All Things 2025 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

[Ope3]

Good. If he truly wants to un-retire, he shouldn't get to play until the 2026 season. That's what the rule should say.

You have provided zero reason why there should be such a rule.

Thank you for sustaining my indifference.

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

You haven't made any point why anyone should care about a one year blip in season cash. You just point at it, as if it's supposed to be self evident of something.

I don't see any valid reason for there to be any such "something", though.


Very easy to show why it doesn't work:

- scenario A: owners decide no one gets any bonus in a new contract
- scenario B: owners decide they want to give huge bonuses in all new contracts

Exact same total value of the contracts in both cases, so will ultimately (over X years) have the same cumulative cap hits. But in scenario B there is a big blip in season cash the first year.

So what?


Make a logical argument for how this season's blip in cash proves something about KAM.


Again, I'm happy to use it as an excuse to fire KAM. But that really seems to be all you're doing here.

Because the owners are paying the most cash in the NFL for poor results this season. In addition they are back in cap hell again next season, and they'll have to make several cuts just to get under the cap.

Do you think the owners are getting what they paid for? This aging and expensive roster will limit how competitive they will be for the next several years. This isn't difficult to understand.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Max mania has begun

 

[Ogie Ogilthorpe]

Because the owners are paying the most cash in the NFL for poor results this season. In addition they are back in cap hell again next season, and they'll have to make several cuts just to get under the cap.

Do you think the owners are getting what they paid for? This aging and expensive roster will limit how competitive they will be for the next several years. This isn't difficult to understand.

They are not in cap hell next year, no matter how many times people want to say that. The contracts that would most put them over the cap were structured to be re-done next spring. This is not news to anyone. There will be some attrition of players like Harrison Smith but it's not like they will be watching a half dozen impactful starters walk out the door. It's not happening, there's no sense in losing our minds over this right now

 

[Ope3]

They are not in cap hell next year, no matter how many times people want to say that. The contracts that would most put them over the cap were structured to be re-done next spring. This is not news to anyone. There will be some attrition of players like Harrison Smith but it's not like they will be watching a half dozen impactful starters walk out the door. It's not happening, there's no sense in losing our minds over this right now

Yeah, I am not stressing over the Vikings being in "cap hell'. It is frustrating though that they were in "cap heaven" this season and are most likely to do Jack Squat.

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

They are not in cap hell next year, no matter how many times people want to say that. The contracts that would most put them over the cap were structured to be re-done next spring. This is not news to anyone. There will be some attrition of players like Harrison Smith but it's not like they will be watching a half dozen impactful starters walk out the door. It's not happening, there's no sense in losing our minds over this right now

I disagree that they are going to restructure their way out of it. They're not going to restructure Jefferson, Darrisaw, or Murphy who are all on new deals. Greenard, O'Neil, and Van Ginkle would make some sense but the latter 2 will be 31. Do you really want to try and extend/restructure Hockenson's massive deal or do you cut him? He has 12.4 million in dead cap.

Harrison Smith counts for 1.41% of the cap next season, that doesn't save them anything. He'll either be on the roster or need to retire, otherwise it's 10 million in dead cap if they release him.

The biggest problem is Allen and Hargrave. They're count for 43 million against the cap next season and if you cut them, it's still ~28 million in dead cap.

Minus Smith, those are your top 9 cap hits for next season.