All Things 2025 Minnesota Twins In-Season Thread

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howeda7 said:
Castro and Brock Stewart would net something decent. Probably Coulumbe too. France and Paddock probably just a lottery ticket. Bader would also, but I'd try to sign him first.
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I suppose if you have determined it is a throwaway year, it makes sense to move them all. Even if you only hit on a couple that can help you down the road, it would be worth it. I don't have much faith in this team turning it around this year, but I'd still wait until closer to the deadline (as they will).
 

howeda7 said:
Maybe but this team doesn't have that feel IMO. The problem is they're chasing about 5 teams for the 3rd WC. At least one of them is going to go 35-25 or something down the stretch which means they might have to go 40-20 or so to make the play-offs. I don't really see it. If they're under .500 at the trade deadline, I'd sell. At or above, go for it.
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Most of the teams that made a run didn't have 'that feel' at this point, or even a month from now. Two years ago Arizona was under .500 in August and got swept by the Twins that month. They looked awful, yet made the World Series. 4 years ago Atlanta was under .500 in August and won the World Series. Detroit was 6 games under .500 at this point last season and stayed under .500 until Aug 25th then made the WC and won that series. It's a long season. They are 4 games back from the WC and have 71 to play.

If you trade Ryan or Lopez, who's replacing them next season? Overall the Twins have a mostly young core just entering their prime. Their older players are still in their prime. Like I said, I don't see any significant moves as long as this team is for sale and that would be the right move right now. This is not a blow it up situation.
 


That better not be a broken hand. Hate it for Buxton coming back from where he was to being an all star and being in the HR contest. Guys been so awesome to watch.
 












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upnorthkid said:
yeah i'm not advocating they trade one of their SPs (you need those guys if you're going to have any chance in a postseason series).

On the pitching staff, they've also been horrible at times. I'd hang onto the SPs personally, but can understand them moving one if you get a big deal thrown at you given Ryan and Ober are both in their last years of their deals (IIRC). In the pen, I'd imagine they'll get some looks for Duran as well.

Bux I only bring up because he's finally healthy, hits, defends, and can steal bases, all of which are super valuable in the postseason. He's someone I could see them selling high on given he's healthy and in part because its felt like we've had no interest in trying to spend to contend.

TBH, I'd be 100% ok they're at .500 or so and want to sell out to accumulate talent for once and go for it. I'd imagine they'll mostly stand pat and go with the same roster that will flirt with the postseason. I don't see a dominant ace consistently of our pitchers (though we have some guys who are very good) as you usually see with those WCs that go on a run, or that guy who for whatever reason hits the playoffs and then is lights out (Wheeler for Philly in their last couple runs). Baseball is funny that way though you're totally right in that you just have to get in
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I also think Ryan who could easily have ten wins, has already developed into one of the better starters in the AL - His 3.8 WAR is second only to Skeeball’s 4.5 for pitchers, who wins the Cy Young again, !if he stays healthy. Joe’s got the Fifth best WAR in MLB.

I’d say, at worst, he knocking on the door of the upper echelon club, if he’s not a member already.

Generally speaking, I would never trade good, young SPs which you have under team control, unless you have a plethora of it, aka the Marlins.

You also can’t trade Buck at this point, as he’s too valuable in his team friendly deal and Lewis hasn’t ascended the throne - if he would have stayed healthy and built on the playoff season heroics, then it’s debatable.

Additionally, you’re only three games out of the last playoff spot and the teams in front of us, have holes just like we do.
 
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Gopher_In_NYC said:
I also think Ryan who could easily have ten wins, has already developed into one of the better starters in the AL - His 3.8 WAR is second only to Skeeball’s 4.5 for pitchers, who wins the Cy Young again, !if he stays healthy. Joe’s got the Fifth best WAR in MLB.

I’d say, at worst, he knocking on the door of the upper echelon club, if he’s not a member already.

Generally speaking, I would never trade good, young SPs which you have under team control, unless you have a plethora of it, aka the Marlins.

You also can’t trade Buck at this point, as he’s too valuable in his team friendly deal and Lewis hasn’t ascended the throne - if he would have stayed healthy and built on the playoff season heroics, then it’s debatable.

