Ope3
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Horrible, awful owners win playoff games all the time.
So what?
It means their fanbases celebrate victories.
Viking fans are deprived of such enjoyment.
Horrible, awful owners win playoff games all the time.
So what?
KOC won 14 games and was coach of the year. Wilfs hired him
Most fanbases don't get to celebrate playoff victories every year for several years in a row.Lead to Jack Squat.
Most fanbases don't get to celebrate playoff victories every year for several years in a row.
I'm willing to give KOC another year and if we don't win a playoff game, I'd like to put Flores as head coach and defensive playcaller and get a new offensive playcaller.
22 NFL Franchises have celebrated Playoff Victories more recently than the Vikings.
12 of the other 15 NFC Teams have reached the Super Bowl since the Wilf's bought the franchise.
No clue how to build a winner.
Vikings won a playoff game in 2020 (the 2019 season). Sure, we're due for another and it needs to be 2026 season.22 NFL Franchises have celebrated Playoff Victories more recently than the Vikings.
12 of the other 15 NFC Teams have reached the Super Bowl since the Wilf's bought the franchise.
No clue how to build a winner.
I'm not pretending anything.If you're trying to pretend that most franchises win playoff games every 2-3 years, that's just a lie.
Where you're being dishonest is pretending that it's been like since 1978 that we haven't won one. We just did in 2020.I'm not pretending anything.
22 franchises have won a playoff game more recently than the Vikings. Fact.
That's on Ownership. Rudderless.
I'm not pretending anything. 22 teams have won a Playoff game more recently than the Vikings.Where you're being dishonest is pretending that it's been like since 1978 that we haven't won one. We just did in 2020.
We'll be just fine if we win another one in 2026.
Took me a few minutes to figure outs his creds, which just may be slightly higher than yoursBen Goessling was on with Dan on Fri and specifically addressed why he and actual legitimate reporters like Seifert, Shefter, etc. aren't reporting things like above.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure ........ Dan Rotman? Who TF is that? .... is a stand up guy.
That is gossip. That is not news.
Legitimate, credible reports cannot and should report gossip. Carry on
What was your first clueA new day and time to call out yet another Vikings failure as I suspect many are tired of my lack of Playoff Victories diatribe under the Wilf regime.
It's been 16 seasons since the Purple have made it to the Playoffs in consecutive years ('08 & '09). That puts them in select company amongst their other 15 NFC brethren. The only teams within their Conference to have as long or longer of a streak are:
Chicago
Washington
New York
Da Bears can get off the list in 2026. The other 3 will have to wait until 2027 at the earliest.
What was your first clue![]()
The Pohlads should read this thread for an ego boost. As hated as they are, I doubt any Twins fan hates them as much as @Ope3 hates the Wilfs.
Let him hang around for 3 seasons extend him prior to year 4, 2025 season ends and it takes more than 3 weeks before they "survey the landscape" and decide that's where the problem lies.
What a joke.
The bigger joke would have been hanging on to him. I give them credit for realizing the mistake and moving on sooner than later. Up to now, they have not proven to be owners that make quick rash decisions.
I'm looking forward, not backward. I'm excited about the search for a new GM as, from the sounds of it, this will be a very sought after job. Good owners, good facilities, good roster, and good Coaching staff. Talented people are going to want the Vikings GM job
Maybe let Brezinsky (sp?) make the hire of the GM (for football related things) and promote B to the GM's boss.The bigger joke would have been hanging on to him. I give them credit for realizing the mistake and moving on sooner than later. Up to now, they have not proven to be owners that make quick rash decisions.
I'm looking forward, not backward. I'm excited about the search for a new GM as, from the sounds of it, this will be a very sought after job. Good owners, good facilities, good roster, and good Coaching staff. Talented people are going to want the Vikings GM job
George Paton was mentioned in The Athletic, as someone who will get a look.The bigger joke would have been hanging on to him. I give them credit for realizing the mistake and moving on sooner than later. Up to now, they have not proven to be owners that make quick rash decisions.
I'm looking forward, not backward. I'm excited about the search for a new GM as, from the sounds of it, this will be a very sought after job. Good owners, good facilities, good roster, and good Coaching staff. Talented people are going to want the Vikings GM job
George Paton was mentioned in The Athletic, as someone who will get a look.
His role with the Broncos changed since Peyton arrived and he has lots of good relationships in Eagan after spending -4 years with the Vikes and rising the ranks of Assistant GM, before he left for the Broncos’ GM in 202.
The Russell Wilson thing was bad. Most of the rest has been good. I'm not sure how much say Paton has with Sean Peyton around, so he might be willing to make the move.There was a time when I would have thought Paton would be a good get. I'd have to think about it. Man, I want to say his brief time between Denver hiring him and Payton coming on board had some real bad decisions in there but I may be misremembering (wasn't he responsible for the Russell Wilson mess?)
Sounds well thought of though, and he's on an expiring contract in Denver it sounds like.
EDIT: A quick review of his drafts since getting to Denver look pretty solid, I have to say
His contract expires next year and no extension has been discussed/offered per Mike Sando.There was a time when I would have thought Paton would be a good get. I'd have to think about it. Man, I want to say his brief time between Denver hiring him and Payton coming on board had some real bad decisions in there but I may be misremembering (wasn't he responsible for the Russell Wilson mess?)
Sounds well thought of though, and he's on an expiring contract in Denver it sounds like.
EDIT: A quick review of his drafts since getting to Denver look pretty solid, I have to say
If the Vikings do hire him, Sean Peyton will say he never wanted him back anyway and he baited the Vikings into it.His contract expires next year and no extension has been discussed/offered per Mike Sando.
He’s well liked in Eagan and throughout the League and admired for his talent evaluation, Surtain being the gem.
The article said Peyton calls the shots and it wouldn’t be surprising if he was interested. It wouldn’t surprise me if Peyton wants his guy in as well - so they may not put up much of a fight to keep him.
I came across this article yesterday and found it quite enjoyable and coalesced many of my thoughts about NFL owners. The Wilfs' aren't specifically mentioned (Woody Johnson, Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, David Tepper get most of the print) and while Vikings' ownership has been stable since their arrival and they have been savvier PR-wise than the likes of Tepper and Johnson, a lot of your thoughts do align with the current ownership class--owning a NFL team is a cash cow and on field success is a secondary consideration.My impression of the Wilfs is they stay in their New Jersey base for 345 days a year, fly in for game days and do not have a freaking clue as to what goes on in Eagan on a routine basis. None.
Just a guess, their underlings just tell them what the want to hear that everything is hunky dory. Lip service. Oblivious to what is really going on in house.
Hire KAM, outside the box and from a pretty suspect organization (the woeful Browns) even if he had only been there a year.
Let him hang around for 3 seasons extend him prior to year 4, 2025 season ends and it takes more than 3 weeks before they "survey the landscape" and decide that's where the problem lies.
What a joke.