Wisconsin Badgers are idiots

The whole thing is insane. What's next? If you don't make the HS varsity team until you're a senior, you can play another 2 years?
With the potential for revenue sharing and pay for play money I get why guys are hanging on as tight as they can to try and get whatever they can. Especially guys with limited to no pro potential which I assume is the case for this kid.

But the whole thing is getting beyond ridiculous. The amount of time we spend in here talking about the various lawsuits out there is insane.
 


With the potential for revenue sharing and pay for play money I get why guys are hanging on as tight as they can to try and get whatever they can. Especially guys with limited to no pro potential which I assume is the case for this kid.

But the whole thing is getting beyond ridiculous. The amount of time we spend in here talking about the various lawsuits out there is insane.
Who would have thought the NCAA's lack of foresight and leadership, coupled with inaction until forced by the legal system, and then topped off with a hastily implemented gong show with no guardrails would have these kinds of consequences? ;)
 

Who would have thought the NCAA's lack of foresight and leadership, coupled with inaction until forced by the legal system, and then topped off with a hastily implemented gong show with no guardrails would have these kinds of consequences? ;)
Yep....the inmates and their lawyers are definitely running the asylum.
 





Not sure the thread bump was warranted but seeing that thread title makes me happy.... :)
 

lol

The University of Wisconsin filed a lawsuit Friday claiming Miami's football team broke the law by tampering with a Badgers player, a first-of-its-kind legal attempt to enforce the terms of a financial contract between a football player and his school.

The lawsuit refers to the athlete in question as "Student Athlete A," but details from the complaint line up with the offseason transfer of freshman defensive back Xavier Lucas. Lucas left Wisconsin and enrolled at Miami in January after saying the Badgers staff refused to enter his name in the transfer portal last December.

In the complaint filed Friday, Wisconsin claims that a Miami staff member and a prominent alumnus met with Lucas and his family at a relative's home in Florida and offered him money to transfer shortly after Lucas signed a two-year contract last December. The lawsuit states that Miami committed tortious interference by knowingly compelling a player to break the terms of his deal with the Badgers.

"While we reluctantly bring this case, we stand by our position that respecting and enforcing contractual obligations is essential to maintaining a level playing field," the school said in a statement provided to ESPN on Friday.

According to the complaint, Wisconsin decided to file suit in hopes that "during this watershed time for college athletics, this case will advance the overall integrity of the game by holding programs legally accountable when they wrongfully interfere with contractual commitments."

Representatives from the University of Miami did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The pending case promises to be an interesting test of whether schools can use name, image and likeness (NIL) deals to keep athletes from transferring even though the players aren't technically employees. Starting July 1, schools will begin paying their athletes directly via NIL deals.

The contracts between Wisconsin and their athletes give the school the nonexclusive rights to use a player's NIL in promotions. Part of the deal, according to the lawsuit, prohibits an athlete from making any commitments to enroll or play sports at other schools. The lawsuit says Wisconsin had a reasonable expectation that Lucas would "continue to participate as a member of its football program" until the deal ended.

However, according to several contracts between Big Ten schools and their players that ESPN has previously reviewed, these deals explicitly state that athletes are not being paid to play football for the university. Since the school is technically paying only to use the player's NIL rights, it's not clear if a judge will consider it fair to enforce a part of the contract that dictates where the player attends school.

The Big Ten said in a statement Friday that it supports Wisconsin's decision to file the lawsuit and that Miami's alleged actions "are irreconcilable with a sustainable college sports framework."

Darren Heitner, a Florida-based attorney who represents Xavier Lucas, told ESPN that Wisconsin did not file any legal claims against Lucas and declined to comment further.



 




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The University of Wisconsin filed a lawsuit Friday claiming Miami's football team broke the law by tampering with a Badgers player, a first-of-its-kind legal attempt to enforce the terms of a financial contract between a football player and his school.

The lawsuit refers to the athlete in question as "Student Athlete A," but details from the complaint line up with the offseason transfer of freshman defensive back Xavier Lucas. Lucas left Wisconsin and enrolled at Miami in January after saying the Badgers staff refused to enter his name in the transfer portal last December.

In the complaint filed Friday, Wisconsin claims that a Miami staff member and a prominent alumnus met with Lucas and his family at a relative's home in Florida and offered him money to transfer shortly after Lucas signed a two-year contract last December. The lawsuit states that Miami committed tortious interference by knowingly compelling a player to break the terms of his deal with the Badgers.

"While we reluctantly bring this case, we stand by our position that respecting and enforcing contractual obligations is essential to maintaining a level playing field," the school said in a statement provided to ESPN on Friday.

According to the complaint, Wisconsin decided to file suit in hopes that "during this watershed time for college athletics, this case will advance the overall integrity of the game by holding programs legally accountable when they wrongfully interfere with contractual commitments."

Representatives from the University of Miami did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The pending case promises to be an interesting test of whether schools can use name, image and likeness (NIL) deals to keep athletes from transferring even though the players aren't technically employees. Starting July 1, schools will begin paying their athletes directly via NIL deals.

The contracts between Wisconsin and their athletes give the school the nonexclusive rights to use a player's NIL in promotions. Part of the deal, according to the lawsuit, prohibits an athlete from making any commitments to enroll or play sports at other schools. The lawsuit says Wisconsin had a reasonable expectation that Lucas would "continue to participate as a member of its football program" until the deal ended.

However, according to several contracts between Big Ten schools and their players that ESPN has previously reviewed, these deals explicitly state that athletes are not being paid to play football for the university. Since the school is technically paying only to use the player's NIL rights, it's not clear if a judge will consider it fair to enforce a part of the contract that dictates where the player attends school.

The Big Ten said in a statement Friday that it supports Wisconsin's decision to file the lawsuit and that Miami's alleged actions "are irreconcilable with a sustainable college sports framework."

Darren Heitner, a Florida-based attorney who represents Xavier Lucas, told ESPN that Wisconsin did not file any legal claims against Lucas and declined to comment further.



I am all for schools calling out other schools for tampering. That is the only way that anything can get done to try and curb that.

Nobody affiliated with a different program should be contacting a player who isn't in the portal...but of course we all know that is happening a ton.
 

Good for the Badgers—discovery should expose in great detail this specific dark underside of college athletics: how players are winked & nodded from one program to another via third parties and the cash which changes hands.
 

Good for the Badgers—discovery should expose in great detail this specific dark underside of college athletics: how players are winked & nodded from one program to another via third parties and the cash which changes hands.
I thought paying the players would clean up the chicanery?
 





Who would have thought the NCAA's lack of foresight and leadership, coupled with inaction until forced by the legal system, and then topped off with a hastily implemented gong show with no guardrails would have these kinds of consequences? ;)
Where this ended up was inevitable and should have been obvious. People who didn't see it coming when they pushed to change the system were being either willfully blind or incredibly naive. I know there was some cute NIL utopia some envisioned, but that was never a possibility.
 


Good for the Badgers—discovery should expose in great detail this specific dark underside of college athletics: how players are winked & nodded from one program to another via third parties and the cash which changes hands.
Badgers must feel confident they aren't going to get nailed for doing this to other teams so yeah it should be interesting to see what all comes from this.

Tampering is definitely one of the worst parts of all this. Pay the players, let them transfer but if a kid isn't in the portal or looking to move then teams should not be trying to induce them to leave.
 




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