You were saying Wisconsin was the same as Minnesota. I was just pointing out you were wrong. No biggie. If you don't think 20,000 people 17 times a year is something + the Wild @ 18,000 41 times a year, then you clearly have an agenda.
Who cares? They win. That's what matters.
20 years ago if we paid our players the NCAA would have made an example out of us and given us the death penalty.
I don't believe that if the U of M was located in Rochester or St. Cloud that anything would be different.
Minnesota is not Iowa or Wisconsin. You want to fire the best coach MN has had in 50+ years because of a 3-3 start? You, and fans who think this way are delusional.
How many times do they play on the same day? My guess is virtually zero times. It is possible to be a simultaneous fan of teams in different sports and leagues. Other places wouldn’t make this lame-butt excuse. And it’s not about attendance or ticket-buying - it’s about interest. The only D1 football team in the state should have no excuses about that.
They don't have to be playing the same day. I don't know how you can't understand this. If I allocate $200 a month for tickets, it doesn't matter if the games are on the same day or not. That's reality for most families. Money is not infinite for most people.
So you’re saying only the people that go to games are fans. Ok. Have you ever watched the Gophers and Twins on TV on Saturday, the Twins and Vikings on TV on Sunday? Are you not a fan of each of those teams despite not attending in person? Was it difficult for you because of all the dilution of sports interest?
The fact is, all of these things are forms of entertainment. Twins, Vikings, Gophers, Wild, Wolves, Loons, Saints, going out to eat, going to a movie, going to the theater etc. It's all entertainment, and people have a finite amount of discretionary money to spend on entertainment.
Gopher football and Gopher hockey are appointment-worthy for me. Watch pretty much every game in person or on TV.
I'd probably agree with you re St Cloud, but I think Rochester would be grand. Let's try it and see.
My mistake, I thought the Packers played in Green Bay and the Bucks and Brewers in Milwaukee.
All of those are statewide teams as are the Minnesota ones.
Agreed. And if you go to Madison, Lincoln, Ann Arbor or virtually any big program in the big ten the whole vibe is different. Almost all those schools have virtual no competition close by. And please spare me that Ohio state has the blue jackets. Roseau gets more fans than they do
I can understand why Gopher fans don't want to believe that the pro dominance of the TC market affects recruiting because if it's true, there is a ceiling. You're right about the difference between a pro market and a college market's vibe. It's true in other conferences, too -- e.g. Knoxville, Lexington, Fayetteville, Baton Rouge, et al.
Agree with this. Wisconsin not a very good team this year. Although I will pick them to win the west because in the division full of below average, they’re average
Vibe might be different but the dollars spent but the fan are not. Pie of fan $$ is only so big.
They are in year zero nothing that happens matters.
Talk about delusional.
Fleck said the loss was 100% on himself. Was he being disingenuous.
Plus the schedule is the easiest between them, MN, and IA!
Yeah. If Wisconsin beats Iowa this weekend they might already have it wrapped up
There are 3,000,000 people in MSP metro. There are about 300k people in Madison and Lincoln.
Agreed. But the metro area of Madison is about 700k. It’s not as big as Minnie that’s for sure but plenty big. Like stated before it’s not a population thing as much as everyone there seems to be all about the local college team with nothing else close by to compete. Everywhere you go in Lincoln or Madison all you see is badger gear or husker gear, stores and they dominate the local sports pages. Nebraska has sucked for quite a while and still gets amazing attendance, gophers have had better teams then them every year for a long time with nowhere near the support. Nebraska always sells out and it’s usually to watch a 5-8 win product. I would agree though that with all the people in Minnie you would think that they would fill that little stadium all the time and it would be a hard ticket to get. Plus it’s a great stadium with a fun atmosphere.
The Badgers also draw from Milwaukee, which is a little over an hour away. Milwaukee metro is 1.5 million. That doesn't even take into account the other mid-size cities in easy driving distance.
