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I agree that the Big Ten was overestimating how much more dangerous playing was than not playing but I don't see what parties in Wuhan have to do what that. China doesn't have a great reputation of reporting the truth and they can fight coronavirus more effectively because they can control their population. Here we can't even get people to avoid intentionally getting/spreading coronavirus. Look at the Cleveland Indians issue for example - they had million dollar contracts and a teammate who had cancer last year and risked all of it to hang out in the city for a night. We're not following the trajectory China is reporting and odds are they aren't either.
 


The ACC will pull the plug within 10 days. Whether the SEC and Big 12 are stubborn enough to plow ahead, we'll see.
 



WriterGoph said:
Honestly, I wish we had just sucked it up and dealt with martial law and total lockdown (much like Italy did) for a freaking month back in March. It would have been well worth it to have college football.
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But it would’ve came back unless we locked down the borders. Not saying we wouldn’t have done that.

Look at New Zealand. Didn’t they just have an outbreak after being isolated for a while?


Vaccine is the only thing that will stop this.
 

MplsGopher said:
But it would’ve came back unless we locked down the borders. Not saying we wouldn’t have done that.

Look at New Zealand. Didn’t they just have an outbreak after being isolated for a while?


Vaccine is the only thing that will stop this.
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You're probably, right. I mean, it would have been super interesting to see how all the "liberty or death" crazies in this country would have reacted to martial law. Pretty much a dream scenario for NRA folks to start shooting.
 

There are currently 7 coronaviruses in the world (including the common cold)
Most people who test positive have similar symptoms as the common cold..
  1. 229E (alpha coronavirus)
  2. NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
  3. OC43 (beta coronavirus)
  4. HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
  5. MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
  6. SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
  7. SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)
None of these coronaviruses have vaccines. Zero.
If they come out with a vaccine for SARS-Cov-2...like Flu vaccines, it likely won't eradicate it, and 2/3 of people polled worldwide say they wont take a vaccine as a vaccine might do more harm than the virus. Therefore, this is here to last and we cannot keep hiding from it. Immune compromised individuals need to continue to do what they did before, keep themselves safe from all kinds of scary diseases and viruses. The rest of us, the only way we'll combat this is to train our bodies to fight it.

Also to note, if we keep hiding from COVID-19, we'll only make our bodies more susceptible to other things, like a potentially record bad influenza season....covid might be the least of our worries.

(just the opinion of a logic thinker)
 



Why does every post need to be about corana? It is survivable for almost everyone except the elderly. I understand there are been a few cases that have are news for any on under 80 of years of age.
 

By the way if anyone was wondering. I'm an independent I voted for Ventura and Barack Obama's first term. I also voted for Trump his first term
 

Cedar Rapids Gopher said:
Why does every post need to be about corana? It is survivable for almost everyone except the elderly. I understand there are been a few cases that have are news for any on under 80 of years of age.
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Politics
 

Gopher028 said:
There are currently 7 coronaviruses in the world (including the common cold)
Most people who test positive have similar symptoms as the common cold..
  1. 229E (alpha coronavirus)
  2. NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
  3. OC43 (beta coronavirus)
  4. HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
  5. MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
  6. SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
  7. SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)
None of these coronaviruses have vaccines. Zero.
If they come out with a vaccine for SARS-Cov-2...like Flu vaccines, it likely won't eradicate it, and 2/3 of people polled worldwide say they wont take a vaccine as a vaccine might do more harm than the virus. Therefore, this is here to last and we cannot keep hiding from it. Immune compromised individuals need to continue to do what they did before, keep themselves safe from all kinds of scary diseases and viruses. The rest of us, the only way we'll combat this is to train our bodies to fight it.

Also to note, if we keep hiding from COVID-19, we'll only make our bodies more susceptible to other things, like a potentially record bad influenza season....covid might be the least of our worries.

(just the opinion of a logic thinker)
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I think I'll follow the logic of medical experts. Read same or similar article: you neglected to mention the first four cause only mild symtoms. Mers and Sars are no where as easily transmitted.

Again, the people bitching the most about no football fall mainly into the camp contributing the most to things being disrupted.
 





Mulligan said:
I think I'll follow the logic of medical experts. Read same or similar article: you neglected to mention the first four cause only mild symtoms. Mers and Sars are no where as easily transmitted.

