Les Miles was accused of texting LSU female students, taking them to his condo alone, making them feel uncomfortable

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The university also ordered him to stop hiring student employees to babysit, cease being alone with them, and attend eight, one-hour sessions with an attorney and pay for it out of his own pocket.

If Miles repeated his behavior, the school said in the letter, he would lose his job and violate his contract.
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Hope he doesn't get cancelled....
 





Kansas obviously has the ammo it needs now.

Hopefully it does the right thing ........... and hires Craig Bohl!
 




Ogee Oglethorpe said:
People with money and immense power... doesn't always go well. Okay, it often doesn't go well...
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Very true. They are typically think of themselves. They don't care if it only benefits themselves and hurts others.
 

#2Gopher said:
Very true. They are typically think of themselves. They don't care if it only benefits themselves and hurts others.
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The Fall of the Roman Empire - Greed & diametrical disagreements. The Roman Senate were arguing vigorously inside the chamber when a meek Page tapped on the Caesar's shoulder. "What do you want!", he exhorted. The Page said, "there is a little man on horseback outside. He wants to know your answer..."

Wow - come to think what would have happened had the Gophers hired Les Miles...
 

#2Gopher said:
Very true. They are typically think of themselves. They don't care if it only benefits themselves and hurts others.
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The big change for those people is that in 2021 it is much easier for the people they hurt to get their story out there. Things that would have been totally kept under wraps in the past now become public knowledge due to social media and other outlets.

We see it in coaching all the time. Behaviors that would have been tolerated or even expected by coaches in the past are now viewed (most of the time correctly) as out of line or unacceptable.
 



MplsGopher said:
Kansas obviously has the ammo it needs now.

Hopefully it does the right thing ........... and hires Craig Bohl!
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I don't know; I think forcing Miles to have to coach at Kansas would be a just punishment....

Still hard to believe that less than 15 years ago, they won a BCS bowl & then waxed the Gophs the next year. Perhaps I shouldn't be joking about anybody? Ha ha.
 

MNVCGUY said:
The big change for those people is that in 2021 it is much easier for the people they hurt to get their story out there. Things that would have been totally kept under wraps in the past now become public knowledge due to social media and other outlets.

We see it in coaching all the time. Behaviors that would have been tolerated or even expected by coaches in the past are now viewed (most of the time correctly) as out of line or unacceptable.
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Just like the Press years ago. They used to protect important people (think JFK and his affairs) Now the more dirt they find on anyone, the better. Can you imagine JFK in today's mudslinging environment?
 

FireDaveLee said:
I don't know; I think forcing Miles to have to coach at Kansas would be a just punishment....

Still hard to believe that less than 15 years ago, they won a BCS bowl & then waxed the Gophs the next year. Perhaps I shouldn't be joking about anybody? Ha ha.
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Your post made me think about Mangino getting waxed .....
 

GopherJack said:
Just like the Press years ago. They used to protect important people (think JFK and his affairs) Now the more dirt they find on anyone, the better. Can you imagine JFK in today's mudslinging environment?
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Les Miles was literally drained from The Swamp. It is a different era then and now. Technology has transformed humanity for the good and for the bad. It is interesting times we are living in. Secrecy was a big deal post Red Scare era. They are less far removed from the aftermath of WWII. Seventy-five years to be more exact. There are young people who did not believe that atrocities committed then were real. Now, dirt sells advertisement revenues.
 


A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
OH MY

The AD at LSU wanted to fire Les!

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It's like they tell you on your first day of work these days: "Before you send an email, ask yourself how you would feel hearing it read aloud in a courtroom."
 

SixBySix said:
It's like they tell you on your first day of work these days: "Before you send an email, ask yourself how you would feel hearing it read aloud in a courtroom."
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Haven't heard that before but it makes a lot of sense. I know with my kids I am always emphasizing that anything they say or do online could come back to haunt them at some point in the future so be smart about what you put out there.
 

