Wow! ESPN...I mean ABC taking every opportunity to tell us the B1G is over-rated.

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Ope3 said:
I'm not sure the cold was even a marginal advantage. It's not like Knoxville, TN is tropical. Evening temps yesterday were mid 30s, only about 10 degrees warmer than Columbus. Didn't look windy last night, nothing really prohibitive.
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So yes, Tennessee had a chance to practice in cold weather.
 


Ope3 said:
Nothing happened on Saturday that would change one"s opinion that Indiana got a Playoff bid by playing a pretty soft Big 10 schedule along with an even worse Non-conference slate.
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That wasn’t what I was talking about. At all.

I was referring to his comments about how average the B1G conference is.

But now that you mention it, a one loss B1G team absolutely belongs in the playoff.
 

Schnauzer said:
That wasn’t what I was talking about. At all.

I was referring to his comments about how average the B1G conference is.

But now that you mention it, a one loss B1G team absolutely belongs in the playoff.
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I don't recall McDonaugh saying anything disparaging about Penn St or tOSU. I took his comments to be completely pertaining to Indiana.

I think Indiana deserved to be in the CFP. Despite a furious comeback, a 2 score or more loss was also completely predictable.

The roadmap to CFP has been laid out for the not so football tradition rich Big 10 teams. Schedule 3 dregs in the Non-Conf, hope you only play 1 of the Top 5 in the Conference minimizing total Ls to 1, and beat the snot out of the bottom dozen.

Let's do it Gophers!!!
 


Ope3 said:
I don't recall McDonaugh saying anything disparaging about Penn St or tOSU. I took his comments to be completely pertaining to Indiana.

I think Indiana deserved to be in the CFP. Despite a furious comeback, a 2 score or more loss was also completely predictable.

The roadmap to CFP has been laid out for the not so football tradition rich Big 10 teams. Schedule 3 dregs in the Non-Conf, hope you only play 1 of the Top 5 in the Conference minimizing total Ls to 1, and beat the snot out of the bottom dozen.

Let's do it Gophers!!!
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Then you didn’t listen to what he said. His comments literally went into detail about how he doesn’t understand how the B1G is any better than the ACC or XII. He more than hinted that the B1G isn’t very good so it shouldn’t be getting multiple playoff teams - spots that could/should go to guess who
 

Schnauzer said:
Then you didn’t listen to what he said. His comments literally went into detail about how he doesn’t understand how the B1G is any better than the ACC or XII. He more than hinted that the B1G isn’t very good so it shouldn’t be getting multiple playoff teams - spots that could/should go to guess who
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You heard correctly.
 

Schnauzer said:
Then you didn’t listen to what he said. His comments literally went into detail about how he doesn’t understand how the B1G is any better than the ACC or XII. He more than hinted that the B1G isn’t very good so it shouldn’t be getting multiple playoff teams - spots that could/should go to guess who
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All of that to me was directed at Indiana because:

- That's who was playing that evening.
- Indiana was clearly by seeding the last Big 10 Team to get a berth and have the weakest resume.

I don't think he was even remotely questioning whether or not Penn St or tOSU were worthy of getting CFP bids or even hosting.
 

Ope3 said:
All of that to me was directed at Indiana because:

- That's who was playing that evening.
- Indiana was clearly by seeding the last Big 10 Team to get a berth and have the weakest resume.

I don't think he was even remotely questioning whether or not Penn St or tOSU were worthy of getting CFP bids or even hosting.
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He was definitely taking a shot at the Big Ten as a whole. Clear as day.
 



Word said:
He was definitely taking a shot at the Big Ten as a whole. Clear as day.
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Well he was watching a Big 10 Team getting their butt whipped for the most part. Go figure.

Again, nothing I heard pertained to Penn St and tOSU, nor how any of them (including Oregon) would do going forward.
 

disco said:
All nine conference champs SHOULD have an autobid. Which is why I would do a 16 team playoff. Nine champs, seven at-large. Yes, that means Jax State and Ohio U get in under this scenario.
No, I don't care if they get blown out in the first run. They did everything they needed to do - they deserve a shot. I will never not think this.
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I’d be in but the money managers won’t
 


Some guy said:
I think Notre dame will lose to the Ohio State vs Oregon winner in the national title game
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The whole seeding format seems to have really hosed Oregon. However, it's resulted in a traditional PAC 10 / Big 10 Rose Bowl, so I'm all good with it. Happy Birthday to Me.

On the flip side, Penn St seems to be living a rather charmed life on their route to the Semis. Glad that swell Franklin fella finally caught a break.
 



