Which of these 3 is the best job?

Which of these 3 is the best job?

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glovedgopher said:
90% of coaches don't care what city they live in. They care about the paycheck and their egos.
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Wow, you know 90% of the coaches out there, impressive. Do their families care then where they live or do they never get a say.
 

Dan McCarney's family gets no say.....or else.

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Schnauzer said:
I wouldn't argue Colorado isn't a nice place to live and a lot of people wouldn't mind living there. However, saying there is more to do there is flat out false. There are as many or more big city things to do here and although the outdoors activity list may be slightly different in composition, it is no different in length.

Not everyone is like me but I personally couldn't live without the north country and the lakes. The next guy might love to snow ski in the mountains.

Minnesota has been bucking the trend of population decline in the snow belt for years. It is projected to surpass Wisconsin in population within the next 30 or so years. No, the population growth has not been nearly at the rate of Nevada, Arizona, or even Colorado... but it is significant especially when considering the location.
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I may be wrong but I just couldn't think of a single big city thing that you can do in Minneapolis that you cannot do there. They have all the pro sports just like here, theaters, restaurants, etc.
 

GopherinPhilly said:
Pitt is ok...but plays in the NFL stadium and its in Pittsburgh...if you haven't been then you wouldn't understand.

Colorado is fab now that its in the Pac 12 and location is awesome if you love to ski, etc. But I think recruiting will get harder in the Pac 12 than the Big 12...Cali schools are like FL schools to recruit against and Colorado doesn't have tradition against the Cali schools...close second.MN was my pick...metro area, 4 seasons, new stadium, Big 10 conference, National TV every week and top notch education. History to call upon and tradition to build on and natural rivalrys.
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You do realize that Colorado currently has 27 Californians on their roster and they don't play a single game in the state of California. It will probably get easier to recruit California once they move to the Pac 12 because the players families will atleast be able to see their son on TV more as well as be able to travel and see more of their games since they will be playing more of their games in California.
 

GopherGod said:
I may be wrong but I just couldn't think of a single big city thing that you can do in Minneapolis that you cannot do there. They have all the pro sports just like here, theaters, restaurants, etc.
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No argument. Pretty close. That is my point. Denver isn't better. A little smaller, but not better.

In Denver you can't roller skate around Lake Calhoun or sit on a bench and watch fat people at the Mall of America.

In Denver you can take a day trip into the mountains. Here you can have a cabin on a lake or do a day trip up the north shore. It is a matter of taste and personal preference.
 


Schnauzer said:
No argument. Pretty close. That is my point. Denver isn't better. A little smaller, but not better.

In Denver you can't roller skate around Lake Calhoun or sit on a bench and watch fat people at the Mall of America.

In Denver you can take a day trip into the mountains. Here you can have a cabin on a lake or do a day trip up the north shore. It is a matter of taste and personal preference.
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I have lived in both Denver and Minneapolis and the quality of life is higher in Denver, in my opinion.

Day trip up to the north shore? Try a day trip to the Rocky Mountains. Not even close.

Cabin on a lake (as my family does) or a cabin in the mountains (albeit more expensive)? I hope to have a cabin in Wyoming or Colorado someday.

4 seasons? Both of them -- check. Golfing during a warm spell in January? Only Colorado.

Humidity? Minnesota is all over that one.

~300 sunny days per year (or more)? Colorado.

Awesome snowstorms? Both. Snow gone the next day? Colorado. Slush and black ice? Minnesota.

Culturally, I found Denver and Minneapolis to be roughly equivalent. Similar education levels. The inner city in Denver is primarily Hispanic folks while the inner city in Minneapolis is a mix of African American/Somali/Asian folks. Good mix of food in both cities.

Minneapolis does a better job of having parks and green space and bike paths (although Denver has some good ones, too). Boulder has excellent bike paths. I love all of the lakes in Minneapolis/St. Paul...that is one thing Denver has few of.

That is about all I've got. Totally agree with GopherGod on this one.
 

Schnauzer said:
It is a matter of taste and personal preference.
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I meant to say that my personal preference is for Colorado, and I think that the majority of people's personal preference would be for Colorado as well, although I certainly understand that you prefer MN. I love the lakes, the Boundary Waters especially, and my family and friends back in MN. I think CO has it beat on most other fronts, though.
 

How did this thread turn into "where would you rather live"? According to you guys there will be coaches all across the county lined up to be interviewed by Joel and Prexy B because they just want to live here. Never mind the guy that hired you and his boss will be gone in a year. That's okay they get to go fishing and enjoy the 4 seasons of Minnesota. Money who cares, I'm living in the greatest state in the union. Head coaches, who have hours and hours of free time, will be running not walking to enjoy a Minnesota winter. No, they don't care about money and winning and they're not competitive people at all. Is this what you guys are telling me? Guys do me a favor. Name the top ten coaching positions in all of college football and the city they are located in. Oh another good argument is the coach that manages to come here and win will have half of the campus named after him. Couple that with the fact we are at absolute rock bottom right now (nothing but upside!) Great but if you fail you will never get another head coaching job like most of the coaches before you. Good Luck! Why are we worried about having enough money to pay a coach when we live in Minnesota.
 

