Max

[50PoundHead]

Yikes, felt a little bad for Max, it was brutal. Our Kevinly Father said he was processing too fast, whatever that means

It sounds counter-intuitive but I was seeing someting similar to what O'Connell was saying. Brosmer was getting a little jumpy and not letting plays develop. Of course, the Seahawks were all over him so he had good reason to rush things or get sacked twice as many times as he did.

I thought his bigger problem is that his footwork was off and he was sailing the ball something terrible. It's obvious he spent a lot of time developing arm strength but it looks like he has sacrificed accuracy in the process.

 

[Mulligan]

It was awful but I think if Addison had caught that first ball he dropped, it might have settled Max down and he would have gotten into a rhythm. Someone might miss 5 three-pointers in a row, but one goes through and suddenly the player can't miss. We probably wouldn't have won, but Max wouldn't be in the Viking Hall of Disasters.

 

[Panthadad2]

It was awful but I think if Addison had caught that first ball he dropped, it might have settled Max down and he would have gotten into a rhythm. Someone might miss 5 three-pointers in a row, but one goes through and suddenly the player can't miss. We probably wouldn't have won, but Max wouldn't be in the Viking Hall of Disasters.

Same goes for the disaster pick 6 fourth down. If a field goal is kicked, or literally any other play run that doesn’t leave the play-side defensive end completely unblocked in the QBs face, the game and Max’s status is different. Oh well. The play is now immortalized.

 

[50PoundHead]

Same goes for the disaster pick 6 fourth down. If a field goal is kicked, or literally any other play run that doesn’t leave the play-side defensive end completely unblocked in the QBs face, the game and Max’s status is different. Oh well. The play is now immortalized.

Ever since Dan Campbell started going for it on 4th-and-whatever, every coach in the league seems to think he has to do the same thing regardless of game situation. Take the points there and hope your defense can keep you in the game. Can't assume the field goal would have been good (although it would have been a rare miss from that range), but that was likely a 10-point swing.

That said, no excuse of Max's continuing the play.

 

[Some guy]

Ever since Dan Campbell started going for it on 4th-and-whatever, every coach in the league seems to think he has to do the same thing regardless of game situation. Take the points there and hope your defense can keep you in the game. Can't assume the field goal would have been good (although it would have been a rare miss from that range), but that was likely a 10-point swing.

That said, no excuse of Max's continuing the play.

When more and more teams follow the analytics it’ll be interesting to see the numbers change

All the data saying go for it is based on teams usually not going for it.


Perhaps in 6 years it’ll confirm 2025 analytics
Perhaps new data will say whoops

 

[50PoundHead]

When more and more teams follow the analytics it’ll be interesting to see the numbers change

All the data saying go for it is based on teams usually not going for it.


Perhaps in 6 years it’ll confirm 2025 analytics
Perhaps new data will say whoops

That's all true, but it seems the decisions often don't fall in line within the context of the game. The counterargument to my point is O'Connell probably thought he had to think outside the box and somehow get a lead when in a situation to do so with Max under center and hope the defense could hold it. He's the coach and I'm not.

 

[Some guy]

That's all true, but it seems the decisions often don't fall in line within the context of the game. The counterargument to my point is O'Connell probably thought he had to think outside the box and somehow get a lead when in a situation to do so with Max under center and hope the defense could hold it. He's the coach and I'm not.

It’ll be interesting to see how he counters.
He takes more 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 shots than any coach I’ve seen

The more you do that the less it’s there.
I have no problem with him going for it. But if you’re trying to play gotcha instead of physical on 4th and 2….you better not get out smarted by the defense.

He was 0/1 on that play.

 

[GFBfan]

That's all true, but it seems the decisions often don't fall in line within the context of the game. The counterargument to my point is O'Connell probably thought he had to think outside the box and somehow get a lead when in a situation to do so with Max under center and hope the defense could hold it. He's the coach and I'm not.

Thinking outside the box would have been to run the ball in that situation as he is known to want to always throw it. The way the D was aligned, they were playing pass all the way.

 

[BilldGopher]

Max will process all this and be fine. Whether that means he ever sees a field again is another issue.

Anyone watching the game saw that he was in a very low probability success situation. Seattle's defense is the real deal, his receivers were not helping, and thank god for the TE that gave some positive yards.

I'm not a pro ball guy nor do I watch the Vikings, but Jefferson was in major pout mode to these eyes. Limited dataset but it didn't look like he was trying very hard to get open. Go ahead any significant other of Mr. Jefferson and let me have it if you are reading this...

 

[walrus]

Max will process all this and be fine. Whether that means he ever sees a field again is another issue.

Anyone watching the game saw that he was in a very low probability success situation. Seattle's defense is the real deal, his receivers were not helping, and thank god for the TE that gave some positive yards.

I'm not a pro ball guy nor do I watch the Vikings, but Jefferson was in major pout mode to these eyes. Limited dataset but it didn't look like he was trying very hard to get open. Go ahead any significant other of Mr. Jefferson and let me have it if you are reading this...

I couldn’t help but see the same thing you did about the Viking’s “…star baby… “for much of this season. It’s a tough season all the way around for that team, Good luck to JJ and Max. Tony Dungy switched his dream to coaching. Who knows…they say he really inderstands offenses.