Reusse says Kill #1 whiner in last 60 years

Donate To GopherHole
cjbfbp said:
No, it doesn't but dealing with the media is part of the job. Some do it better than others.
Click to expand...

I agree it is part of the job and I agree Kill doesn't always deal with it the best way. I guess my point is how well a coach talks to the media is way at the bottom of a list of the most important things a coach does. Criticize him for the decisions he makes, recruiting, etc. All those things affect the results of a game. What a coach says afterwards at a press conference does not influence the play on the field.

I just think some people are upset with the way things have gone (rightfully so) that they will complain with just about anything Kill says.
 

Spoofin said:
The only reason Pat posts this stuff is so folks talk about it, tweet it, etc. GH falls for the trap every time.
Click to expand...
He is a curmudgeon and that's what curmudgeon do. Pat is first and foremost a baseball guy. But he grew up a Gopher fan. I doubt whether he is any more but I believe one thing - media prefers to cover a winner. Only Sid in this town can lay claim to having covered good Gopher FB teams. That's not a merit to Sid, other than his longevity, but a demerit to the U. Pat calls it like it is. This isn't pop warner and the home team is not entitled to puff pieces by the media. I like Jerry kill and I hope and believe that this program is on an upward trejectory, this year being only a blip (or a correction from last year's over achievement? ), but Jerry Kill is a bristley whiner.
 

Halsey Hall said:
I came across an old recording of the Sports Huddle with Brewster the guest and he was taking phone calls from very angryu fans after a 29-28 loss to Northwestern. The callers ripped into Brewster calling him incompetent etc. Made me realize even though Kill gets good bucks for his appearances, he never takes questions from fans. He just gets Sid justifying every move Leidner makes.

I can't believe that Kill always punts when it's 4th and one near the 50. Then Nebraska takes the ball and marches right down the field. You have to stop them FOUR downs whether it's on their own 20 or our 40. He almost always takes the safe route because he can't stand criticism if he makes a trick play or risky move. Come on, Jer, open it up and let's have some fun.
Click to expand...

He's a conservative coach, always has been and probably always will be. I don't know if it has anything to do with the criticism.

In yesterday's game, we punted once on 4th and 1 and it was at our own 45 yard line. The resulting punt pinned them at their 9 yard line. This was still early in the game. Over the past few years our defense has been pretty good and our offense has not been. Being it was in our own territory and that it was still early on, I think it was the right call. If he goes for it there and doesn't get it, Kill would have been criticized for his decision as well.

I was more upset yesterday when we had a 3rd and 1, and ran a slow developing QB run out of shotgun. With Leidner, 3rd and 1 should be an automatic QB sneak. Secondly, I was frustrated when Maye caught the pass near the first down and the ref marked him a full yard short. I thought it was a lot closer than that and that it was a bad spot. Not sure if he would have gotten the first, but it looked to be very close.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I agree it is part of the job and I agree Kill doesn't always deal with it the best way. I guess my point is how well a coach talks to the media is way at the bottom of a list of the most important things a coach does. Criticize him for the decisions he makes, recruiting, etc. All those things affect the results of a game. What a coach says afterwards at a press conference does not influence the play on the field.

I just think some people are upset with the way things have gone (rightfully so) that they will complain with just about anything Kill says.
Click to expand...

Kill got a ton of praise for not being a "blowhard" like Brewster and for "telling it like it is" and "not blowing smoke" for 2-3 years at least. A lot of people were saying the same thing going into the season. People who said that the "Country Jer" approach was even a little acting were roundly criticized for voicing an opinion that Kill wasn't being completely truthful. Brewster lied but Kill NEVER did.

Now listening to people say that of course Kill's not telling the truth and to get over it, just seems a little odd.

Thinking Jerry's telling the truth as he sees it seems like a reasonable thing to do. Not so much for Reusse though.
 

Halsey Hall said:
IHe almost always takes the safe route because he can't stand criticism if he makes a trick play or risky move. Come on, Jer, open it up and let's have some fun.
Click to expand...

I dont know how to prove it but i would bet my kids college fund that you are 100% wrong as to why Kill doesn't run trick plays or take risks.
 


SJUgopher said:
That's where you are wrong. He is a Gopher fan but is paid to be objective. Jerry plays the victim card too much and it is getting old.
Click to expand...

