With No One in the Secondary Now Against a Top 5 Pass Attack, How Ugly Will it Get?

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I think 49-17 is a modest take.....Leach will have no problem running up the score...Anyone going to the game, enjoy San Diego and leave at halftime to catch the B10 basketball opener.
 

It could get pretty fugly, I'm afraid, but who knows. Maybe we can somehow pull a rabbit out of a hat.

It's just a shame though, this whole thing, for the players, coaches, fans and basically everyone associated with Minnesota athletics. This definitely takes some of the luster off of a game that I was really, really looking forward to seeing.
 

GopherTheMoney said:
I think 49-17 is a modest take.....Leach will have no problem running up the score...Anyone going to the game, enjoy San Diego and leave at halftime to catch the B10 basketball opener.
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We will outscore them. Gophers 45 WSU 42..... Carpenter with the winning FG. MSU and the Gophers? MSU 68 Gophers 56. MSU is getting healthy Btw.....Never leave at halftime.
 

The Safetys will be fine with Travis, Mcgee and Huff
Myrick will anchor his corner.
It's the other cornerback spot which is the problem. Eric Amoako was listed on the two deep for the Wisconsin game.
 

Johnny Olson said:
The Safetys will be fine with Travis, Mcgee and Huff
Myrick will anchor his corner.
It's the other cornerback spot which is the problem. Eric Amoako was listed on the two deep for the Wisconsin game.
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Gophs have ZERO chance to stop them in 4-5 WR sets....lack of quality and zero depth...In the second half the guys that play will be gassed.
 


You think you have seen boring, predictable, time eating RUTM drives before? You haven't seen anything yet.


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Johnny Olson said:
The Safetys will be fine with Travis, Mcgee and Huff
Myrick will anchor his corner.
It's the other cornerback spot which is the problem. Eric Amoako was listed on the two deep for the Wisconsin game.
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Yeah I think they still have a shot and they have my support. I am not going to stop cheering for the rest of the team.
 

2 parts to pass defense and I don't think we lost anyone from the dline. Hopefully we can get a pass rush and make it easier on the backup dbacks
 

I'm old enough to remember the 1977 season and the Orange Bowl. 10-1 Arkansas was an 18-point underdog to 10-1 Oklahoma. After Holtz
suspended four players who accounted for something like 75% of the TDs that year, the game went off the boards (Vegas knows what its doing).
Everyone was expecting OU to strum Arkansas badly, and for much of the pre-game practice time, OU looked like they would. Arkansas
practiced badly and was demoralized.

Then, the day before the game, Holtz managed to change their mindset. Prior to that, all everyone could think about was who wasn't
going to be there, day after day. Holtz got them to think about who WAS going to be there. He got the team to believe in themselves.
Say what you want about Lou, he was very GOOD at that).

The result was a 31-6 Arkansas victory, which is on Youtube. An unknown RB named Roland Sales stepped forward and ran for over
200 yards.

You never know what is going to happen in 60 minutes of play. If you've been in sports long enough, you know that the physical part of it
is only so much. The psychological/mental part of it can be very powerful. Who knows who has been chomping at the bit to get some PT.
Some players are terrible practice players but do well in games. We'll just have to find out.

I'm more interested in who is there than who is not.
 



Think about it. Without those ten players, the Gophers STILL go 8-4 this season.
 

Offense best be running it every play and go for every 4th down to shorten the game maybe keep it competitive.
 

TC isn't Lou Holz. Remember On Holz staff were Monte Kiffin, Pete Carroll plus other coaches in the NFL. Don't think Johnson and Miller have NFL future.
 





metrolax said:
I'm old enough to remember the 1977 season and the Orange Bowl. 10-1 Arkansas was an 18-point underdog to 10-1 Oklahoma. After Holtz
suspended four players who accounted for something like 75% of the TDs that year, the game went off the boards (Vegas knows what its doing).
Everyone was expecting OU to strum Arkansas badly, and for much of the pre-game practice time, OU looked like they would. Arkansas
practiced badly and was demoralized.

Then, the day before the game, Holtz managed to change their mindset. Prior to that, all everyone could think about was who wasn't
going to be there, day after day. Holtz got them to think about who WAS going to be there. He got the team to believe in themselves.
Say what you want about Lou, he was very GOOD at that).

The result was a 31-6 Arkansas victory, which is on Youtube. An unknown RB named Roland Sales stepped forward and ran for over
200 yards.

You never know what is going to happen in 60 minutes of play. If you've been in sports long enough, you know that the physical part of it
is only so much. The psychological/mental part of it can be very powerful. Who knows who has been chomping at the bit to get some PT.
Some players are terrible practice players but do well in games. We'll just have to find out.

I'm more interested in who is there than who is not.
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Shades of the iron five or six post Dutcher. The fans rallied behind that team.
The coaches have about 10 more practices to get this new personnel ready. I am excited to see what they can do.
 

I would imagine I will be leaving at half time to watch the MBB game with the FB score 42 to 17.
 

Time to coach up the walkons


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This could go a lot of ways - but I see two main possibilities.

#1 the team rallies together under adversity, goes into the game with a huge chip on its shoulder, and goes all-out to prove a point, making it a competitive game.

