Wisconsin targeting Luke Fickell

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Laker said:
Epic? Fickle is an upgrade for recruiting alone. When the divisions go away the big 3 in the east will duke it out with USC for the conference championship. Minnesota and Wisconsin will be fighting for a spot in the Bad Boy Mowers or Cheezit bowls. Not that great to look forward to.
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Probably should just shut both programs down.
 
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The talent separation happens in almost every power conference. Alabama, Georgia, LSU who? Oklahoma, Texas, and the one hit wonders TCU, Clemson, Miami, and occasionally another team. How many Big West teams have won the conference championship? Painful facts that won’t change very often. Wisconsin is trying hard to shake it up. Minnesota seems to have reached their level of competence. The level is higher than in the past but not next level. Wisc is rolling the dice to make the jump. Who knows whether it work.
 

Laker said:
The talent separation happens in almost every power conference. Alabama, Georgia, LSU who? Oklahoma, Texas, and the one hit wonders TCU, Clemson, Miami, and occasionally another team. How many Big West teams have won the conference championship? Painful facts that won’t change very often. Wisconsin is trying hard to shake it up. Minnesota seems to have reached their level of competence. The level is higher than in the past but not next level. Wisc is rolling the dice to make the jump. Who knows whether it work.
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We will be able to stand by and watch as our two biggest rivals apply two vastly different approaches.

Wisconsin is apparently changing their entire identity. It seems the Alvarez model was no longer good enough for them.

By contrast, Iowa is standing pat, seemingly content with the Fry/Ferentz blueprint.

It will be really interesting to see how these plans work out for each of these programs.
 
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Exactly. I think Wisconsin realized their approach wasn’t going to work in the new Big 10. Bigger upside or bigger downside than Iowa.
 

Laker said:
How many Big West teams have won the conference championship?
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In the last 14 years, the SEC East has only won their championship twice — both Georgia, and both of those happened 2017 and later.

For 8 years only the SEC West won. And you didn’t hear much about the obvious lack of parity. The Big Ten’s West/East divisions have only even been around for 9 years so far. 😂
 
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It looks as though Minnesota and Iowa are going to remain run-first, ball control teams. Wisconsin seems to be going Air Raid.

Will this mean that Wisconsin leaves Minnesota and Iowa in the dust, or will the Badgers take a step backward?
 
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Laker said:
The talent separation happens in almost every power conference. Alabama, Georgia, LSU who? Oklahoma, Texas, and the one hit wonders TCU, Clemson, Miami, and occasionally another team. How many Big West teams have won the conference championship? Painful facts that won’t change very often. Wisconsin is trying hard to shake it up. Minnesota seems to have reached their level of competence. The level is higher than in the past but not next level. Wisc is rolling the dice to make the jump. Who knows whether it work.
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Since 2014 no teams in the big ten west have won the championship.
Since 2000 every team in the west has won the conference championship except Minnesota and Nebraska


I’m not sure I agree with your claim that Wisconsin is trying to win but Minnesota isn’t.
 

RememberMurray said:
It looks as though Minnesota and Iowa are going to remain run-first, ball control teams. Wisconsin seems to be going Air Raid.

Will this mean that Wisconsin leaves Minnesota and Iowa in the dust, or will the Badgers take a step backwards?
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I think most people likely know this, but calling it Air Raid is a bit facetious.

In 2022, UNC threw 53% of the time, UW 42%.
In 2021, UNC threw 45% of the time, UW 36%.
In 2020, UNC threw 44% of the time, UW 42%.

So about a 10% increase in passes for UW.
 

How different will Wisconsin look in 2023 under Luke Fickell?​

Fickell’s response is way more vanilla than a lot of fans might have anticipated. The arrival of Phil Longo in town seemed to be a clear indication that the offense was going to be wide open.

Longo is the exact opposite of everything Wisconsin fans have known for years. He’s the anti-Barry Alvarez when it comes to running the offense.

He loves throwing the ball all over the place. Look at what he did with Drake Maye this past season at North Carolina. The Tar Heels couldn’t throw it enough.

However, it certainly sounds like Luke Fickell is attempting to curb expectations before the season even gets underway.

Yes, things will change, but the change might not happen right away. It’s either that, or Fickell is engaging in some classic coach speak in order to ease the concerns of more establishment fans. It’s hard to say.

www.outkick.com

Luke Fickell Shines A Light On Wisconsin's Re-Tooled System

Wisconsin football coach Luke Fickell is going to change the offense, but perhaps not as drastically as expected. He talked possible changes.
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I'm A Maroon 2! said:
I think most people likely know this, but calling it Air Raid is a bit facetious.

In 2022, UNC threw 53% of the time, UW 42%.
In 2021, UNC threw 45% of the time, UW 36%.
In 2020, UNC threw 44% of the time, UW 42%.