I agree. I used to think Reusse was way off base, but that's because I was looking at Kill and the football program through rose colored glasses. I took them off and can see he's usually right, including now. I can't imagine being around Kill and his attitude all day. Would you be happier if he played into Kill's woe is me and woe is us attitude? He's a writer/reporter, he's not paid to be a rah rah guy for Gopher athletics. If he offends your sensibilities, don't read him.
 

Rickman55 said:
I agree. I used to think Reusse was way off base, but that's because I was looking at Kill and the football program through rose colored glasses. I took them off and can see he's usually right, including now. I can't imagine being around Kill and his attitude all day. Would you be happier if he played into Kill's woe is me and woe is us attitude? He's a writer/reporter, he's not paid to be a rah rah guy for Gopher athletics. If he offends your sensibilities, don't read him.
Click to expand...

It's hilarious that you think Kill says the same things to his team that he says publicly.
 

I have never read an article from Reusse that left me wanting more. He is a very negative guy by nature. I give him credit though, he figured out how to get under the skin of every Minnesota sports fan and he just keeps pushing those buttons. Shame on us for even reading this guy.
 

GophersInIowa said:
It's hilarious that you think Kill says the same things to his team that he says publicly.
Click to expand...

I agree with you.
I think kill is very different to his team. Dating back to when he would have guys wear pink jerseys at practice. Kill has always come across (to me) like a guy who is an egotisical guy behind the scenes despite his off the field persona. That isn't an insult either. In fact, a head coach kind of has to be that to an extent.
 



Will the anti-Kill crowd please cite some of this alleged "whining" that is taking place?
 

dpodoll68 said:
Will the anti-Kill crowd please cite some of this alleged "whining" that is taking place?
Click to expand...

And proof that he's too stubborn, coaches to keep it close, etc. etc.

One person writes something one time, and it becomes truth.
 

There is some beautiful irony that Pat Ruesse - who has made a living for nearly half a century by whining about everything under the sun, is offended by someone whining.

And, to clarify Pat is NOT a Gopher fan. He used to be when he was 15 years old. Not now. Pat is on record - many, many, many, many times - saying he wants to cover losing Minnesota teams. Why? For him, it is a better story. That way, he can rile people up. He gets off on it. Simple as that. He revels in this kind of a Gopher season.

Someone, call in to his radio show this week and ask him on the air if he'd prefer that Gophers beat Michigan 42-0 or that Michigan win 42-0 and I promise you he will say he would like it if Michigan won 42-0. Same with the Vikings for him.
 

Sometimes it's better to say too little than to say too much.
IMHO, Kill would be better off to come into the post-game press conference and state the obvious- "we made too many mistakes," "the other team outplayed us," etc.

When he starts out talking about injuries, "we don't have the depth," and "we're young," it sounds to a lot of people like Kill is making excuses. This is year 5 of the program. almost all of these players were recruited by Kill, and all of them have been coached by Kill and his staff. This is his program - for better or worse. It seems as if his first reaction to criticism is to get defensive. That doesn't play well.

Yes, Reusse likes to be the contrarian, and stir things up. but Kill is playing into Reusse's hands with some of his comments.
 



short ornery norwegian said:
Sometimes it's better to say too little than to say too much.
IMHO, Kill would be better off to come into the post-game press conference and state the obvious- "we made too many mistakes," "the other team outplayed us," etc.

When he starts out talking about injuries, "we don't have the depth," and "we're young," it sounds to a lot of people like Kill is making excuses. This is year 5 of the program. almost all of these players were recruited by Kill, and all of them have been coached by Kill and his staff. This is his program - for better or worse. It seems as if his first reaction to criticism is to get defensive. That doesn't play well.

Yes, Reusse likes to be the contrarian, and stir things up. but Kill is playing into Reusse's hands with some of his comments.
Click to expand...

Kill is simply telling the truth. Would you rather he lied? I agree it plays into Reusse's hands, but Kill doesn't care about that. Which of these statements isn't true?

1) Injuries have really hurt this team.

2) We don't have great depth (although it's better than I can ever remember).

3) We're playing a lot of young guys...mostly due to injuries.

It takes time to build quality depth in college football. Your first few years of recruiting are tough. You mostly go after diamonds in the rough who have to be developed for 3 or 4 years. Many of these guys end up not contributing. Sad, but true. Superstar high school players who are ready to contribute right away don't come to losing programs. It takes 3 years of GOOD recruiting (not lousy, diamond in the rough recruiting) to have sufficient depth. 2016 is shaping up to be a VERY good class. I think 2014 and 2015 were pretty good. So we're getting there, IMO.
 