GopherGod said:
You do realize that Colorado currently has 27 Californians on their roster and they don't play a single game in the state of California. It will probably get easier to recruit California once they move to the Pac 12 because the players families will atleast be able to see their son on TV more as well as be able to travel and see more of their games since they will be playing more of their games in California.
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Now this is a valid point.
 



GopherGod said:
You do realize that Colorado currently has 27 Californians on their roster and they don't play a single game in the state of California. It will probably get easier to recruit California once they move to the Pac 12 because the players families will atleast be able to see their son on TV more as well as be able to travel and see more of their games since they will be playing more of their games in California.
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I have no doubt that this will be the plan. But it looks like they will be in a division with USC and UCLA. They will have to play them every year. Are they going to be able to out-recruit USC and UCLA in LA?
 

Pitt is in the same boat Minnesota was in a couple years ago with an off campus stadium. However, the general population at Pitt doesn't seem to care about not having an on campus facility. If you want to argue the city, Pittsburgh has placed in front of many lists for most livable cities, but seeing as I chose to go to the U over Pitt, I don't see what's so great about it.
 


GopherInPittsburgh said:
Pitt is in the same boat Minnesota was in a couple years ago with an off campus stadium. However, the general population at Pitt doesn't seem to care about not having an on campus facility. If you want to argue the city, Pittsburgh has placed in front of many lists for most livable cities, but seeing as I chose to go to the U over Pitt, I don't see what's so great about it.
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It seems that the off field stadium is not really hurting recruiting there. I was surprised to see they had the #13 ranked class according to rivals. They seem to do very well with the east coast kids.
 



1. Pitt - Weak conference; lots of talent in PA, OH, MD, NJ, and Virginia.

2. Colorado - Decent in-state talent; location allows it to mine both California and Texas.

3. Minnesota - Little talent in Minnesota and adjacent states/provinces; frozen wasteland image makes recruiting even more difficult.
 

it would be 10 times easier to recruit players to bolder then to Minneapolis, bolder is know for weed, and I know people on here don't like to hear this but D-1 football players smoke a lot of weed.
 

NateDawgUM said:
If you think our fan base is apathetic, Colorado is 10x worse.

And what's up with everybody saying there's more to do in Boulder than in Minneapolis? Have you been to Boulder? It's like Ann Arbor with mountains. Cute and boring.

If you like to ski, then sure, Colorado is great. I don't want our coach spending the entire winter on the slopes instead of in the office.
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NateDawgUM....question for you...Is the fan base ignorant, or apathetic? On the other hand, I don't know and I don't care.
 

I vote for Colorado. I think the schools are nearly identical. I think the quality of life is much better in Colorado. I moved to Denver a year and a half ago and the ONLY thing that Minnesota has better than Colorado is lakes. I personally think Denver is a nicer, cleaner and safer city than Minneapolis. And you can't beat the mountains or the weather here. Also, we have more pro sports teams (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS and MLL).

Don't get me wrong, I love Minnesota and enjoy it every time I go home to visit. But I'm very happy to be living here.

BTW, people mentioned bike paths being better in Minneapolis...I know there are a lot in there, but there are literally 100s of miles of bike paths in Denver. Cherry Creek anyone?
 

One thing I forgot to hit on is fan base. I do think Minnesota has a slightly better fan base. CU has a great fan base, but it is mixed in with a lot of CSU fans here.

CU also has a nicer stadium--I think one of the nicest stadiums in college football (not that the U's isn't either). They just need to fill it consistently.
 

I went with Pitt, easier conference to get a BCS bid. Much better recruiting area, lots of talent within 2 hours of campus.
 

It's Minnesota. The Gophers have the best facilities by a mile, and the Big Ten is the most profitable conference in CFB and is basically never worse than the 2nd best conference in overall strength (and is often the best).
 


Did I miss something? Is the Pitt job open?
 

People

Ok, I only lived in Denver for a month, but to me...the people in Minnesota are truly nicer! The people we met contained a high percentage of rednecks. I was on a project with two other people from Minnesota who felt the same and we didn't talk to the same people. Lots of people driving around in trucks with rifles mounted in the rear window.

As a job, as a coach. Where can I win is maybe number one. But, the contract in terms of length and dollars is certainly a factor. The assurances you will able to do the things that are important to you: dollars for assistants, weight room, practice facilities, travel method and accommodations,
budget/authority for support personnel, video capabilities, physical offices, procedure to purchase new equipment....just on and on...this kind of thing is important to a coach because you are there 18 hours a day. And it is not the same every where or for each persons desires.

Maybe most important to winning is administrative support. How do you feel about the athletic director and president? And to many candidates that is going to be a major sticking point in choosing MN if they have choices and the other one seems more solid in this area.
 

Brew_recruit said:
it would be 10 times easier to recruit players to bolder then to Minneapolis, bolder is know for weed, and I know people on here don't like to hear this but D-1 football players smoke a lot of weed.
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I wonder when the reefer madness will hit Minneapolis and Pittsburgh, maybe then we might be able to recruit a little bit.
 

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