Additionally, you’re only three games out of the last playoff spot and the teams in front of us, have holes just like we do.
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Yes agreed was in context of recalling incorrectly regarding his deal. Ryan is very good and if they have control for 2 more years as ope pointed out, no you don’t move him. That was my poor memory on his deal thinking it was expiring

Bux only brought up as I think he’s someone you could reasonably get a very very good offer for. We’re all enamored with the concept of a healthy Buxtom as a guy who can crush the ball, defend at a world class level and can play postseason small ball and do things like steal. Think every gm is as well. He’s posting some of his career best numbers and is actually healthy so it’s why I could see someone send big assets for him do I could see it in that sense particularly given his contract. I am not personally advocating for moving him, just feel like he’s one you may actually get the type of assets you can take a good team and put it over the top in a few years based on what you get for him
 



Ope3 said:
I only hopped on the Light Rail for a couple of stops to Henipen/1st Ave. If I didn't know any better I would have thought I had taken the L/Red Line to Addison. More Cubbies attire, probably a 2 to 1 margin.
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I was listening to the TV broadcast as I did yardwork for a few innings. I'd get excited and run to my phone when I heard the crowd roar but then had to remember it was such a pro-Cubs crowd that the cheers were usually for the away team.
 

Gophers1992 said:
I was listening to the TV broadcast as I did yardwork for a few innings. I'd get excited and run to my phone when I heard the crowd roar but then had to remember it was such a pro-Cubs crowd that the cheers were usually for the away team.
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Without a doubt, loudest cheer of the night was Jeffers getting picked off 1st base.
 


upnorthkid said:
Yes agreed was in context of recalling incorrectly regarding his deal. Ryan is very good and if they have control for 2 more years as ope pointed out, no you don’t move him.
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I wouldn’t trade him if he didn’t have two years left. The new ownership group may well ne inclined to spend more cash and pitchers like him aren’t a dime a dozen.
upnorthkid said:
That was my poor memory on his deal thinking it was expiring

Bux only brought up as I think he’s someone you could reasonably get a very very good offer for. We’re all enamored with the concept of a healthy Buxtom as a guy who can crush the ball, defend at a world class level and can play postseason small ball and do things like steal. Think every gm is as well. He’s posting some of his career best numbers and is actually healthy so it’s why I could see someone send big assets for him do I could see it in that sense particularly given his contract. I am not personally advocating for moving him, just feel like he’s one you may actually get the type of assets you can take a good team and put it over the top in a few years based on what you get for him
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I understand your point on Buck and short of a Herschel Walker scenario, it’s a big No for me.

We’re 12 in team dingers now with 106. Take out Buck’s 20 and we fall to 25 and a majority of the teams below 20 aren’t serious playoff contenders.

We have nobody on our roster at this point, who has stayed healthy and produced enough to fit the bill of a 30+ HR threat, which is needed to be a playoff caliber team from my perspective.

Wallner has the ability, but needs to prove itt over a year’s time. Love Larnach’s swing, but he’s a classic gap hitter, who maxs out at 20-25 HRs in a season. Lewis may enter the discussion when he plays 100 games in a season and consistently produces🤷‍♂️
 
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Ope3 said:
While checking out the Paul McCartney Get Back Tour schedule, I got a chuckle out of the Oct 11 date at Coors Field, right in the middle of the MLB Playoffs.

It appears the Rockies management has little faith in a late season run to secure a Wild Card berth thus potentially creating a double booking conflict.
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Saw Sir Paul at Yankee Stadium Stadium ~10 years ago, and played for 2.5 hours😃.

To hear that catalogue live was transcendent🤠
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Gopher_In_NYC said:
Saw Sir Paul at Yankee Stadium Stadium ~10 years ago, and played for 2.5 hours😃.

To hear that catalogue live was transcendent🤠
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I've seen him three times:

1991 - Trice Stadium / Ames, IA
1992 - HHH Dome
2015 - Target Field

The 2 outdoor shows were phenomenal. Indoors, still good, but underwhelming.

I'm not sure I will do this one, just a pretty substandard concert venue, for the dough it's going to cost for tickets.

If anything, more likely to attempt a run at the Des Moines show.
 

Ope3 said:
I've seen him three times:

1991 - Trice Stadium / Ames, IA
1992 - HHH Dome
2015 - Target Field

The 2 outdoor shows were phenomenal. Indoors, still good, but underwhelming.

I'm not sure I will do this one, just a pretty substandard concert venue, for the dough it's going to cost for tickets.

If anything, more likely to attempt a run at the Des Moines show.
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You can’t beat an outdoor concert
 


Gopher_In_NYC said:
You can’t beat an outdoor concert
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Concert technology has come a long way since Paul's previous band just stuck a stage at 2nd Base with a few speakers around it at places like Shea/The Met/Candlestick circa '65-'66. Downright laughable.
 


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