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I saw someone else have us at #5 before the VA Tech opening. They had Minnesota ahead of Maryland and UCF.

I am surprised VA Tech is ahead of South Carolina in this ranking.
 

While VA Tech is a good job you're high if you think it's better than Miami or South Carolina. A good recruiter can win at Miami with the amount of talent in their backyard.
1)USC 2) Miami 3) South Carolina 4) VA Tech 5) Maryland 6) Illinois 7) Minnesota 8) UCF 9) Hawaii 10) N. Texas
I put Illinois ahead of us because a good coach should be able to get some talent out of Chicago and St. Louis areas. Although with the new village breaking ground, the gap is certainly closing. The top seven can win on a consistent basis with the right guy. If it can be done at Wisconsin and Iowa it can be done at Illinois and Minnesota. The top two they don't have an excuse for losing with the athletes they have in their backyards.
 

Personally, I'd rank them: 1) USC, 2) South Carolina, 3) Miami, 4) Virginia Tech, 5) Minnesota, 6) Maryland, 7) Illinois, 8) UCF , 9) North Texas, 10) Hawaii. Although, who wouldn't want to live and work in Hawaii?
 

I don't see the Miami job as being equal to South Carolina because there are problems with institutional support. I question Va Tech being in the #2 position for anyone except Bud Foster. Following a coaching legend is never easy, Bud is likely to perform similarly to Frank Solich at Nebraska, if Va Tech is smart enough to retain him. Maryland is about right because it has the potential to be Oregon East in the right hands.
 


We have to be #5 with the new facilities and the momentum of the program in general. Minneapolis is a vibrant city...that has to be a selling point as well which could put us ahead of Miami (Coral Gables is pretty gross).
 

Va-Tech has much more support from fans/alums than Miami. I'd say the ACC is easier to win than the SEC, so I can see it above South Carolina.
 

Post #3 in this thread has the correct order. UCF above Minnesota? Asinine.
 

bemidjigopher said:
While VA Tech is a good job you're high if you think it's better than Miami or South Carolina. A good recruiter can win at Miami with the amount of talent in their backyard.
1)USC 2) Miami 3) South Carolina 4) VA Tech 5) Maryland 6) Illinois 7) Minnesota 8) UCF 9) Hawaii 10) N. Texas
I put Illinois ahead of us because a good coach should be able to get some talent out of Chicago and St. Louis areas. Although with the new village breaking ground, the gap is certainly closing. The top seven can win on a consistent basis with the right guy. If it can be done at Wisconsin and Iowa it can be done at Illinois and Minnesota. The top two they don't have an excuse for losing with the athletes they have in their backyards.
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If you flip 2 and 3 I'd agree. Miami's lack of an on campus stadium and lack of support from the administration make it less attractive than SC.
 



...but I expect MN to be the first to fill.
 

nsmike said:
If you flip 2 and 3 I'd agree. Miami's lack of an on campus stadium and lack of support from the administration make it less attractive than SC.
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I see your points, but I give Miami the edge because the ridiculous amount of homegrown talent in the Miami Dade area. While South Carolina is in the SEC, has a lot of support, it's a tougher place to win at than Miami. Miami won big inspite of them shelves in the 80's 90's and 2000's. As for Minnesota. Seven isn't a slight, I ranked them based on if all ten of these schools are maximizing their resources. At any given time Minnesota can hang with any of these schools if there maximizing their resources and the other schools are not. Right now we are a better program than Maryland and Illinois.
 

Derhey said:
We have to be #5 with the new facilities and the momentum of the program in general. Minneapolis is a vibrant city...that has to be a selling point as well which could put us ahead of Miami (Coral Gables is pretty gross).
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Maryland is getting new facilities too and they are ahead of us on that front. Better in-state and surrounding talent too.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Post #3 in this thread has the correct order. UCF above Minnesota? Asinine.
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Agree with you on UCF. I guess the only argument for UCF over MN is expectations vs. potential. UCF expects to be competitive in the AAC. MN is expecting to compete for a B1G title. UCF has a much better local recruiting base, even though it's diluted into so many other schools (Florida, FSU, Miami, not to mention the smaller FL schools and non-Florida SEC/ACC schools). I would think MN would pay much better and is a higher profile job, but may have more longevity at UCF.

That said, I think any coach that thinks they're ready for prime time would easily choose MN over UCF. Only a coach that thinks they need seasoning before going to the next level would choose UCF.

IL and MN I would flip a coin. I don't see one as being inherently better than the other. As far as Chicago recruiting, Champaign is not much closer to Chicago than Madison is. Plus you are competing with the Golden Domers for the studs. Not to mention Northern IL for the mid-tier players. And every other school, since it's a major metropolitan area there's lots of press for the HS teams. With the newer facilities soon, MN could have the advantage.
 



Derhey said:
We have to be #5 with the new facilities and the momentum of the program in general. Minneapolis is a vibrant city...that has to be a selling point as well which could put us ahead of Miami (Coral Gables is pretty gross).
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Miami has an outrageous recruiting advantage over us, is warm weather, and their program has more clout. The amount of talent nearby combined with their history and amount of players in the NFL makes that job vastly superior.

UCF on the other hand? Get out of here.
 

The Lorax said:
Miami has an outrageous recruiting advantage over us, is warm weather, and their program has more clout. The amount of talent nearby combined with their history and amount of players in the NFL makes that job vastly superior.

