Future Gopher Coach Discussion

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Yeah, but not due to his actual date of birth. It’s out of the ordinary that someone born in March of 07 to be a junior whereas it’s common for someone born in August. Regardless Moe/Motzko made the decision to accelerate and was obviously part of a plan. Would some random CHLer really make more sense?
 

2/3 of your Gopher hockey staff for 2026-27

"Quinnipiac assistant coach Rick Bennett is headed to University of Maine to join Ben Barr's staff

Bennett and Barr go way back. At Union, they were Nate Leaman's assistants from 2008 to 2011'
 

Nightengale extension as MSU to 5 year rolling deal. They didn't release the dollar amount. Great decision by MSU to lock up the guy who's brought them back on the national scene, but I'd assume the crowd here hates him because he lost in the first round last year as a 1 seed and in the regional the year before as a 1 seed plus he's never even won the WJC as a coach /s

In reality, he's a home run hire there as he played there, is young, and having been the former U17 coach, he's going to have a built in pipeline there for seemingly as long as he wants it and keeps recruiting NTDP kids (and probably still to a lesser extent over at SSM due to his prior coaching there).
 

Knowing that Carle is not touchable, I'd rank them Nightengale, Barr, Firschweiler
 



I don't know what he's making, but I'd have to think we can pay more than MSU for a hockey coach
 


If we do go for a new coach, we should look for someone with a high level of recent success. Like being in two frozen fours and winning 3 conference titles in the last four years.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
If we do go for a new coach, we should look for someone with a high level of recent success. Like being in two frozen fours and winning 3 conference titles in the last four years.
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If you never want to actually win the last one
 





If you are wondering why Motzko needs to go, listen to the 10-15 minutes starting at about 2:16:45 with his views on NIL and how it's clear he is hurting the program.
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Summer 2025

Nick Angell and Eric Brever will join us to talk about NIL and how a new collective is hopefully coming soon! We will also get in to all of the recruiting up...
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bonin21 said:
If you are wondering why Motzko needs to go, listen to the 10-15 minutes starting at about 2:16:45 with his views on NIL and how it's clear he is hurting the program.
www.youtube.com

Summer 2025

Nick Angell and Eric Brever will join us to talk about NIL and how a new collective is hopefully coming soon! We will also get in to all of the recruiting up...
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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0% got that impression. Do I personally think having a GM is the way of the future? Absolutely. That said, it’s all how you want to “structure” their roles and your ACs. Vegoe discusses it pretty well.

Personally I would like us to recruit Canada more, but not at the expense of MN kids. It’s a tough balance. If it turns out they’re not even attempting to talk to the cream of the crop of each league, then yeah that’s a problem. Those kids go everywhere though and most of the eastern ones don’t even set foot anywhere past Michigan
 



upnorthkid said:
0% got that impression. Do I personally think having a GM is the way of the future? Absolutely. That said, it’s all how you want to “structure” their roles and your ACs. Vegoe discusses it pretty well.

Personally I would like us to recruit Canada more, but not at the expense of MN kids. It’s a tough balance. If it turns out they’re not even attempting to talk to the cream of the crop of each league, then yeah that’s a problem. Those kids go everywhere though and most of the eastern ones don’t even set foot anywhere past Michigan
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Not just the GM part. The part about Bob rejecting the importance of NIL
 

bonin21 said:
Not just the GM part. The part about Bob rejecting the importance of NIL
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Last year I’d buy it. I didn’t take it that way personally but can see where one might. The U across the board has been slow on the uptake on NIL. Seemed like Angell alluded to things are different and he’s been pretty frank with Bob and the staff that things are different and mentioned specifically the staff have been receptive to that.

Always hard to say for sure as it is GPL and not a pretty rare they’re going to be overtly negative, but to me I think Bob is going to take a backseat on NIL and let the collective do their thing, which is exactly what I’d want forward as selling a package is going to come a lot better from a player who can balance what Bob can do to coach you up, the mentor network of former players, and hey here’s these deals I see working for you with way better nuance than a coach ever can (Bob or any coach aside). Think we all agree Bob ain’t the worlds greatest salesman lol

Cautiously optimistic with the very early return. None of them were “reaches” and they’re going to have to had put together some kind of package to sell them as it’s not like they were only getting recruited by the U. If you want to try view it that NIL isn’t involved, then I guess it’s a massive selling point of how much weight the M carries in the state still
 

upnorthkid said:
Cautiously optimistic with the very early return. None of them were “reaches” and they’re going to have to had put together some kind of package to sell them as it’s not like they were only getting recruited by the U. If you want to try view it that NIL isn’t involved, then I guess it’s a massive selling point of how much weight the M carries in the state still
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Yes, none of those Minnesotans needed any significant NIL to stay home. We need NIL for the superstar non-Minnesotans.

Will check back in the next time we get a first round draft pick non-Minnesotan, especially top 15 picks, cuz those would be NIL.
 

bonin21 said:
Yes, none of those Minnesotans needed any significant NIL to stay home. We need NIL for the superstar non-Minnesotans.

