TonyLiebert
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If Fox can average half of what he did across the board that would be fantastic. If Ihnen can perform like he did the last 6 games of his freshman year and play relaxed and confident we will be in even better shape.
If we can get rebounding out of him, that would be awesome. Considering last year's team often played 4 forwards at a time, the rebounding differentials were terrible. They were so slow that they often conceded the offensive rebound opportunity to run down to the defensive end to get back in time to not get burned by a faster team. If he can provide reliable rebounding and defense when he's playing, I'd say that's a win.I think what we can expect from Parker Fox has a lot more to do with his health than his 20-21 stats.
If he is healthy I would expect a junkyard dog rebounder and defender more than scoring. We could use that!
Same. Expect little, and be happy with anything beyond that. Personally, I find the expectations for two players who have not seen the floor in almost three years being anything more than minimal to be completely unrealistic.Personally I’m not expecting much. Hopefully I’ll be surprised and they are contributing players, but as of now I have no expectations of much out of either of them.
I'm thinking the law of averages might even be a bit optimistic on this one.Interesting question.
What I hope is both will be functional, in-the-rotation contributors.
What I expect (law of averages?) is only one will be a true difference-maker. ... roughly defining "difference-maker" as a guy who plays at least 20-25 mpg.
Thank you for the research on your headline. I appreciate the interviews with Ben, all the asst coaches, their teammates, and the interviews with Ihnen and Fox. Your observations from the pickup games in the gym was encouraging. Thanks! Keep up the good work!
Well he did have in excess of 50 D1 offers out of the portal. So there were at least 50 programs expected something out of him.Personally I’m not expecting much. Hopefully I’ll be surprised and they are contributing players, but as of now I have no expectations of much out of either of them.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Grayson Grove signing. But to be honest is it harder to be a star at Alexandria High School in the Arrowhead conference? Or to be the best player in all of Division 2 basketball? Of 304 D2 basketball programs. Fox had 22.3 points 9.9 rebounds per game with 55 assists, 74 blocks and 80 dunks his Junior year. Playing a game at St. Cloud State he had 21 points and 21 rebounds. (maybe more than one could expect from Grayson at this point in his development).Well he did have in excess of 50 D1 offers out of the portal. So there were at least 50 programs expected something out of him.
Was Fox a star after his junior year of high school? That would seem to be a more accurate comparison. If memory serves, Fox was redshirted as a freshman.Don't get me wrong, I love the Grayson Grove signing. But to be honest is it harder to be a star at Alexandria High School in the Arrowhead conference? Or to be the best player in all of Division 2 basketball? Of 304 D2 basketball programs. Fox had 22.3 points 9.9 rebounds per game with 55 assists, 74 blocks and 80 dunks his Junior year. Playing a game at St. Cloud State he had 21 points and 21 rebounds. (maybe more than one could expect from Grayson at this point in his development).
What I really liked from his signing was a quote by one of the leaders on his team, guard Andrew Kallman said - "To have someone with his level of skill is huge. It makes everyone else look better...He brings a ton of energy to the floor and his intensity is next level for sure."
Saul Phillips his D2 Coach; He is our swagger. ..dunking all over the place. He's a leader, a transcendent player. He absolutely changes the game every time he steps on the floor and you can't say that about many people. You can see with his athleticism that he is a freak of nature, it is definitely different from anything I have experienced in the past." By the way Saul Phillips spent 5 years as head coach at Ohio University (best year 23-12) and 8 years as head coach at North Dakota State where he was 134-84. (best season 26-7) At North Dakota State he won Summit League twice and was in NCAA tournament twice. He was Summit League coach of the year in 2009 and 2013.
Another guard on that team was Mason Stark who said, "It is incredible to be on this team and play with Parker Fox. He makes it easier." Both of these guards went to D1 teams through the portal - Andrew was a minor role player at North Dakota State and Mason started 21 games at Northern Arizona playing against Arizona, Washington, Gonzaga among others.
Anyway, all I am saying is that there is some hope if he physically recovers that he could contribute. "Not expecting much" and"no expectations" may be little overly pessimistic for Parker Fox.
Hey if we can get that I’d be shocked!I hope they can contribute, but im afraid they won't be able too. I'd say combined, maybe something like 7 ppg and 5 rpg.
Who cares about how many points and rebounds? We have to know how many minutes at how many positions!!! The whole season will pivot on that predicted minutia. As one of our basketball gods you have let us know.I hope they can contribute, but im afraid they won't be able too. I'd say combined, maybe something like 7 ppg and 5 rpg.
Who cares about how many points and rebounds? We have to know how many minutes at how many positions!!! The whole season will pivot on that predicted minutia. As one of our basketball gods you have let us know.
You were probably confused by Pilgrim's post, he is still just having a hissy fit about a one off comment three weeks ago. He's been wrong about everything for two years, so he is a bit on tilt.If they play at all, I'd like them to be productive. I have my doubts, so hopefully they can. We'll be super thin if they give us nothing.
You have to admit that was a real goofy post you made. You are usually much better on sports than you have been since you fell into the CBJ funk. You’re knowledgeable and a true Gopher fan. Pull yourself out of it, man.You were probably confused by Pilgrim's post, he is still just having a hissy fit about a one off comment three weeks ago. He's been wrong about everything for two years, so he is a bit on tilt.
And I complained about Pitino’s last minute late Spring adds. The devil ya know….If they play at all, I'd like them to be productive. I have my doubts, so hopefully they can. We'll be super thin if they give us nothing.
Pretty sure that anybody who's closely watched, or better yet, coached basketball for many years, has at least a couple of stories about players who suffered major knee injuries.We need Fox and Ihnen to be able to play like the extraordinary athletes they are. I have no idea if that is going to happen but one ACL is bad and two lowers the odds of recovery dramatically. Be awesome for those guys and the Gophers if it could happen that they are productive consistent performers. They deserve some good fortune!
Bga literally asked me to break down the minutes. He literally said "do the whole roster". Of all of the things you've posted (rape apology, obsession over wingspans, changing screen names, illuminati taking down Gopher sports, demanding people pay HS athletes, pretending to be launching a midwest NIL program for Gophers, etc.) and you think talking about what positions a player on the basketball team can play is goofy? You don't live in reality.You have to admit that was a real goofy post you made. You are usually much better on sports than you have been since you fell into the CBJ funk. You’re knowledgeable and a true Gopher fan. Pull yourself out of it, man.
BTW, there are under the radar reports that Ihnen and Fox are looking good. We will see. We need Fox’s skill set this year. It is up to Ihnen to prove his value this year but he best fits our positions of strength.