We need to put those championship banners up NOW

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Hey, we can take advantage of this! Dump a ton of money, get the best players, cheat as much as we want, then don't bring any of them back and we face no repercussions.
 

SelectionSunday said:
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I do get the tough spot where you are punishing a team for the actions of people who are no longer associated with the team. That said, in this era players can easily move to another school so if they don't like the ban then they can transfer. Any punishment that doesn't involve a post season ban is not a punishment.

And as for the banners.....I agree 1000% that we should hang them up!
 







disco said:
I agree. Hang the banners.

But to be fair, the CFP championship is not an NCAA championship so there's nothing to strip.
The current NCAA Division 1 football champions are NDSU.
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In addition to the NCAA having no jurisdiction on the CFP, prior to the playoffs the Michigan transgressors were punished through dismissal or suspension (Harbaugh missed several games).

By the time the the CFP rolled around they were on the level presumably.

I do not see how there was any remote expectation that the CFP Title would somehow be invalidated.

I believe the Gopher Basketball team still gets credit for the 1999 NCAA Tournament appearance, even though every game up to that point was Vacated.

There where not any ineligible players used against Gonzaga.
 
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go_gophers said:
I don't care if the NCAA or B1G don't like it. Bring back Clem (while we still can) and the players and hang those banners.
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I am in the minority here. Drives me crazy when they bring Clem back and fans love him. He knew the rules, he cheated and he got caught. Do I forgive him? Yes. Does he belong on campus and the banners hung? No way.
 

Swaggerson said:
I am in the minority here. Drives me crazy when they bring Clem back and fans love him. He knew the rules, he cheated and he got caught. Do I forgive him? Yes. Does he belong on campus and the banners hung? No way.
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Rather have a dirty program that wins than the trash we've been stuck with for decades.
 


Swaggerson said:
Based on the sentiment of many on this board, you are not alone.
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Talk to my North Carolina buddies.

The reality is that receiving "assistance" has been happening at blue blood schools for half a century while the NCAA turned a blind eye. I am all for justice, but that would require a vast amount of teams having their banners taken down.
 


FinnGopher said:
Talk to my North Carolina buddies.

The reality is that receiving "assistance" has been happening at blue blood schools for half a century while the NCAA turned a blind eye. I am all for justice, but that would require a vast amount of teams having their banners taken down.
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No doubt there is favoritism to the blue bloods and the penalties they receive or do not receive. That is irrelevant. If you are going 70 in a 55 mph zone and get a ticket, you deserve it (me too). The fact that someone else was going 72 and did not get stopped has no bearing on your ticket.
 

Swaggerson said:
No doubt there is favoritism to the blue bloods and the penalties they receive or do not receive. That is irrelevant. If you are going 70 in a 55 mph zone and get a ticket, you deserve it (me too). The fact that someone else was going 72 and did not get stopped has no bearing on your ticket.
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At what point do you quit feeling guilty that you got a speeding ticket? You are sounding like an absolutist obsessive: there is only black and white, gray does not exist.

What happens when you find out the radar gun was grossly out of calibration and added MPH to the reading of your speed?

We have to stop punishing this program for being honest. We stood up, faced the music, and took more of a punishment than other schools would have gotten.

The NCAA has become such a weak governing body that not hanging the banners makes us look pathetic, mewling and impotent compared to other D1 schools.

Then again maybe we should stay frozen in time because of our transgressions. Maybe we should deny that we learned something from this incident. Refusing to acknowledge growth from learning episodes does really fit the profile of an educational organization after all.
 

Ewert86PC said:
At what point do you quit feeling guilty that you got a speeding ticket? You are sounding like an absolutist obsessive: there is only black and white, gray does not exist.

What happens when you find out the radar gun was grossly out of calibration and added MPH to the reading of your speed?

We have to stop punishing this program for being honest. We stood up, faced the music, and took more of a punishment than other schools would have gotten.

The NCAA has become such a weak governing body that not hanging the banners makes us look pathetic, mewling and impotent compared to other D1 schools.

Then again maybe we should stay frozen in time because of our transgressions. Maybe we should deny that we learned something from this incident. Refusing to acknowledge growth from learning episodes does really fit the profile of an educational organization after all.
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Change the word this to any.

It seems that programs that turn themselves in get greater punishment than those who fight.
 

Swaggerson said:
No doubt there is favoritism to the blue bloods and the penalties they receive or do not receive. That is irrelevant. If you are going 70 in a 55 mph zone and get a ticket, you deserve it (me too). The fact that someone else was going 72 and did not get stopped has no bearing on your ticket.
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Lucky for us we were going 45 in a 50 and then reported it as 51. Meanwhile UNC lapped us 15 times and took their penalty to court where they were given no fine.
 

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