Will check back in the next time we get a first round draft pick non-Minnesotan, especially top 15 picks, cuz those would be NIL.
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if you think the MN kids aren't getting significant NIL, you are painfully naive. They all know this. Was a big part of what they put together for Jimmy to keep him another year on top of his desire. Burns has been all over saying it. Angell is all over saying it. Whether the coaches say that audibly or not, it's going to be part of the visits for all these guys. M pride will get you in the door, but as they allude to, but you still need to be competitive.

there's what like 4 guys who are top 15 playing from this year's draft in the NCAA? just a crazy small selection to try hang your hat on for your argument that you'll be proven right on purely from the sake of the rarity regardless of the NIL we have or don't have
 

upnorthkid said:
if you think the MN kids aren't getting significant NIL, you are painfully naive. They all know this. Was a big part of what they put together for Jimmy to keep him another year on top of his desire. Burns has been all over saying it. Angell is all over saying it. Whether the coaches say that audibly or not, it's going to be part of the visits for all these guys. M pride will get you in the door, but as they allude to, but you still need to be competitive.
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Outside of Snuggerud, I'd wager money on the rest of the Minnesotans on the roster getting barely anything. No Minnesotan on the roster this year is getting 50K or probably even 25K.
 

bonin21 said:
Outside of Snuggerud, I'd wager money on the rest of the Minnesotans on the roster getting barely anything. No Minnesotan on the roster this year is getting 50K or probably even 25K.
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ok? talking about kids who committed forever ago before NIL was even a thing and comparing to guys committing now, particularly in era of rev sharing (which in theory if they're getting 5% of 21mil, that's about 1mil split amongst 26 players which is about 40k), is a very different animal. Clearly there is NIL going around. Literally just pointed it out.

Year to year is going to be variable based on who is rostered and what interest is there from businesses. This year yeah there's not someone who's a headliner. Totally fine to hold your NIL of what you have and not just throw money at guys who are already here?

PSU makes up for it with Pegula. Supposedly they're giving much less rev sharing to hockey. Lots of different ways for this to trickle to the student athlete as part of their "package"
 

bonin21 said:
Not just the GM part. The part about Bob rejecting the importance of NIL
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I see you didn't mention when Nick Angel and the Attorney on the podcast said that Coach Motzko is adaptive and on board with the NIL situation. Coach even talked about it to the 140 Alumni. But, I can understand why you didn't mention it is because you are such a Motzko hater and rip on the program any chance you get.
 
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pinball said:
I see you didn't mention when Nick Angel and the Attorney on the podcast said that Coach Motzko is adaptive and on board with the NIL situation. Coach even talked about it to the 140 Alumni. But, I can understand why you didn't mention it is because you are such a Motzko hater and rip on the program any chance you get.
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He accepted it too late. When asked if he thought he could get a Cooley or Knies in the NIL era he... didn't give an answer.

Even if he accepts it, there is not enough money to compete with Pegula and Magic Johnson. Period. No matter who the coach is.
 

bonin21 said:
He accepted it too late. When asked if he thought he could get a Cooley or Knies in the NIL era he... didn't give an answer.

Even if he accepts it, there is not enough money to compete with Pegula and Magic Johnson. Period. No matter who the coach is.
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I agree as of now, PSU and Michigan State has some serious donors contributing to their programs. In another thread you said the Gopher don't have any NIL money but now you are saying there is not enough money. which is it, no money or not enough money?
You want to get rid of Motzko because of the NIL but now you saying it doesn't matter who the coach is. But, atleast your favorite teams (Michigan, Michigan State and Boston U) should be really good this year.
 

pinball said:
I agree as of now, PSU and Michigan State has some serious donors contributing to their programs. In another thread you said the Gopher don't have any NIL money but now you are saying there is not enough money. which is it, no money or not enough money?
You want to get rid of Motzko because of the NIL but now you saying it doesn't matter who the coach is. But, atleast your favorite teams (Michigan, Michigan State and Boston U) should be really good this year.
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I want to get rid of Motzko because he's too old and is not going to bring a championship.
 

bonin21 said:
I want to get rid of Motzko because he's too old and is not going to bring a championship.
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Yeah, let's get rid of a top 10 collegiate coach, world junior coach (again), has won Big Ten Championships, runs a clean program, respected by his coaching peers, etc.. If you are so sure he is not going to win a championship why do you follow the program?
If the program ever sinks to the level of the last few years of Coach Woog's or Lucia's era I would agree with you. But, we are nowhere near that level now.
 
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pinball said:
Yeah, let's get rid of a 10 ten collegiate coach, world junior coach (again), has won Big Ten Championships, runs a clean program, respected by his coaching peers, etc.. If you are so sure he is not going to win a championship why do you follow the program?
If the program ever sinks to the level of the last few years of Coach Woog's or Lucia's era I would agree with you. But, we are nowhere near that level now.
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I follow the program because it's bigger than him. I am just gonna wait this year out, try to sell my FF tickets to at least break even, and hope the new era starts next spring.
 

bonin21 said:
I follow the program because it's bigger than him. I am just gonna wait this year out, try to sell my FF tickets to at least break even, and hope the new era starts next spring.
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You said the program is bigger than Coach Motzko but you are waiting this year out. So, by waiting this year out you are quitting on the program which according to you is bigger than the coach.
I guess we won't see any posts from you until next year.
 
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pinball said:
Yeah, let's get rid of a 10 ten collegiate coach, world junior coach (again), has won Big Ten Championships, runs a clean program, respected by his coaching peers, etc.. If you are so sure he is not going to win a championship why do you follow the program?
If the program ever sinks to the level of the last few years of Coach Woog's or Lucia's era I would agree with you. But, we are nowhere near that level now.
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When the U hires a GM for the mens hockey team, Bonin21 should apply. He is clearly a master of building a roster of 5 star players and I'm sure he will be a leader in the NIL fundraising with all of his brilliant ideas. He also is a PP mastermind and must be fairly young as he thinks Bob is over the hill. They will have to expand Mariucci to make room for all of the National Titles they will win.
 

pinball said:
You said the program is bigger than Coach Motzko but you are waiting this year out. So, by waiting this year out you are quitting on the program which according to you is bigger than the coach.
I guess we won't see any posts from you until next year.
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I'm gonna watch the games as a lot of the players will be around for new coach's first year, whether that's next year as it should be or the year after that.

I just know it's going to be a long year compared to watching contenders.
 

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