Swede said:
He is a curmudgeon and that's what curmudgeon do. Pat is first and foremost a baseball guy. But he grew up a Gopher fan. I doubt whether he is any more but I believe one thing - media prefers to cover a winner. Only Sid in this town can lay claim to having covered good Gopher FB teams. That's not a merit to Sid, other than his longevity, but a demerit to the U. Pat calls it like it is. This isn't pop warner and the home team is not entitled to puff pieces by the media. I like Jerry kill and I hope and believe that this program is on an upward trejectory, this year being only a blip (or a correction from last year's over achievement? ), but Jerry Kill is a bristley whiner.
Click to expand...

He is a basketball guy. His state tourney basketball history columns are some of his best.
 


short ornery norwegian said:
Sometimes it's better to say too little than to say too much.
IMHO, Kill would be better off to come into the post-game press conference and state the obvious- "we made too many mistakes," "the other team outplayed us," etc.

When he starts out talking about injuries, "we don't have the depth," and "we're young," it sounds to a lot of people like Kill is making excuses. This is year 5 of the program. almost all of these players were recruited by Kill, and all of them have been coached by Kill and his staff. This is his program - for better or worse. It seems as if his first reaction to criticism is to get defensive. That doesn't play well.

Yes, Reusse likes to be the contrarian, and stir things up. but Kill is playing into Reusse's hands with some of his comments.
Click to expand...

I don't have a problem with him referring to the injuries (they've been a huge factor this year) but when he starts saying things like "maybe I should be fired" he sounds like a self-pitying putz.
 


Media doesn't make a difference to what happens on the field (I realize they could somehow alter the amount of fans that attend a game and thus the game in some far fetched manor but you know what I mean). Coaching sure does make a difference and ours happens to be a whiner. Not saying I don't love Jerry, and no one is perfect, but man is he a whiner.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

'13Gopher said:
Media doesn't make a difference to what happens on the field (I realize they could somehow alter the amount of fans that attend a game and thus the game in some far fetched manor but you know what I mean). Coaching sure does make a difference and ours happens to be a whiner. Not saying I don't love Jerry, and no one is perfect, but man is he a whiner.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

So what the media writes doesn't affect what happens on the field but what the coach says to the media does? His "whining" doesn't affect anything on the field either.

I also don't understand why people keep using the word whiner. I can see people saying he likes to make excuses, but that itself doesn't make him a whiner.
 

Patrick makes a living by being a _ _ _ _ _ head, and fuels the negative vein about anything Gopher Football related.
 

Pat makes a living, and pedestrian as it may be, constantly knocking the Gophers and other Minnesota teams... Now, throwing the fans into the mix, classless.

I don't buy that it is "ok" because it is opinion.... any junior high newsletter writer can spew negative commentary, with no attempt to offer any semblance of what their "solution" to the perceived problem would be. He has the luxury of dreaming these articles up after the fact, after the game, and well into the season... not pregame or preseason...

His "Country Jer" shots can end anytime as well too.... After all, he invented the hokey farm boy routine and likes to use it when it is to his advantage.

The "Fulda Rube" strikes again. He needs to stick to baseball and drinking stories. The latter may be the only thing he was ever really proficient at.
 

MGGopher said:
Kill is simply telling the truth. Would you rather he lied? I agree it plays into Reusse's hands, but Kill doesn't care about that. Which of these statements isn't true?

1) Injuries have really hurt this team.

2) We don't have great depth (although it's better than I can ever remember).

3) We're playing a lot of young guys...mostly due to injuries.

It takes time to build quality depth in college football. Your first few years of recruiting are tough. You mostly go after diamonds in the rough who have to be developed for 3 or 4 years. Many of these guys end up not contributing. Sad, but true. Superstar high school players who are ready to contribute right away don't come to losing programs. It takes 3 years of GOOD recruiting (not lousy, diamond in the rough recruiting) to have sufficient depth. 2016 is shaping up to be a VERY good class. I think 2014 and 2015 were pretty good. So we're getting there, IMO.
Click to expand...

injuries happen to all teams, 16 of 22 starters last week were either jr or sen and depth issues has to to do with recruiting. Regarding taking time to build a team-- Without looking up the exact totals I am thinking at least half of the Big Ten teams have coaches newer than Kill- including Mich, Neb, WI, OSU and Penn State which are all better than us. As for 2016 we have no idea if any of them will work out at this point as we are still waiting on JJ and Berkley to be the impact players that made them the tops of their classes
 