Again, the people bitching the most about no football fall mainly into the camp contributing the most to things being disrupted.
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MERS killed legit like 10% of people infected, I believe. Burned itself out very quickly in rational countries, as people actually became afraid of dying.

Imagine that in the “live free or die” counties of America. Wiped off the map.
 

LesBolstad said:
That's the spirit! Keep the #VirusPorn going.
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Maybe if your life had been impacted at all by COVID, you wouldn't be such a buffoon. But I guess when the peak of your existence is giving out "Golden Douche Awards" on a message board, you can just plow forward and consider it all a big media conspiracy, huh?
 

WriterGoph said:
Honestly, I wish we had just sucked it up and dealt with martial law and total lockdown (much like Italy did) for a freaking month back in March. It would have been well worth it to have college football.
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The same Italy that has one of the highest deaths per capita in the world? Higher than the US, that Italy?
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
The same Italy that has one of the highest deaths per capita in the world? Higher than the US, that Italy?
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Yes, they also reacted too late but most of those deaths were a product of the outbreak before they went into a strict lockdown.

But really, the point of my post - which you know damn well - was that if we sucked it up and were much stricter in March and April, we could be having different conversations now.
 

Gopher028 said:
There are currently 7 coronaviruses in the world (including the common cold)
Most people who test positive have similar symptoms as the common cold..
  1. 229E (alpha coronavirus)
  2. NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
  3. OC43 (beta coronavirus)
  4. HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
  5. MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
  6. SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
  7. SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)
None of these coronaviruses have vaccines. Zero.
If they come out with a vaccine for SARS-Cov-2...like Flu vaccines, it likely won't eradicate it, and 2/3 of people polled worldwide say they wont take a vaccine as a vaccine might do more harm than the virus. Therefore, this is here to last and we cannot keep hiding from it. Immune compromised individuals need to continue to do what they did before, keep themselves safe from all kinds of scary diseases and viruses. The rest of us, the only way we'll combat this is to train our bodies to fight it.

Also to note, if we keep hiding from COVID-19, we'll only make our bodies more susceptible to other things, like a potentially record bad influenza season....covid might be the least of our worries.

(just the opinion of a logic thinker)
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This post I hope is a joke, sarcasm or meant to rile normal folks up.
If not it is the antithesis of logic.
 

Gopher028 said:
There are currently 7 coronaviruses in the world (including the common cold)
Most people who test positive have similar symptoms as the common cold..
  1. 229E (alpha coronavirus)
  2. NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
  3. OC43 (beta coronavirus)
  4. HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
  5. MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
  6. SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
  7. SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)
None of these coronaviruses have vaccines. Zero.
If they come out with a vaccine for SARS-Cov-2...like Flu vaccines, it likely won't eradicate it, and 2/3 of people polled worldwide say they wont take a vaccine as a vaccine might do more harm than the virus. Therefore, this is here to last and we cannot keep hiding from it. Immune compromised individuals need to continue to do what they did before, keep themselves safe from all kinds of scary diseases and viruses. The rest of us, the only way we'll combat this is to train our bodies to fight it.

Also to note, if we keep hiding from COVID-19, we'll only make our bodies more susceptible to other things, like a potentially record bad influenza season....covid might be the least of our worries.

(just the opinion of a logic thinker)
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I'm not going to address the rest of the silly in this post, just the common cold. The only reason we don't have vaccines for strains of the common cold is that there is simply no reason to invest the time and money to combat such a benign and short-lived virus.
 

MplsGopher said:
But it would’ve came back unless we locked down the borders. Not saying we wouldn’t have done that.

Look at New Zealand. Didn’t they just have an outbreak after being isolated for a while?


Vaccine is the only thing that will stop this.
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A total lock down would have included borders. Has to be coupled with a lot of testing with quick turnaround to effectively do contact tracing and keep the spread low. It was possible. Much will be taken away good and bad from this pandemic to help when the next one hits...
 
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Did I miss something?

Are we playing in China?

Is that how we make decisions now?

We monitor a specific Chinese theme park to decide what to do?

Could this be the dumbest thread since heating coyles were removed?
 

