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Ohio State guard Meechie Johnson out for personal reasons tonight vs. Valparaiso.

Gophers host the Buckeyes on Jan.6. With or without Johnson, this likely the Gophers only realistic chance for a Big Ten win until Feb. 1 (Washington).

I’m calling it. .. Gophers down the Buckeyes.

Court storm? (if you can call it that with only 2,000 people)
 

Ohio State guard Meechie Johnson out for personal reasons tonight vs. Valparaiso.

Gophers host the Buckeyes on Jan.6. With or without Johnson, this likely the Gophers only realistic chance for a Big Ten win until Feb. 1 (Washington).

I’m calling it. .. Gophers down the Buckeyes.

Court storm? (if you can call it that with only 2,000 people)
Maybe a half court storm?
 

Gophers host the Buckeyes on Jan.6. With or without Johnson, this likely the Gophers only realistic chance for a Big Ten win until Feb. 1 (Washington).

I often read people saying "we're the worst team in the league so won't beat anyone." I think this is the wrong way to look at this question because this view defies basic probability. Just because you're the underdog in every game doesn't mean you will lose every game. Of course, people have intuition about this from experience but often ignore that experience when making predictions.

For simplicity, let's say that a team has a 20% chance of winning against any one of 6 competitors. Under these assumptions, a team could win anywhere from 0 to 6 of those contests. Here is the probability distribution for those outcomes:

Number of WinsProbability
0​
0.262144​
1​
0.393216​
2​
0.24576​
3​
0.08192​
4​
0.01536​
5​
0.001536​
6​
6.4E-05​
Total Probability
1​

So, the probability of winning none of these contests is only 26%. The probability of winning 1 or 2 games is actually 63.9%. We have a nonzero chance of beating anyone on our schedule so, if we play enough games, we should win at least a small number of them.
 

I often read people saying "we're the worst team in the league so won't beat anyone." I think this is the wrong way to look at this question because this view defies basic probability. Just because you're the underdog in every game doesn't mean you will lose every game. Of course, people have intuition about this from experience but often ignore that experience when making predictions.

For simplicity, let's say that a team has a 20% chance of winning against any one of 6 competitors. Under these assumptions, a team could win anywhere from 0 to 6 of those contests. Here is the probability distribution for those outcomes:

Number of WinsProbability
0​
0.262144​
1​
0.393216​
2​
0.24576​
3​
0.08192​
4​
0.01536​
5​
0.001536​
6​
6.4E-05​
Total Probability
1​

So, the probability of winning none of these contests is only 26%. The probability of winning 1 or 2 games is actually 63.9%. We have a nonzero chance of beating anyone on our schedule so, if we play enough games, we should win at least a small number of them.
Yep, I get that, but nevertheless will be greatly surprised if the Gophers are not the worst team in the Big Ten after all is said and done.

That's why before the season I picked them to win 5 Big Ten games. Just by accident most teams are going to win 2-3 games they shouldn't. Then a couple 50-50 balls (games) that go your way, presto, there's 5 wins.
 

Yep, I get that, but nevertheless will be greatly surprised if the Gophers are not the worst team in the Big Ten after all is said and done.

Yes, I think there is sufficient evidence to conclude that the Gophers likely are the worst team in the conference (Washington isn't good but they have better athletes than us) but they likely will win some conference games, even one or two that few, if any, think they will win. I've had the experience of watching (extensively) four really bad teams: Pitino's 2016 team, Johnson's 2023 team, and a couple of Todd Lickliter's awful Iowa teams. They were all able to win at least a couple of conference games. I don't think this team is any worse than those.
 








Ohio State guard Meechie Johnson out for personal reasons tonight vs. Valparaiso.

Gophers host the Buckeyes on Jan.6. With or without Johnson, this likely the Gophers only realistic chance for a Big Ten win until Feb. 1 (Washington).

I’m calling it. .. Gophers down the Buckeyes.

Court storm? (if you can call it that with only 2,000 people)
 

Ohio State guard Meechie Johnson out for personal reasons tonight vs. Valparaiso.

Gophers host the Buckeyes on Jan.6. With or without Johnson, this likely the Gophers only realistic chance for a Big Ten win until Feb. 1 (Washington).

I’m calling it. .. Gophers down the Buckeyes.

Court storm? (if you can call it that with only 2,000 people)
Court mingle
 

Ohio State guard Meechie Johnson out for personal reasons tonight vs. Valparaiso.

Gophers host the Buckeyes on Jan.6. With or without Johnson, this likely the Gophers only realistic chance for a Big Ten win until Feb. 1 (Washington).

I’m calling it. .. Gophers down the Buckeyes.

Court storm? (if you can call it that with only 2,000 people)

Court drizzle? Court flurries?
 







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