UCF on the other hand? Get out of here.
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Agreed. I just think the school is in a crappy area but they do attract the thugs, so that works for Miami.
 

mkAz said:
Personally, I'd rank them: 1) USC, 2) South Carolina, 3) Miami, 4) Virginia Tech, 5) Minnesota, 6) Maryland, 7) Illinois, 8) UCF , 9) North Texas, 10) Hawaii. Although, who wouldn't want to live and work in Hawaii?
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This is the correct order IMHO. Maybe you put Maryland ahead of Minnesota if you are considering the AD situation and not just what the next 5-10 years looks like for coaching candidates. The huge advantage Minnesota has over Maryland is being in the B1G West where there is a legitimate shot to compete for division titles with just competent coaching and average players. As long as Maryland has to go through Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan State it's going to be tough to make headway.

I personally struggle with where to rank Miami. The talent available to that program, keeps the ceiling high but so many factors are also going against that school. In some ways, even though the strengths/weaknesses are totally different, Miami reminds me of Nebraska in that I am not sure they can ever get back to what their hardcore fans view them as (every year powerhouses). If the expectations are to get back to Jimmy Johnson (or early Larry Coker) type program then I am not sure that job is that appealing. I'd still probably rank it where it is due to upside, but its probably the shakiest job in terms of potential job security.
 

mkAz said:
Personally, I'd rank them: 1) USC, 2) South Carolina, 3) Miami, 4) Virginia Tech, 5) Minnesota, 6) Maryland, 7) Illinois, 8) UCF , 9) North Texas, 10) Hawaii. Although, who wouldn't want to live and work in Hawaii?
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Switch Miami and Va Tech and this list is correct.
Va Tech has a pretty seriously dedicated fan base. Miami appears to be a once-great program that continues to sink, like Pitt and Nebraska. Bad/No facilities, diminishing support from the administration, and a non-existent fan base. All they have is a past reputation and a good location.

UCF could well be a sleeping giant. It's one of the five largest schools in the US, and they're still in Florida, with all the advantages that go with that. They also could be a candidate if the Big 12 expands.
 

Saw one that had UMN at 7, behind Illinois. I think it's #5

I think with the new facilities, and a nice stadium the Gophers have a lot of great things to offer. Being a solid team in the B1G makes them better than UCF. I think the City and facilities put it above Illinois.

I think there is some nice momentum moving in the athletics program with the new facilities, and solid coaches in the other mens sports. I think that helps really in terms of creating a better culture around here, but likely has very little to do with a coach deciding on coming here.
 

nsmike said:
I don't see the Miami job as being equal to South Carolina because there are problems with institutional support. I question Va Tech being in the #2 position for anyone except Bud Foster. Following a coaching legend is never easy, Bud is likely to perform similarly to Frank Solich at Nebraska, if Va Tech is smart enough to retain him. Maryland is about right because it has the potential to be Oregon East in the right hands.
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Not sure about that. Kill did it.
 

Derhey said:
Agreed. I just think the school is in a crappy area but they do attract the thugs, so that works for Miami.
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Coral Gables is like the Edina of the Miami Metro. It's full of high end homes and upscale shopping, etc. Maybe I'm not following your definition of crappy or you are confusing it with that cesspool of an area where the football stadium is in Miami Gardens.
 

Gophers7NatTitlesBadgers0 said:
Coral Gables is like the Edina of the Miami Metro. It's full of high end homes and upscale shopping, etc. Maybe I'm not following your definition of crappy or you are confusing it with that cesspool of an area where the football stadium is in Miami Gardens.
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My sister lives in Boca Raton and I have a cousin in Coral Gables...I have never been impressed. To each his own; I am not big on the entire state.
 

Could easily see Georgia and Virginia added to this list by the time the regular season is over.
 

Here's how would rank them:

1)USC - has it all, weather, recruits, tight sweaters, .........
2) Miami - has everything except an on-campus stadium
3) VA Tech - Way easier to win here than South Carolina ad everything else is pretty level
4) South Carolina - If Spurrier and Holtz struggled here, it has to be pretty hard. Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech and SEC West opponents every year.

Chasm level of separation at this point.

5) Minnesota - New facilities is going to make this job awesome along with the newer on campus stadium
6) Maryland - Maryland has a very hard time recruiting against Penn State, West Virginia, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Pitt and Ohio State. 5* from DC never stay home.
7) Illinois - You'd just be waiting to be fired like all the coaches before you, I'd rather live somewhere like...

Another clear division

8) Hawaii - I lived here for 4 years! June Jones was like a freaking King here! Add that to the weather, it's awesome! If they could just keep their in-state recruits out of the PAC-10.
9) UCF - really? They hired the guy who made up degrees on his resume.
10) N. Texas - Wasn't this a movie?
 

I believe and maybe I am wrong and if so I am sure someone will correct, but that soccer stadium David Beckham is building in Miami, is going on the campus and the football team is going to play in there. If so that should help the program, I think it would only be a 45,000 seat stadium, but judging by their recent crowds that's not an issue.
 

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Could easily see Georgia and Virginia added to this list by the time the regular season is over.
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If Georgia fires Richt, that becomes the best job available. Maryland is a better job than Minnesota. Better financial support, facilities farther along, better recruiting area, and better weather.
 

I live in Maryland and the weather sucks! I'll take bitter cold over Humidity any day.
 




The only way Miami becomes a great job again is if the cocaine industry starts drowning South Florida in cash again.
 

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