Cedar Rapids Gopher said:
Why does every post need to be about corana? It is survivable for almost everyone except the elderly. I understand there are been a few cases that have are news for any on under 80 of years of age.
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Because this thread has it as a topic? Maybe?
 


kisarazu said:
I'm not going to address the rest of the silly in this post, just the common cold. The only reason we don't have vaccines for strains of the common cold is that there is simply no reason to invest the time and money to combat such a benign and short-lived virus.
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And MERS only hit in like 2015 I believe. But it fizzled out relatively quickly. Killed too many, too fast. People actually feared for their lives and took reasonable precautions.

Still, efforts were underway to make a vaccine for it. The Russian vaccine at least, probably others, came from work that had been going on since then to make a vaccine for MERS. Simply, in normal times, where there isn't pandemic urgency, it takes 10+ years to develop a new vaccine.

With unprecedented urgency, attention, and investment, and a headstart from other ongoing work on coronavirus vaccines, the world was drastically able to speed things up.
 

Cedar Rapids Gopher said:
Why does every post need to be about corana? It is survivable for almost everyone except the elderly. I understand there are been a few cases that have are news for any on under 80 of years of age.
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Hey, no need to let us know you voted Trump. It's already clear you did after trying to read whatever the last sentence above is supposed to be. 😘
 

WriterGoph said:
Yes, they also reacted too late but most of those deaths were a product of the outbreak before they went into a strict lockdown.

But really, the point of my post - which you know damn well - was that if we sucked it up and were much stricter in March and April, we could be having different conversations now.
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You mean like change everyone's lives by shutting everything non-essential down, and destroying the economy for nearly two months? That happened, it didn't stop the virus.

This was supposed to be stay at home for just two weeks in order to slow the spread to those 65+ so we don't overwhelm the hospitals. That happened, and hospitals were never overwhelmed across 99% of the country. Places that setup temporary facilities, never used them.

Then the narrative changed to we need to keep destroying peoples businesses, lives, and the economy until there is a vaccine. This after the data continues to show this disease still isn't a threat to more than 99% of young people, and 65+ are the most at risk. That was the same story on day one.

So you're right, we should be having different conversations now. We go back to normal as soon as the media starts discussing the real data and who's really at risk, and not continuing to use fear tactics by suggesting we need to lock down again or wait for a vaccine.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
You mean like change everyone's lives by shutting everything non-essential down, and destroying the economy for nearly two months? That happened, it didn't stop the virus.

This was supposed to be stay at home for just two weeks in order to slow the spread to those 65+ so we don't overwhelm the hospitals. That happened, and hospitals were never overwhelmed across 99% of the country. Places that setup temporary facilities, never used them.

Then the narrative changed to we need to keep destroying peoples businesses, lives, and the economy until there is a vaccine. This after the data continues to show this disease still isn't a threat to more than 99% of young people, and 65+ are the most at risk. That was the same story on day one.

So you're right, we should be having different conversations now. We go back to normal as soon as the media starts discussing the real data and who's really at risk, and not continuing to use fear tactics by suggesting we need to lock down again or wait for a vaccine.
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Lots of false stuff in your post. I know people who work in hospitals in a few different areas of the country and they definitely were overwhelmed and had many extra COVID units.

But again, we NEVER locked down that stringently. There was never paperwork required to leave your house. There were never scheduled windows for weekly grocery store trips. People could move at will with any excuse. It took months for a lot of the country to start wearing masks. Hell, I was in Missouri last week and literally 99% of people were not wearing masks. Even in restaurants the staff didn't have masks on (which I had not seen in any other state, but I imagine it's like that the more red the state is). On top of that, we had states starting to re-open too early in April (and we've seen how that worked out).

So quit acting like the US took these amazingly extreme measures. At least half the states have been very much behind the curve compared to what measures the countries who were smart put in place.
 

GWG wanted Sweden's approach. All the fellas on OTB did. They creamed their pants at it.

They would've been very happy letting 500k Americans die, so that people could go to bars and restaurants without (government mandated) mask requirements -- unless the business mandated it, that's fine of course.

All those extra deaths, economy still would've been broken until the vaccine came. Herd immunity was always a mirage, most people weren't/aren't willing to risk getting infected naturally.
 

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