Ope3 said:
I'm not sure the cold was even a marginal advantage. It's not like Knoxville, TN is tropical. Evening temps yesterday were mid 30s, only about 10 degrees warmer than Columbus. Didn't look windy last night, nothing really prohibitive.
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At 7:00 yesterday it was 32 degrees in Knoxville and Columbus was 25.
 

Ope3 said:
Well he was watching a Big 10 Team getting their butt whipped for the most part. Go figure.

Again, nothing I heard pertained to Penn St and tOSU, nor how any of them (including Oregon) would do going forward.
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Take it any way you’d like. He certainly was disparaging Indiana but he went way past that to thoroughly poke at the Big 10 as a whole.

Interpret this as you wish:

“I don't understand why there's this presumption that the Big Ten is so much better than the ACC or Big 12. I'm not sure what that's based on."
 


Schnauzer said:
Take it any way you’d like. He certainly was disparaging Indiana but he went way past that to thoroughly poke at the Big 10 as a whole.

Interpret this as you wish:

“I don't understand why there's this presumption that the Big Ten is so much better than the ACC or Big 12. I'm not sure what that's based on."
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My interpretation is...not a anything to even get remotely offended by.

I'm not even sure a presumption exists that the Big 10 is "so much better than the ACC or Big 12". I don't even think the Big 10 "is much better" than the ACC or Big 12, whatever that means.

I would have presumed Penn St was better than SMU and tOSU was better than Tennessee. The were both more than 7+ favorites. They proved it.
 

Strongazzoffer said:
Agreed pitiful announcing. Ohio State going to fuck Tennessee in the ass and then shove their poopy dick down their throat for good measure. And they can all gag SEC SEC SEC as Ohio State literally fucks the shit out of their throat
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It was a blowout so you were watching porn and football at the same time? I guess well do what we have to do.
 


So....I'm a little late to the discussion game on this.

What I think needs to be changed is the narrative from "the best teams" to the "most deserving teams." Under 4 teams, the best teams was fine. But the moment you change the format to include automatic conference & non-power 4 qualifiers, you are a different tournament & no longer concerned about getting all the best teams. The NCAA basketball tournament is not the "best" 68 teams. NCAA hockey is not the "best" 16 teams. It's a different playoff now. I actually think the correct selections were made, despite the 4 blowouts.

I think it seems clear something should probably be done with the byes. I do like rewarding conference champions though so I don't know what the solution is. Perhaps 2 teams from the same conference can both get byes but one cannot be a higher seed than it's conference champion? Example: Texas could have been 3 or 4; it just couldn't have been seeded higher than Georgia. Or had Penn State defeated Oregon, Oregon still could have gotten a bye, they just couldn't have been a higher seed than Penn State. I dunno.

I also wonder if it's possible for a ranking system to be developed similar to the Parawise does for hockey, and you just go by that. With hockey, it's a 16 team tournament, but you're on the bubble if you're in the 12-14 range because some of the auto qualifiers will take the last bids. Problem is hockey is able to have more games with other conferences & data. But it would eliminate any smoke filled room drama prior to the selection show.

As for Sean McDonough....clown narrative. I'm surprised his voice didn't crack during his tirade. I'm just glad all the people running their mouths on Friday & Saturday morning have shut them after Tennessee got their doors blown off. Not meant to be anti-Tennessee/SEC either; they completely deserved to be there.

Also....just for fun. Let's look back at the semi finals since 2014:
  • 2014: 1 blowout, 1 close game
  • 2015: 2 blowouts
  • 2016: 1 blowout, 1 not close game
  • 2017: 1 not close game, one OT classic
  • 2018: 2 not close games
  • 2019: 1 blowout, one classic
  • 2020: 2 not close games
  • 2021: 1 blowout, 1 not close game
  • 2022: 2 close games
  • 2023: 2 close games
So in 10 years, only 2 years were both semis close. In the other 8, there were only 3 years where one of the games was close. Did people really expect all the games to be nailbiters?
 

Ope3 said:
The whole seeding format seems to have really hosed Oregon. However, it's resulted in a traditional PAC 10 / Big 10 Rose Bowl, so I'm all good with it. Happy Birthday to Me.

On the flip side, Penn St seems to be living a rather charmed life on their route to the Semis. Glad that swell Franklin fella finally caught a break.
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Ya know, ya gotta beat the best to be the National Champion, so lets not worry about the brackets so much. I just want to see my Ducks line up and take care of business, they will be fine if they do that.
 

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