I go back to Warmath...and, as a result: I also recall Reusse from his earlier days. He always has been a big a$$ writer with a tendency to try to drive simple fans to distraction. From his shots at Calvin Griffith to a few Mike Lynn jabs to every Gopher football and basketball coach. Being a "simple fan" myself: I always felt that he did his best to try to make me feel like a real fool for being just a plain, old, simple fan. You know...the "blue hairs" who have continued to hold on to their football season tickets for decade after decade...who actually wear maroon & gold to the games like "fools..." In that regard: I guess my 60 plus years of being a Gopher Football Fan have been a tribute to his ability to consistently make me feel a little foolish when looking at the Gopher hat in my closet...those old Gopher sweat shirts and jackets that my wife...relatives...my daughters used to give me for Christmas presents. Sure, he has been pretty good at his craft. But, that big butted blow-hard TOTALLY failed to convince me that I was a fool for gradually over the years turning into one of those damn old blue haired season ticket holders who wears those Gopher Gear shirts to the games and wears the maroon & gold. So, in essence: I see Reusse as an a$$ and a total failure with his approach to Golden Gopher and U of M revenue sports. I've ripped up his column, sworn at him, cussed him, vowed to never read him and once the message boards appeared...I even wrote contrasting posts mocking him, condemning him, and to my dismay: I have been just as unsuccessful with him as he has been with me. He still writes. He still projects that awful radio voice too loudly and too often. But, I have truly remained that same simple Golden Gopher Fan that I have always been.

More than anything: I feel lucky to have that simple fans joy for still going to the football games...even though I am a white-haired old man. Reusse: you old ba$tard: I NEVER let you get me down! I'm still a Gopher Football Fan at age 68 plus. But, you know: as good as I feel about that, I feel pretty sorry for that old Reusse jerk. Just think of all the simple fun and pleasure I have had being a season ticket holding fan of the Gopher Football Team over the many decades that Reusse has had to make his living taking shots at my Gopher Football Team and all the simple Gopher fans just like me who love to attend the games and cheer for the Gopher. What a stinking way to make a living. I never once saw the ba$tard at a Gopher Football game...I was probably just blinded by my rose-colored glasses. And, since Reusse is no one I know: I get to picture him as having missed ALL the great trips I have taken and people I have met being a Gopher Football fan...just a plain, old SIMPLE Golden Gopher Football Fan.

Coach Kill: Just tell your critics that they should just try to fire you if they don't think you are doing a good job...or are a big whiner. YOU have got the big contract and none of the people who might say that kind of crap to you have the money, power OR authority to fire you. You have got them ALL by the short ones. You have got them between a rock and a hard place. And NEVER let any of those people OR that poor old Reusse ba$tard get you down!. Just tell him to FIRE you if he doesn't like the way you are. Take the hits for the Kids. Shove it back at em all. I remember Warmath very well, Coach Kill and YOU remind me in some ways a LOT of Coach Warmath. That's the highest praise I ever hand out regarding University of Minnesota Football. Beat the stinking Blue, Gopher!
 

Maroon92 said:
injuries happen to all teams, 16 of 22 starters last week were either jr or sen and depth issues has to to do with recruiting. Regarding taking time to build a team-- Without looking up the exact totals I am thinking at least half of the Big Ten teams have coaches newer than Kill- <b>including Mich, Neb, WI, OSU and Penn State</b> which are all better than us. As for 2016 we have no idea if any of them will work out at this point as we are still waiting on JJ and Berkley to be the impact players that made them the tops of their classes
Click to expand...

Technically true that these teams have newer coaches than us, but surely even you know why this comparison is silly. Are you sure you can't find some other historic programs to compare us to? Also, how sure are you that WI and NE will finish ahead of us at the end of the year?
 

Pat of all people would know....

Really unless it is "town ball" I'm not sure Pat is paying much attention or cares anymore.
 

In Ancient Greece Reusse would've been one of the retarded babies thrown off the cliff
 

Spoofin said:
Technically true that these teams have newer coaches than us, but surely even you know why this comparison is silly. Are you sure you can't find some other historic programs to compare us to? Also, how sure are you that WI and NE will finish ahead of us at the end of the year?
Click to expand...
Pretty sure looking at the schedules.
Nebraska plays NW, Purdue, MSU, Rutgers, and Iowa.
Becky is a game up and plays Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern, and the Gophs.
We play Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, Illinois, and Wisc
 

Reusse is a ******bag and the Strib is going down the toilet hopefully taking all those crappy journalists with it...over and out
 


You must log in or register to reply here.



Top Bottom