Shooter: A little birdie says Nolan Groves is getting $300,000 to join the Gophers from Texas Tech for his sophomore season.

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$125k for Texas Tech, now $300k for Gophers, off to a good start. I'm optimistic he can contribute well this season and get some time in the starting lineup.
 


Spottedmuskie said:
$125k for Texas Tech, now $300k for Gophers, off to a good start. I'm optimistic he can contribute well this season and get some time in the starting lineup.
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Well, that's certainly reasonable if true. If the budget for basketball NIL is 5 to 7 million as advertised, the average pay of your top 9 would be at least 500k. I would think Groves can be a rotation guy so 300K for someone that is 7th-9th guy is about right.
 


bga1 said:
Well, that's certainly reasonable if true. If the budget for basketball NIL is 5 to 7 million as advertised, the average pay of your top 9 would be at least 500k. I would think Groves can be a rotation guy so 300K for someone that is 7th-9th guy is about right.
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Yeah, this is probably one of those times when Shooter actually has good information.....I mean I'm sure it happens from time to time.....
 

bga1 said:
Well, that's certainly reasonable if true. If the budget for basketball NIL is 5 to 7 million as advertised, the average pay of your top 9 would be at least 500k. I would think Groves can be a rotation guy so 300K for someone that is 7th-9th guy is about right.
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I remember the years that I actually paid to attend the U. 🧑🏼‍🎓
 

IDK... Nolan Groves was the first guy to sign...does he commit for $300,000 not knowing who else is on the team just because he's homesick? Wisconsin was reportedly recruiting him hard as well.
Is $300k enough to end your recruiting and be the first guy to sign for the the Gophers after he chose Texas Tech the year before as widely reported because they offered him more money? Timeline logic and the small amount says the number is too low.
 

60's Guy said:
IDK... Nolan Groves was the first guy to sign...does he commit for $300,000 not knowing who else is on the team just because he's homesick? Wisconsin was reportedly recruiting him hard as well.
Is $300k enough to end your recruiting and be the first guy to sign for the the Gophers after he chose Texas Tech the year before as widely reported because they offered him more money? Timeline logic and the small amount says the number is too low.
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With respect to Nolan going from $125k to $300k with his limited production is like getting fired from your middle management 85k job and then getting a director job. Groves has potential but I doubt it was going to get any better for him considering his limited production. It might end up being a steal, I think he will be a key nine man member of the rotation but at this stage it's kind of a no brainer for him
 



60's Guy said:
IDK... Nolan Groves was the first guy to sign...does he commit for $300,000 not knowing who else is on the team just because he's homesick? Wisconsin was reportedly recruiting him hard as well.
Is $300k enough to end your recruiting and be the first guy to sign for the the Gophers after he chose Texas Tech the year before as widely reported because they offered him more money? Timeline logic and the small amount says the number is too low.
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Perhaps money wasn't the top factor. Maybe he had a dollar amount in mind and as long as the offer was within that range, he'd commit to where he felt it was best.
 


GophersInIowa said:
Perhaps money wasn't the top factor. Maybe he had a dollar amount in mind and as long as the offer was within that range, he'd commit to where he felt it was best.
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I would think playing time has to be a big factor. He’ll get that here as we don’t have big money to get better players than him.
 

I also think things will go in cycles a bit. Initially I'm guessing a lot of players were essentially looking for the highest payday. While that will always be the case, I'm guessing more guys are starting to look at good fits that might be a little less money up front but may result in more money down the road.

There's now lots of examples of guys that went for the biggest money and failed. Which could cause them to lose more money down the road.
 







Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc could have paid him more than that to play the same role. Yet he went to oil rich TT. I’d be surprised if the Gophers had anyone only making that. That’s chump change in today’s college basketball.
 

If true, then we know Nolan Groves has returned to Minnesota for reasons other than money. $300,000 is pocket change for Texas Tech.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc could have paid him more than that to play the same role. Yet he went to oil rich TT. I’d be surprised if the Gophers had anyone only making that. That’s chump change in today’s college basketball.
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Nobody knows what these guys are actually getting paid. RB mentioned on a pod that MN is one of the few universities that actually pay players their full NIL contracts.
 

