What happens to Brew if Iowa State blows us out?

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Will it make a difference at this point, or is he here to stay? I would not be a happy guy to see him again next season if we lose.
 

wha?

Hell will have frozen over.
 

I don't see either team winning in that fashion, so I wouldn't worry about it affecting Brewster's tenure. I think it will be a very competitive game, based on watching each team this year. Both teams are getting much needed rest and some personnel back from injuries. It should be a fun game and I am looking forward to being there!
 

I don't see it happening unless Weber self destructs. If it does... it just makes the seat a little hotter going into next year. I don't see Coach Brewster getting canned after three unless there's more going on in the Athletic Offices than we are aware of.
 

if we get blown out by Iowa State we get a loss, nothing more.
 


The fans b!tch and moan all off season and we get a lot more "fire brewster" threads.

Some fans will also claim to no longer be fans.... the usual.
 

Letsgogophers said:
Will it make a difference at this point, or is he here to stay? I would not be a happy guy to see him again next season if we lose.
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If one loss is all it takes for him to be let go, then it would have happened already.
 

Letsgogophers said:
Will it make a difference at this point, or is he here to stay? I would not be a happy guy to see him again next season if we lose.
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Not sure. What happens to his job if a piece of the moon dislodges, rockets through space, ricochets off Jupiter and rebounds into TCF Bank Stadium? Sheesh!
 

Iowa State might win, but we're not good enough to blow out the Gophers. Pesonally, I'd love it, but would realistically I know it won't happen.
 



magpie said:
The fans b!tch and moan all off season and we get a lot more "fire brewster" threads.

Some fans will also claim to no longer be fans.... the usual.
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Spot on. On second thought, that may very well happen even if we win :rolleyes:
 

What happens...he hits the recruiting trail and starts preparing for spring practice. That's all...nothing more, nothing less.
 


magpie said:
The fans b!tch and moan all off season and we get a lot more "fire brewster" threads.

Some fans will also claim to no longer be fans.... the usual.
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Until spring practice when everyone will start getting excited for the fall.
 



Defense.

If Iowa couldn't blowout the Gs at home after racking-up big #s on tOSU, how will ISU?

Otoh, if the feeble offense remains feeble, the Gs could lose 3-0.

In any case, all the smoke signals from Joel indicate that we move on to 2010 with Brew at the helm.
 

If the Gophers blow out ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" screaming "where the hell was that all season?" & being upset.

If the Gophers narrowly beat ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" screaming "who cares about the win? We barely beat ISU."

If the Gophers lose to ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" that will continue to jabber about penalties, timeouts, clock management, and Tony Dungy.
 

FireDaveLee said:
If the Gophers blow out ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" screaming "where the hell was that all season?" & being upset.

If the Gophers narrowly beat ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" screaming "who cares about the win? We barely beat ISU."

If the Gophers lose to ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" that will continue to jabber about penalties, timeouts, clock management, and Tony Dungy.
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...and we should all agree tha Dave Lee should be fired.
 

FireDaveLee said:
If the Gophers blow out ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" screaming "where the hell was that all season?" & being upset.

If the Gophers narrowly beat ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" screaming "who cares about the win? We barely beat ISU."

If the Gophers lose to ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" that will continue to jabber about penalties, timeouts, clock management, and Tony Dungy.
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The sad thing is, there are some that would probably be a part of all of these large chunks of "fans". Some people just like to complain.
 

FireDaveLee said:
If the Gophers blow out ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" screaming "where the hell was that all season?" & being upset.

If the Gophers narrowly beat ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" screaming "who cares about the win? We barely beat ISU."

If the Gophers lose to ISU: You have a large chunk of "fans" that will continue to jabber about penalties, timeouts, clock management, and Tony Dungy.
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Which makes our bowl opponent a lose/lose situation. No offense to ISU, they really are not a sexy enough foe to generate excitement if we beat them, and they're sure to generate extreme negativity if we lose to them. It's a tough situation to be in. However, that bed was made with the uninspiring play of the team throughout the entire season, especially in November.

There really isn't any Insight Bowl outcome that can make us look at this season as really satisfying. ISU just isn't that impressive, we didn't win one trophy game, and the most impressive victories of the season came against NW and MSU. Finally, if Brewster and the Gophers want to be taken seriously by recruits, fans, and the media, they need to put up a better fight in their shiny new stadium. 4-3 (2-2 BT) at home is a putrid record.

It hasn't been that long ago that we beat both Oregon and Alabama in bowl games. Now both are playing in BCS bowls with the Tide playing for all the marbles. Frustrating to say the least.
 

Bronko Nagurski Gopher said:
what happens to coach rhoades if minnesota blows out isu?
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He gets lauded for taking a 2 win team and turning it into a 6 win team in just his first season. Sometime first year coaches make a team better in year one...not year five.
 

Letsgogophers said:
Will it make a difference at this point, or is he here to stay? I would not be a happy guy to see him again next season if we lose.
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So if we get blown out or just lose, you want him fired? Fair enough, let's say he blows out out Iowa St does that mean we give him and extra 5 years? In my mind that's the analogy your giving us, if we lose Brew sucks, if we win he is safe for years to come!

I'm a Brew fan but I think no matter what happens he should be here 2 more years. That being said, I believe if we get blown out by Iowa St, go .500 again next year we need to be proactive and begin our search for a new coach. But if win or lose in a competitive game and we show obvious improvement next season we can easliy see we have our program building coach. I think there are a lot of "what ifs" and we will know by this time next season what Brewster and our programs fate will be!
 

