What makes good defense?

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That's easy to answer, right? Look at the stats. Teams are rated on defense by points allowed, total yards, rush yards, and pass yards given up. And by takeaways of course. Just look at Wisconsin and Iowa if you want examples of great defense, correct?

But why do Big Ten teams often show up in the top echelon of these stats while other conferences are not often notable? Most observers of Big 12 and PAC teams say they those conferences are notable for poor defense. That's the first reaction when you see 80 or 90 combined points in a game. Even SEC games often have quite high scores.

Could it be because it's easier to defense and stop the run than the pass? I think so.

Since neither Wisconsin nor Iowa played Ohio State (yet) do we really know either or both have great defenses? Can either slow down the OSU attack that relies heavily on passing? If Wisconsin's performance against OSU in recent Indy games is any indication, the answer is no.

The Badgers gave up 28 to Nebraska, 38 to Michigan, and 41 to Notre Dame, all with good passing quarterbacks. By contrast they held Iowa and Northwestern to 7, both run heavy teams.

It's very difficult for a team to run for 300 yards. Yes, we did it twice with our great O line and excellent backs. Our superior size and strength allowed us to run for 500 yards against our two MAC opponents, right? No, well we should have looking at the games on paper beforehand.

But a good run defense can hold a running offense in check most of the time. The pass game is infinitely more difficult to defend which is why the national powers year after year rely on a balance of pass and run and get the majority of their yardage through the air. Minnesota/Fleck/Ciarocca 2019 is a good case in point.
 



What's your point?
Makes it a lot easier to have a great defense when you have a guy back there that can play run and pass equally well. But to your point I agree with what you are saying. Might not be great if they face a passing team. There is tOSU and everyone else. They really are playing good ball right now.
 

Makes it a lot easier to have a great defense when you have a guy back there that can play run and pass equally well. But to your point I agree with what you are saying. Might not be great if they face a passing team. There is tOSU and everyone else. They really are playing good ball right now.
Great defense needs more than one superior guy. AW was good enough to count as two. If anything he was best at run support, probably because he played in a running league.
 


This all depends upon how you evaluate defensive stats. If you're looking at yardage, points, and the traditional metrics - yes, they strongly skew towards benefitting defenses who play against other teams that run the football. That's largely because it shortens the game. If both teams are running the ball a bit more, it's almost like shaving half a quarter of the game off.

There is also just a difference in passing and running. A bad pass happy offense will likely score some points. They will get yards. But they will have other issues.

For example, the Big 10 only has two teams in the top 20 in the NCAA in TOs forced. They are not in the top 10 in the NCAA of sacks.

So yes, style of play impacts team defensive statistics drastically. Do I think that makes running harder to defend than passing? Again, that depends upon how you evaluate a defense.
 

The Badgers gave up 28 to Nebraska, 38 to Michigan, and 41 to Notre Dame, all with good passing quarterbacks. By contrast they held Iowa and Northwestern to 7, both run heavy teams.
Not to defend Wisconsin but I don't think their Michigan and Notre Dame games are good indicators of their defensive proficiency.

Notre Dame score 21 points in the 4th quarter on special teams and defense. Against Michigan in the second half Wisconsin's offense was on and off the field quickly and the defense was absolutely gassed for most of the half. Wisconsin's offense simply wasn't able to give the D much rest early in the season. As the saying goes, the best defense is a good offense.

Other than Nebraska it's hard to argue against Wisconsin as a top-tier defense. Sure, they may not hold up well against an Ohio State or Alabama, but other than Georgia, who would?
 

statistically speaking, a bad offense
 




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