So about a 10% increase in passes for UW.
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Just watching some NC highlights this year, that offense was not Air Raid. Lineman splits were fairly narrow. They didn't typically have a TE on the line of scrimmage (unlike previous WI teams) but usually did have an H-back. Usually three wide receivers and a running back run for the shotgun/pistol. It looked like most of the offenses run in D1 right now. NC has had a future high NFL draft pick at QB so they have shaped the offense for him and obviously passed more.
 

The reported hire of Phil Longo as the University of Wisconsin’s new offensive coordinator represents a dramatic shift in offensive philosophy.

UW, a team for decades defined by its running game, would be shifting to an attack far more reliant on the pass (though not necessarily exclusively) in the “Air Raid” system Longo gleaned in the late 1990s from current Mississippi State coach Mike Leach. According to Bruce Feldman of The Athletic, Longo developed a relationship with new Badgers coach Luke Fickell when Longo interviewed for the Cincinnati offensive coordinator job before taking the job at Ole Miss in late 2016.

So what's meant by "Air Raid" offense?

www.jsonline.com

What is the 'air raid' offense and how will Wisconsin football potentially look different?

North Carolina's Phil Longo, reportedly on his way to become Wisconsin's offensive coordinator, brings a unique offense to Madison.
www.jsonline.com
 

Regardless of offensive philosophy the real question will be if anybody outside the Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State group can realistically crack that group and stay there.

Since 2000 the trio of OSU, Mich, PSU has either won or tied for the conference title 17 times. Wisconsin is trying to recapture the magic of over 10 years ago when they won the Big Ten in 3 straight years (although one of those years was greatly aided by PSU and OSU being ineligible - 2012). Whether or not that is even possible in this new college football landscape remains to be seen.
 

RememberMurray said:
The reported hire of Phil Longo as the University of Wisconsin’s new offensive coordinator represents a dramatic shift in offensive philosophy.

UW, a team for decades defined by its running game, would be shifting to an attack far more reliant on the pass (though not necessarily exclusively) in the “Air Raid” system Longo gleaned in the late 1990s from current Mississippi State coach Mike Leach. According to Bruce Feldman of The Athletic, Longo developed a relationship with new Badgers coach Luke Fickell when Longo interviewed for the Cincinnati offensive coordinator job before taking the job at Ole Miss in late 2016.

So what's meant by "Air Raid" offense?

www.jsonline.com

What is the 'air raid' offense and how will Wisconsin football potentially look different?

North Carolina's Phil Longo, reportedly on his way to become Wisconsin's offensive coordinator, brings a unique offense to Madison.
www.jsonline.com
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Granted it would probably only be much of a factor in 3-ish games, but the end of the season can have some nasty weather. Will that type of offense work very well in the really cold, wet, or snowy conditions? Also, will they be able to recruit the players they need to run it?
 



Excepting the Sevice football teams, WI faced eight+ in the box more than almost all the other programs.
Chryst was too stubborn to change and lost his job because of that.
Chryst also did not give recruiting the organization and emphasis that Fickell has.
Everything will change in 2024 and WI is trying to adapt.
 



Plato said:
Chryst was too stubborn to change and lost his job because of that.
Chryst also did not give recruiting the organization and emphasis that Fickell has.
Everything will change in 2024 and WI is trying to adapt.
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At least that’s what a hot-headed AD who fires a successful HC during a temper-tantrum has to tell people.
 

Laker said:
The talent separation happens in almost every power conference. Alabama, Georgia, LSU who? Oklahoma, Texas, and the one hit wonders TCU, Clemson, Miami, and occasionally another team. How many Big West teams have won the conference championship? Painful facts that won’t change very often. Wisconsin is trying hard to shake it up. Minnesota seems to have reached their level of competence. The level is higher than in the past but not next level. Wisc is rolling the dice to make the jump. Who knows whether it work.
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Trying to “out recruit” schools like OSU, USC, PSU and Michigan with any kind of consistency is not very realistic for schools like Iowa, Wisconsin, and MN.
 

That is one take on the affair that has been written but there is no doubt that Chryst's "success" was in beating the easy teams but losing conference games.
2022 was a disaster.
The program was slipping and from what I read in Buckyville the recruitniks there are giddy with the entrants from the portal and the efforts made in recruiting high school players for the future.
 

Plato said:
That is one take on the affair that has been written but there is no doubt that Chryst's "success" was in beating the easy teams but losing conference games.
2022 was a disaster.
The program was slipping and from what I read in Buckyville the recruitniks there are giddy with the entrants from the portal and the efforts made in recruiting high school players for the future.
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I feel like Wisconsin fans and Nebraska fans have a lot in common in terms of what they think their program is capable of vs. what their program is actually capable of.

Will be interesting to see if Fickell is able to raise the program above the level where Chryst had it most years. That is going to be far easier said than done in the current Big Ten landscape. Especially now that programs like Minnesota/Illinois are no longer teams the Badgers can count on being able to push around.
 

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