SixBySix said:
It's like they tell you on your first day of work these days: "Before you send an email, ask yourself how you would feel hearing it read aloud in a courtroom."
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Well in this case I think Joe sent the email ... to pretty much wash his hand of it. He got his opinion on the record, the folks who don't allow Les to get fired are now to blame.
 

Why did this suddenly come out, from 2013?

Couldn't that email have been requested back then or in any year since then?
 

KU be all "man we don't want to be a part of this shit...."


 

I wonder if Les ever partied with Andy Cuomo?
 

MplsGopher said:
Why did this suddenly come out, from 2013?

Couldn't that email have been requested back then or in any year since then?
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So from reading the story it says USA today sued LSU to get the sealed information back in January and Miles just dropped any protest to that figuring it would all come out anyway I guess.

Seems like someone got wind of this having happened back in 2013 and went digging. Story says that Kansas was not aware of the investigation having taken place when they hired Miles.

Based on what is written what he did was certainly a little on the creepy old man side but doesn't rise to a level where he should have his entire reputation destroyed. There is a mention in there of him wanting the student recruiting assistants to be blond and attractive.....nothing ground breaking in that as that was an extremely common practice at pretty much every team before it kind of got clamped down on.

Not excusing him but this feels like some reporters or someone going out of there way to try and find a story to take him down. Maybe more details will come out but from what I read there would be a ton of coaches in the same boat as Miles based on what is there.
 


MNVCGUY said:
So from reading the story it says USA today sued LSU to get the sealed information back in January and Miles just dropped any protest to that figuring it would all come out anyway I guess.

Seems like someone got wind of this having happened back in 2013 and went digging. Story says that Kansas was not aware of the investigation having taken place when they hired Miles.

Based on what is written what he did was certainly a little on the creepy old man side but doesn't rise to a level where he should have his entire reputation destroyed. There is a mention in there of him wanting the student recruiting assistants to be blond and attractive.....nothing ground breaking in that as that was an extremely common practice at pretty much every team before it kind of got clamped down on.

Not excusing him but this feels like some reporters or someone going out of there way to try and find a story to take him down. Maybe more details will come out but from what I read there would be a ton of coaches in the same boat as Miles based on what is there.
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Reporters going out of their way is what a reporter does....

Les is responsible if his actions are bad or not.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Reporters going out of their way is what a reporter does....

Les is responsible if his actions are bad or not.
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Will be interesting to see how Kansas handles this. If Miles has done nothing wrong since being hired there, do they fire him anyway based on actions from 5+ years ago?

Say Kansas does their internal investigation and finds that Miles has had zero incidents of any kind with female staff members and female students. i think if that were the case I would have a real difficult time seeing a justification for them punishing him now for questionable behavior at a different school multiple years ago.

However in the cancel culture we live in now the damage has probably already been done and they won't have a choice as they will have to deal with activist groups trying to destroy Kansas's reputation if they keep him employed.

Will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Will be interesting to see how Kansas handles this. If Miles has done nothing wrong since being hired there, do they fire him anyway based on actions from 5+ years ago?

Say Kansas does their internal investigation and finds that Miles has had zero incidents of any kind with female staff members and female students. i think if that were the case I would have a real difficult time seeing a justification for them punishing him now for questionable behavior at a different school multiple years ago.

However in the cancel culture we live in now the damage has probably already been done and they won't have a choice as they will have to deal with activist groups trying to destroy Kansas's reputation if they keep him employed.

Will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.
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"Cancel culture" isn't a dude facing consequences after being told to stop hitting on the students by his employer. ..and ignoring it.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
"Cancel culture" isn't a dude facing consequences after being told to stop hitting on the students by his employer. ..and ignoring it.
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Honestly I put this as much on LSU as I do on Miles. They clearly didn't care enough about what was happening to potentially disrupt the football program by holding Miles accountable.

But the question still stands in regards to Kansas electing to punish him for actions that didn't happen while he was an employee of Kansas. Should it turn out that he hasn't done anything inappropriate at all while at Kansas.

No clue what the right or wrong answer is in regards to how they should handle it.
 

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