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MaxyJR1 said:
They will have to overpay for the position if it comes to that.
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I am pretty sure they already have to overpay. Poor programs in tough conferences tend to have to do that. I honestly think minnesota should have gone the south Carolina route and hired a retread even if they have to vastly overpay.

How much more they'd have to pay is immeasurable because every coach demands a different number. I don't Disagree with you though.
 

Rosemountian said:
I am pretty sure they already have to overpay. Poor programs in tough conferences tend to have to do that. I honestly think minnesota should have gone the south Carolina route and hired a retread even if they have to vastly overpay.

How much more they'd have to pay is immeasurable because every coach demands a different number. I don't Disagree with you though.
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A retread will likely be the move if it comes to that. I still have faith in Coach Kill.
 

I don't think anyone can be close to making a decision yet. Especially with the health problems distraction. I just don't like what I've seen so far. There is still time.
 

GopherinPhilly said:
The stars ranking system in rivals is 100% based on potential at the NCAA level. So yes, on field performance against substandard competition will be marginalized (not completely but mostly) in favor of 40 times, bench, camp performance etc where technique is a much larger part of the evaluation process.

That is why players like Decker who never got invited to Nike camps and Tx or Fl camps was not sufficiently evaluated...and while he was very successful against shoddy MN talent in HS...it didn't translate into high stars. Take McNeal on the other hand...had great measurables at camps and was rewarded with more stars...but hasn't done anything in college and was beaten out this year by a true FR at Clemson before he quit.
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It's just an inexact science. It is just one of the indicators of success. The people that think rivals and scout are gospel are lost, but so are the people who ignore the mathematical fact that recruiting rankings DO matter (not always and not always exact, but they are mathematically relevant).
 

lakesgopher said:
I watched D-line drills as they worked on some basic techniques-some of you act as if these kids have never been coached the basics and they have 6 left feet, only 1 arm with 5 thumbs! most of these kids came from very good high school football programs with former college players teaching them. they have the basics and they are very good athletes i just dont believe they have been put in positions for success! it wasnt that long ago that nearly everyone on this board was pimping brewsters ability to coach defense and now our kids are handicapped and ride the short bus, its unbelievable.
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I don't mean this in a bad way, but I am assuming you've never been around a HS football program that sounds out a lot of Division 1 caliber athletes. I am saying this because kids who are THAT talented don't rely on technique. They don't have to and they often learn bad habits because they are so used to dominating people with nothing but their athletic ability. It is a whole nother world as far as technique when you go from HS to college and this is even for the most well prepared kids in the country.

It can even happen in a more macro-level. I remember when I played football at Cretin and we were still in the St. Paul City conference and we rarely had tough games. It was such an ordeal that we'd often get chewed out watching film after the game on plays where we dominated and the coach would say "your technique is garbage, when you play a kid as talented as you, he will whip you".

My point....kids who are talented often succeed in HS without much technique. The kids who go to schools that regularily send kids to D1 programs learn technique, but nowhere near the level that you learn in college. It's a considerably more complicated game.
 



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