All Things 2025 Minnesota Timberwolves Off-Season Thread

I think Durant is a real good fit for what they need right now.
But not at any of the rumored compensation and not at that salary.
 

HELL NO! He's declining, has zero defense, and is always hurt with something.

If the Wolves do this, it will be the move that signals the end of the Anthony Edwards era.

It will be a catastrophic mistake that will ruin the team for a long time.
think the idea is he gets to come in and be your scoring option who doesn't have to do much, rests frequently, and you're trying to ride him when you need it in the postseason for spacing.

As far as his defense, he actually is relatively highly rated previously defensively when looked at in isolation. its really hard to know what to do with his time in Phoenix as that team defense was abysmal with no inside presence (Durant has led them in blocks the last 2 years).

That said I want nothing to do with the trade at the dollar mark it its coming with and for 3 years. It's dumb and falling in love with a name, which gives him way more trade value that he's not worth at this point in his career. If he's closer to 40, way different story but at 60 it's going to hamstring the rest of the roster when you're going to still need a 3rd scorer unless you think somehow that's Jaden
 







Odd move by Memphis.
disagree. blow it up if you're memphis. they're a long way from contending. bane is a nice secondary piece but not your star guy. if you want to argue that the picks won't be worth a ton and KCPs contract sucks, yeah that's true but i'd envision they're a ok with being in the lottery next year and trying to rebuild (at least that's what I'd be doing with that roster unless you were going to go all in to add)
 




Last I read about Durant is that he wants to go to a team with no state income tax.
Latest on Gianni’s is that if OKc wins they stand pat - if they lose, they’re all in for him, as if they can’t beat Indy this year, it’ll only be tougher sleeding in the future!!!
 
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I didn't think Bane was anywhere near worth four first round picks. Craziness.
Unprotected is nuts! what if something goes crazy like Pablo tears his ACL.

Unprotected firsts for Bane is nuts.

It also shows you what people think of draft picks in the NBA
 

Per Shooter:

— The Timberwolves, who have little money to spend, need a point guard. Tyus Jones, 29, the former Apple Valley star, played this season for the NBA minimum $2.1 million for the Phoenix Suns, averaging 10.2 points and 5.3 assists while shooting 41.4 percent from three-point range. He’s a free agent who probably would cost the Wolves only the same minimum next season.


Howl Wolves!!
 



HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on Tyus Jones

He got benched in phoenix, has no explosion, etc.

Now as a backup to Dillingham, I can listen.
 



Which I"m fine with.......but again, why does he get to choose where he goes.

This is a big NBA problem.
Why would any team trade valuable assets for a player refusing to sign an extension with them?

PHO can trade him anywhere they want to but they'll get a better return from a team confident that they will have his services for three (3) years compared to just one (1).
 

Why would any team trade valuable assets for a player refusing to sign an extension with them?

PHO can trade him anywhere they want to but they'll get a better return from a team confident that they will have his services for three (3) years compared to just one (1).
Well, the wolves wouldn't trade for him if he doesn't sign an extension.

This is the best thing ever.
 


Well, the wolves wouldn't trade for him if he doesn't sign an extension.

This is the best thing ever.
You asked why KD gets to choose where he's traded to and I answered. I'd rather go after a PG if we're using valuable assets so I'm glad we're apparently out of the running.
 

Fans vastly overrate NBA 1st round draft picks.
Especially when they come from a young, talented team that will have their picks in the 20's like ORL. Up to this point, UTA has very little to show for their return in the Gobert trade.
 

You asked why KD gets to choose where he's traded to and I answered. I'd rather go after a PG if we're using valuable assets so I'm glad we're apparently out of the running.
I get the sense if he was signed for 3 more years and he said he doesn't want to go to Minnesota, then Phoenix would take us off the list.
 

I get the sense if he was signed for 3 more years and he said he doesn't want to go to Minnesota, then Phoenix would take us off the list.
It's always possible but if we were offering the best deal, PHO would take that deal regardless of what KD wants and get him an Uber to the airport.

You are correct, though...KD is controlling his eventual destination by discouraging the other teams from bidding on a guy playing on an Expiring contract.
 

Especially when they come from a young, talented team that will have their picks in the 20's like ORL. Up to this point, UTA has very little to show for their return in the Gobert trade.
They were.500 this year playing the worst division in basketball and are now right against the apron with banchero due his likely max extension next year. Banchero is good, but he’s nowhere near a top 10 guy to build around. Question is going to be if they keep building. The piece was higher because it offloaded the awful kcp contract

Id feel happy with the trade if im Memphis as they’re so far from contending and you need extra picks to try increase your hit rate and they need to rebuild how their new coach wants and this will hasten that process. Bane is a fringe all star caliber, not a DPOY. The Rudy cost was high, but this was over the top in a year the market actually has taken a step back, which made this get pricier as the draft looks weak

Edit to add clarification. Just on the fringe all star meaning, he’s not say the top tier of guys who will carry their team and be locks to make it. But he’s going to add to that team significantly as he can get his and spaced the floor super well which you need with Banchero. To Orlando, they’re assuming the cost gets them winning series in the postseason. Probably pretty reasonable with how awful the middle of the eastern conf is
 
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They were.500 this year playing the worst division in ballerina and are now right against the apron with banchero due his likely max extension next year. Banchero is good, but he’s nowhere near a top 10 guy to build around. Question is going to be if they keep building. The piece was higher because it offloaded the awful kcp contract

Id feel happy with the trade if im Memphis as they’re so far from contending and you need extra picks to try increase your hit rate and they need to rebuild how their new coach wants and this will hasten that process. Bane is a fringe all star caliber, not a DPOY. The Rudy cost was high, but this was over the top in a year the market actually has taken a step back, which made this get pricier as the draft looks weak
Orlando is looking at the east and sees it as wide open.