If the Gophers were blown out in this game, yes, it would be quite the public relations disaster considering the media heat already on the guy. But in the overall grand scheme of things it would mean little.

That said, I highly doubt we get blown out considering only OSU really "blew us out" this year. The Gophers were at least competitive in all of their games and I don't expect this one to be any different. I think it's gonna be a tight one.
 

The only way Brewster gets fired in the event of a Gophers loss is if Maturi and Bruininks visit the locker room after the game and Brewster acts like Mason did after the Texas Tech game.
 

Coaches aren't fired on the basis of bowl game results. Especially Insight Bowl results.

Don't expect the cow to jump over the moon twice in your lifetime.
 

Goldmember said:
Coaches aren't fired on the basis of bowl game results. Especially Insight Bowl results.

Don't expect the cow to jump over the moon twice in your lifetime.
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I could not agree more. Winning football games is very important to Brewster. Everyone sees that - including Maturi and Bruininks. The same cannot be said of Mason who was way too satisfied with a Big 10 record of 32 -48, and a collection of second rate bowl games.
 

Goldmember said:
Coaches aren't fired on the basis of bowl game results. Especially Insight Bowl results.

Don't expect the cow to jump over the moon twice in your lifetime.
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No coach should ever be fired over the result of a Bowl Game that airs on NFL Network. It shouldn't have happened once, if it happens again, the man doing the firing is the problem.
 

I am beginning to hate the whole Brewster regime and their bullsh*t with every fiber of my being. Having said that, even I'd give Brewster another year to try and sort things out. I'd even give him the faux extension (with no money added to the buyout) as a measure of goodwill and a possible boost to this recruiting season. Quite simply, it will hurt our program less to keep him than it would to get rid of him right now. And hell, if he somehow gives us the opportunity to rush the field next year, I'd even be happy for the guy.
 


skiumah2 said:
Which makes our bowl opponent a lose/lose situation. No offense to ISU, they really are not a sexy enough foe to generate excitement if we beat them, and they're sure to generate extreme negativity if we lose to them. It's a tough situation to be in. However, that bed was made with the uninspiring play of the team throughout the entire season, especially in November.

There really isn't any Insight Bowl outcome that can make us look at this season as really satisfying. ISU just isn't that impressive, we didn't win one trophy game, and the most impressive victories of the season came against NW and MSU. Finally, if Brewster and the Gophers want to be taken seriously by recruits, fans, and the media, they need to put up a better fight in their shiny new stadium. 4-3 (2-2 BT) at home is a putrid record.

It hasn't been that long ago that we beat both Oregon and Alabama in bowl games. Now both are playing in BCS bowls with the Tide playing for all the marbles. Frustrating to say the least.
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I agree with your first paragraph, it's like playing a MAC team, lose lose situation. The Oregon Alabama comparison is a bit of a stretch. Alabama was only five or so years from a National Championship they had won in 91 or 92 and they were in the middle of some heavy NCAA Penalties when we beat them were they not? Point I'm trying to make is those were down years for those teams, and good years for us. They are at the next level so its hard to compare to them I think
 

Actually, it is not at all like playing a MAC team and isn't a lose/lose for wither team. Again, these two FB programs have been on similar paths for a while now, through the Wacker/Walden and the Mason/McCarney years, if not longer. After the latter both peaked with 9-3 seasons and mid to lower-tier bowls, the fan bases lost faith in Mas and Mac (especially after missed FGs in '04and '05 kept ISU from winning the North Div. Title). As a result, both programs broke in new coaches in 2006.

Enter Chizik and Brewster. Chizik had a slightly better first year, but Brewster had a much better second year. Chizik moves to Auburn and ISU hires Rhoads; who's team won more games in '09 than Chizik did in two years. Many Gopher fans are disappointed with Brewster's 6-6 record and many Cyclone fans would be equally as disappointed, if Chizik was the one that lead ISU to 6-6 this year.

However, after going 2-10 in '08; the ISU base is very pleased with Rhoads. He erased a number of bad "streaks" that started in Mac's last year and got worse with Chizik. Rhoads '09 Cyclones snapped a 17(?) road game loss streak, broke a 8 game conference losing streak, beat Nebraska in Lincoln for the first time since '77, Bowl game in first year, etc.

This has led to optimism in the Cyclone fan base and excitement for a bowl especially; when one could argue we "jumped" two other B12 teams to get to the Insight. That same kind optimism isn't shared by Gopher fans, who on year 3 of the Brewster era and are a game worse this year. I will excuse the "lose/lose" comments, because I believe is more about disappointment with Brewster/Gophers.

However, both team are in the same position...with the exception of tenure and enthusiasm for the head coach. For many the match-up isn't very sexy, but it should be a very good competitive game. I am more excited about it, because of the local angle for me. Reality is it means about the same for both teams...the winner will finish with a *winning* season, the loser will not. It, of course, we be another win over a bowl team for the winner too. Plus, the winner will have defeated a BCS conference foe, which is much better than beating an actual "MAC team". I know, because I enjoyed ISU's bowl win over Pitt more than I did the bowl win over Miami (OH). A bowl win, along with a extension, will help Brewster. A bowl win in his first year will help Rhoads. There are wins/positives here for for both programs.

Anyway, as someone who has followed both programs; it is not fair or accurate to suggest that this is a "lose/lose" for Minnesota or that it is "like playing a MAC team".
 

StPaulCyclone said:
Anyway, as someone who has followed both programs; it is not fair or accurate to suggest that this is a "lose/lose" for Minnesota or that it is "like playing a MAC team".
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It is extremely fair in the sense of how the TC media is treating/will treat the game....of course, that's why we hate the TC media.
 

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