyone has the right to refer to we, it would be Yah-Ez. You donate that kind of money, you can say we. Deems da rules.

Apology accepted.

That is exactly why we need hard working kids who benefit from game planning and in-game strategy. We get no benefits of game planning and the n-game decision making which is why we put us stinkers (BG and NW) and haven’t beaten Iowa.

https://gopherhole.com/boards/threads/most-disappointing-season-in-my-time-being-a-fan.104060/ Big Arsenal game this morning….

100% this. And it infects the program. And what we saw yesterday and against NW is the end result of seven years of dumb things like that

The mindset and culture of playing scared and not to lose (see 4th quarter of NW) has totally yanked this program. “More games are lost than won” - PJ Fleck What we saw where that ethos has seeped into everything about the team: recruiting. the assistant coaches, the play calling, the culture...

We’re gonna be Minnesota and wait a few years too long to make a decision.

Have been criticizing his shortfalls and tendencies since 2019, this is nothing new, isn’t going to change, and is impacting everything about the program including recruiting.

I’d argue punting from WI 37 on fourth and two was the start.

Yeah. So much talent they brought in 25 transfers.

Fleck couldn’t beat Bowling Green with all of the advantages. He’s been done for a long time.

Meanwhile Louisville just beat Notre Dame. Only half the people in Louisville cheer for Louisville. But yet here they are..