Banchero missed half the season, Suggs was out, and Wagner was out.

They should all be back.

Boston is toast, Giannis is probably gone, the Knicks are blah, and Indiana, while good, hit every buzzer beater known to man. Cleveland just doesn't do it in the playoffs.

Orlando sees a big opening and is going for it. I get it, but I can't believe the picks are unprotected.
 

Orlando is looking at the east and sees it as wide open.

Banchero missed half the season, Suggs was out, and Wagner was out.

They should all be back.

Boston is toast, Giannis is probably gone, the Knicks are blah, and Indiana, while good, hit every buzzer beater known to man. Cleveland just doesn't do it in the playoffs.

Orlando sees a big opening and is going for it. I get it, but I can't believe the picks are unprotected.
no for sure. More just meaning its not like they were a 2-3 seed and now lock into contending for a 1 (though they may with how bad the east is).

I appreciate their willingness to go for it. The picks I agree with probably all end up in the mid 1st round, but Bane for 4 1st rounders is still a hell of a haul and you've gotta keep the band together then if you're Orlando (which is going to mean paying well into the luxury tax).

As far as the comments on the east, Boston's whole team is back again minus Tatum (as of now). They'll be middling regular season but I'll taken Tatum/Brown over anything else the east has to offer. Saying Cleveland "just doesn't do it" when this is the core group fully hitting their prime seems short sighted, particularly when Garland and Mitchell were both hurt (when its the same argument you'd have to make for Orlando and given to also say they don't do it because they lost a "lucky" Indy team that hinged on a Hali 3).

Again I think they'll absolutely be a contender in the east as long as they're willing to pay for it. This is the last year it'll be "cheap" before Banchero and M. Wagner need their extensions and you've already got $105mil in Suggs, Bane, and F Wagner tied up until 28-29.
 

They were.500 this year playing the worst division in ballerina and are now right against the apron with banchero due his likely max extension next year. Banchero is good, but he’s nowhere near a top 10 guy to build around. Question is going to be if they keep building. The piece was higher because it offloaded the awful kcp contract

Id feel happy with the trade if im Memphis as they’re so far from contending and you need extra picks to try increase your hit rate and they need to rebuild how their new coach wants and this will hasten that process. Bane is a fringe all star caliber, not a DPOY. The Rudy cost was high, but this was over the top in a year the market actually has taken a step back, which made this get pricier as the draft looks weak

Edit to add clarification. Just on the fringe all star meaning, he’s not say the top tier of guys who will carry their team and be locks to make it. But he’s going to add to that team significantly as he can get his and spaced the floor super well which you need with Banchero. To Orlando, they’re assuming the cost gets them winning series in the postseason. Probably pretty reasonable with how awful the middle of the eastern conf is
If ORL can just stay healthy, they have a really nice core of players. Banchero, Franz Wagner, Bane, Suggs, Isaac and Black can be a Top 4 team in the ECF.

Either way, I'm glad to see MEM get weaker in our Conference. I wouldn't be stunned if they also try to move Morant or JJJ.
 

They were.500 this year playing the worst division in ballerina and are now right against the apron with banchero due his likely max extension next year. Banchero is good, but he’s nowhere near a top 10 guy to build around.

I'm not so sure of that. Not many 22 year olds average 26/8/5 in their 3rd NBA season, and the ones who did were elite players for a long time.
 

I'm not so sure of that. Not many 22 year olds average 26/8/5 in their 3rd NBA season, and the ones who did were elite players for a long time.
Very fair point. if you're saying best "young" talent, then yes he's undoubtedly a top 10 guy (probably top 3-5; lots of fun young talent under 25 with Ant, Wemby, Cunningham, Mobley, Williams). He's a year younger than Ant. He will be a really good player for a long time, more meaning not a top 10 guy I'm building around to win right now/this year (and coupled with the shit show the NBA has become where you almost need your star guys to be able to shoot from outside unless you're Giannis). Should've written that more explicitly.

Will be telling this year to see what he becomes in if he develops his playmaking or if he keeps taking inefficient shots too frequently so he becomes that top 10 guy or if he kind stagnates in that 20-30 range. He needs to finally stay healthy (don't think he'll end up like Zion and be injured for forever, which is crazy Zion is only 24). Orlando will be a team to watch for the next 3-4 years on if it comes together or not and fills that post C's window that currently is open in the East
 
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There are quite a few reports from credible NBA sources that PHO considers the offer from MIN to be the best by a wide margin.

The deal is centered around Gobert, DDV and Dilly for KD and the Suns are trying to convince him to reconsider going to MIN.

Who would play C? What are we doing at PG? This type of move would create more issues than it would solve. Weird stuff if true.
 




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