Emil said:
If true, then we know Nolan Groves has returned to Minnesota for reasons other than money. $300,000 is pocket change for Texas Tech.
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TT may not have made any offer

And we have no idea if any of the reported numbers are even close to actual monies received
 


GopherWeatherGuy said:
Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc could have paid him more than that to play the same role. Yet he went to oil rich TT. I’d be surprised if the Gophers had anyone only making that. That’s chump change in today’s college basketball.
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Fair, but Groves was a late Spring add to fill their their last scholarship, maybe Minny and Wisconsin only had a100 and Tech through an extra 25 K in, why pay more if you don't have too? Each year the price goes up two years Tom Cream said on TV you need 5 million to win a title, last year everyone said you need ten, now it's 14-15 million plays, we're at 7 million allegedly, which would have been great three years ago, but the point is the money is just going to continue to go up.
 

60's Guy said:
IDK... Nolan Groves was the first guy to sign...does he commit for $300,000 not knowing who else is on the team just because he's homesick? Wisconsin was reportedly recruiting him hard as well.
Is $300k enough to end your recruiting and be the first guy to sign for the the Gophers after he chose Texas Tech the year before as widely reported because they offered him more money? Timeline logic and the small amount says the number is too low.
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Not sure who "widely reported" that Groves signed w Texas Tech due to money? Sounds like sour grapes.

Texas Tech had recruited & built a relationship with Groves for a long time. Niko jumped in at the last minute & just couldn't make up for all the lost time is what Ryan James said.

Groves was homesick at Texas Tech, as happens with 18 y/o's.

He'd already moved back home before anyone here knew he was entering the portal because he knew he was going to stay close to home. That's why Mn & Wi were the only teams he really considered this time. It was reported he really clicked with Niko in the short time Niko recruited him the 1st time around.

I think it makes perfect sense that he jumped on 300k, got to stay home & play for a coach he'd grown increasingly comfortable with.
 

gopherbadgerman said:
Really? Not like he’s that great
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Texas Tech was a top-10 team & recruited Groves hard. They obviously had a different opinion of Groves than you.

Texas Tech has a ridiculous amount of money to spend & aren't afraid to throw it at players they want. I've heard it was FAR more than $125k.

This isn't that complicated. The kid was homesick, likes Niko & wanted to play the Gophers. We made him a reasonable offer & he jumped on it.
 


Costa Rican Gopher said:
Texas Tech was a top-10 team & recruited Groves hard. They obviously had a different opinion of Groves than you.

Texas Tech has a ridiculous amount of money to spend & aren't afraid to throw it at players they want. I've heard it was FAR more than $125k.

This isn't that complicated. The kid was homesick, likes Niko & wanted to play the Gophers. We made him a reasonable offer & he jumped on it.
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Largely agree with you... (1) he got more at Texas Tech. (2) He likes Niko and wanted to play close to home. But (3) doesn't work for me...$300k is not a reasonable offer as first guy to sign with Wisconsin competing.
If we got $7M to spend...8 of the 15 are getting squat...7 are getting paid more than $300k but how
many of those 7 are worthy of $1M plus? JCJ or Winters Grady maybe...Evans maybe...you can go down the list and say maybe for Durkin, Asuma and Kordel ... but I see more than $300k for Groves in the budget. Palmer I can see at $300k.
 


60's Guy said:
$300k is not a reasonable offer as first guy to sign with Wisconsin competing.
If we got $7M to spend...8 of the 15 are getting squat...7 are getting paid more than $300k but how
many of those 7 are worthy of $1M plus? JCJ or Winters Grady maybe...Evans maybe...you can go down the list and say maybe for Durkin, Asuma and Kordel ... but I see more than $300k for Groves in the budget. Palmer I can see at $300k.
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Maybe? Sounds like Groves/Niko already had it worked out. Groves had already moved home, enrolled at the U & made it known to Niko he wanted to be a Gopher. His agent brought Wisconsin into it for some leverage, but I think it was basically a "I want to come home & play at the U. Pay me what you can pay me." situation. I don't think Groves drove a hard bargain. How much that is? I don't know. 300k doesn't sound as far off as 125k at Texas Tech last year imo.
 


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