#2 - the team falls apart under the scrutiny (and the depleted roster) and the game turns into an ugly rout.

And the thing is - I think either possibility is equally likely. There are going to be some very frustrated players on the Gopher team, and they might just decide to take out those frustrations on WSU. If I was a WSU receiver, I would be very careful before going across the middle to catch a ball.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
This could go a lot of ways - but I see two main possibilities.

#1 the team rallies together under adversity, goes into the game with a huge chip on its shoulder, and goes all-out to prove a point, making it a competitive game.

#2 - the team falls apart under the scrutiny (and the depleted roster) and the game turns into an ugly rout.

And the thing is - I think either possibility is equally likely. There are going to be some very frustrated players on the Gopher team, and they might just decide to take out those frustrations on WSU. If I was a WSU receiver, I would be very careful before going across the middle to catch a ball.
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We do have plenty of targeting propaganda we could air drop on them...
 

I predict Ayinde will give up 3 deep ball TDs all by himself..
 

Seany said:
It could get pretty fugly, I'm afraid, but who knows. Maybe we can somehow pull a rabbit out of a hat.

It's just a shame though, this whole thing, for the players, coaches, fans and basically everyone associated with Minnesota athletics. This definitely takes some of the luster off of a game that I was really, really looking forward to seeing.
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Can't help but wonder at the exquisite timing of this PC power exercise from the Title IX police on an event from Sept. 2. Why not a January announcement?
 

Gopher "fans" wildly pessimistic about the outcome of a game?!? I'M SHOCKED!!!

People probably get tired of hearing this, but why do most of you even follow this team? I sincerely don't get it and I never will. Are you masochists? Are you incapable of enjoying something unless you assume the worst will happen, always?
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
Can't help but wonder at the exquisite timing of this PC power exercise from the Title IX police on an event from Sept. 2. Why not a January announcement?
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Investigating possible criminal activity by students or the violation of the Student Code of Conduct is not a PC power exercise to most reasonable people. A January announcement would not have gotten the same level of news coverage and would not have had anywhere near the impact. The timing makes perfect sense to people who care about the quality and integrity of their school and the welfare of all of its students (not just athletes). Those people believe that winning football games is of much lesser importance.
 

I had already written this game off. I couldn't get excited for a Mitch game, so I'm already ready for a loss. I'll watch anyway, because I love me some Gophers, but it doesn't really matter how bad it gets. There is certainly no pressure to do well now.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Gopher "fans" wildly pessimistic about the outcome of a game?!? I'M SHOCKED!!!

People probably get tired of hearing this, but why do most of you even follow this team? I sincerely don't get it and I never will. Are you masochists? Are you incapable of enjoying something unless you assume the worst will happen, always?
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I have become numb to anything this team does this year. So I don't feel strongly one way or the other about the bowl game. But I can not blame ANYONE who would be feeling crippling pessimism about the bowl game. Given the recent events and how every big game goes for the Gophers. I have even seen some of the usual positive posters show doubt this week. Sorry not everyone can be happy-happy-joy-joy.
 


Spokesman-Review: Minnesota suspensions leave Gophers especially vulnerable to WSU’s Air Raid

The indefinite suspensions of 10 Minnesota football players on Tuesday leave the Golden Gophers particularly vulnerable against Washington State’s pass-heavy offense, given that the most prominent players involved are defensive backs.

The teams will meet in the Holiday Bowl on Dec. 27. Nearly a dozen Golden Gophers will not suit up after a new ruling in a case involving accusations of sexual assault prompted the university to suspend the players.

Those players include a starting safety (Antoine Winfield) and three of the team’s top four cornerbacks (Antonio Shenault, KiAnte Hardin and Ray Buford). The Cougars ranked No. 2 in the country in total pass attempts (613) and passing yards per game (370.8) and were tied for sixth in passing touchdowns (39).

Prior to the suspensions, the pass defense was a strength for the Golden Gophers, who ranked No. 16 in yards allowed per pass attempt (6.3).

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/dec/14/minnesota-suspensions-leave-gophers-especially-vul/

Go Gophers!!
 

Gopherholefan said:
2 parts to pass defense and I don't think we lost anyone from the dline. Hopefully we can get a pass rush and make it easier on the backup dbacks
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The main problem is that in order to get pressure we often have to blitz our LB's. If we blitz the LB's against a team like WSU they will kill us with short passes over the middle in the areas where the linebackers were. Assuming we don't get the suspended players back it is going to take an awesome effort by the defense to keep WSU in check on offense and our offense is going to have to control the clock and put up points every chance they can.

This was a bit of a rough matchup even before the suspensions but with a depleted secondary it is really hard to be overly optimistic about our chances. But you never know, turnovers and other factors can shift a game in a hurry.
 

We were really happy to get Coney Durr to sign on the dotted line last year. He was hurt on and off this season, but played special teams later in the year and he's going to have to play next year. Might as well get him in there. Assuming he's healthy, I'm interested to see how he holds up. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he'll do better than we expect.
 

This coaching has had this squad in every game, they've had a 4th quarter lead each game they've been in, we will be ready and we will compete.
 

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