Wally Ellenson commits

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The Wally comment about HIM being a headcase is completely over blown. He has been in some tough situations down the road, but his friends know what kind of kid he is...well liked by those who know him.
 

As I stated before, he's certainly not going to be the cornerstone of Tubby's 2012 class, but he could be a solid piece of a larger puzzle. Welcome...
 

If both Wally and Jodan are signed then it would seem that Tubby is attempting to "recruit over" some of the existing guards. If that is the case then we should expect some of the current guards to transfer after this year leaving 4 or 5 eventual scholarships for 2012.
 

SelectionSunday said:
A good friend of mine is pretty tuned in to the Cheesehead basketball scene and these were his observations about Ellenson:

1. Ellenson is a fantastic athlete, a 6-10 high jumper in HS, and he can shoot it. He told me the comparisons to Slammin' Sammy make sense to him, but coming out of HS he wouldn't quite put him in Sam's category.

2. The concern that he is a complete head case (along with his father) is legitimate. The "C" word is the word he used. He said there's a reason Bo didn't make him one of his top priorities. Bo was rather indifferent on a pretty good in-state prospect whose father played for the Badgers? That tells me something.

Don't follow recruiting much, but from what I can gather it's a solid signing. Anyone being compared to Sam is a good start. It sounds to me like he could be similar to Rodney, but in the end a better shooter. I'm a little worried about the "C" word thing (see Devoe Joseph's body language for much of his Gopher career), but if Tubby can handle Lawrence (who I liked) and Mr. Westbrook, I'm sure he can handle the Ellenson kid and his father.
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not meant to sound stupid, but what is the 'C' word thing you speak of?
 





I think that one only applies to a certain type of woman, a curse word even worse than the "F" bomb.:eek:
 

Love this site. I say that Wally is not a great fit for the program and get light up for that comment. Others speculate he might be a cancer based on COMPLETE speculation and it's okay. So if I'm understanding this clearly, it's bad to question the style of offense played in Minnesota but okay to attach negativity to a 17 year old NOBODY on this site most likely knows or has EVER seen play.

Just so I'm understanding this site's MO.
 




You still don't understand why you were "light" up. That's the problem.

Duthasmon Smith said:
Love this site. I say that Wally is not a great fit for the program and get light up for that comment. Others speculate he might be a cancer based on COMPLETE speculation and it's okay. So if I'm understanding this clearly, it's bad to question the style of offense played in Minnesota but okay to attach negativity to a 17 year old NOBODY on this site most likely knows or has EVER seen play.

Just so I'm understanding this site's MO.
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The point is you come to the defense of your "offense" and not to the defense of one of the players. That's the problem. But since you responded, I'd be curious to know why you don't defend players as vehemently as you do protest a style of offense comment? Ensure your response is free of any spelling or grammatical errors as well.
 

Duthasmon Smith said:
The point is you come to the defense of your "offense" and not to the defense of one of the players. That's the problem. But since you responded, I'd be curious to know why you don't defend players as vehemently as you do protest a style of offense comment? Ensure your response is free of any spelling or grammatical errors as well.
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You answered your own question earlier. A style of offense from Tubby Smith and Bob Huggins we have all seen. There are stats to back it up, there is watching games, etc. It is easy to defend and argue something we have all seen and can look up.

The attitude of Wally Ellenson is unknown by every person on this board (unless someone has met him and played with him on a team) so it makes it more difficult to defend. You won't ever read me defending how funny and kind Kim Kardashian is because I don't know her and never watched her show, you'd have to ask Kris about that. There were reports from others saying Ellenson had a bad attitude, no idea if they are true or not. The only thing that should have been said is, "I have no clue if that's true, we will have to see when he arrives on campus" but it is tough to defend something you have no knowledge of.
 



Fair enough. Still find not a fan of throwing out accusations about one of our "commits" like the ole "cancer" comment.
 

loosen up main

Duthasmon Smith said:
Ensure your response is free of any spelling or grammatical errors as well.
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This is a message board not English Writing 8180. I didn't read his post, but I could give a *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# less if he had any spelling or grammatical errors.
 


Duthasmon Smith said:
Love this site. I say that Wally is not a great fit for the program and get light up for that comment. Others speculate he might be a cancer based on COMPLETE speculation and it's okay. So if I'm understanding this clearly, it's bad to question the style of offense played in Minnesota but okay to attach negativity to a 17 year old NOBODY on this site most likely knows or has EVER seen play.

Just so I'm understanding this site's MO.
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It's because you stated something that can be objectively proven false based on statistics while the "C word" talk is speculation and/or secondhand information. Also, I know for a fact that at least one person who has posted in this thread has seen Wally play. FWIW, I completely agree with your overall point that we shouldn't be ragging on a high school recruit, especially one who just committed to give Gopher BB his all for the next four years.
 

I hope you've figured it out by now. You've only been told why you got so much crap about 10x. In case you didn't understand the first time I told you... here you go again...

underground629 said:
Once again you've argued something unrelated to what people confronted you about: "The legitimate concern for Wally is style of play. Does he want to go to the U and grind it out over the next 4 years as the Gophers are apt to do or play the uptempo style at WVU for example which clearly fits his style." I like how you talk about others providing opinions without knowledge on a subject. WVU doesn't play uptempo. You then tried to recover by saying Huggins did at Cincy. Also false. Now you're asking why Wally is a good fit here to once again avoid why you were originally confronted.

I don't deny that you've seen these recruits play more than most people on here. That's your safety net for debates about players. The problem is that you make matter-of-fact statements about players/programs/coaches and can't handle people either disagreeing or calling you out on a false statement.
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I could care less what YOU think. You could care less what I think. It's an opinion board. Let it go. Still you don't defend your guy but you defend your system.
 


Duthasmon Smith said:
I could care less what YOU think. You could care less what I think. It's an opinion board. Let it go. Still you don't defend your guy but <b>you defend your system.</b>
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You are in complete denial about why you got "jumped on." It was far, far less about defending tubby's style (which countless people having taken shots at on this board.) It was much more about bringing you up to reality on Huggin's style, which for some reason you think is 1991 UNLV. It can be shown by multiple statistics that you were wrong about Huggins. The ellenson talk, whole probably tasteless, is pure opinion and speculation. You're opinion on Huggins can be directly refuted with facts. That's it. What is so hard to understand about that?
 


Typical Duthasmon Smith. Lose an argument, refuse to acknowledge it, then argue something else. At least you don't care though...

Duthasmon Smith said:
I could care less what YOU think. You could care less what I think. It's an opinion board. Let it go. Still you don't defend your guy but you defend your system.
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It's useless at this point. All of us have told him that same reason. He still doesn't get it or just won't acknowledge it because he knows he's wrong. I'm embarrassed for him at this point. Maybe now he'll switch to the argument about us being internet tough guys not using real names or the maroon glasses one if we're lucky.

ColNathanJessup said:
You are in complete denial about why you got "jumped on." It was far, far less about defending tubby's style (which countless people having taken shots at on this board.) It was much more about bringing you up to reality on Huggin's style, which for some reason you think is 1991 UNLV. It can be shown by multiple statistics that you were wrong about Huggins. The ellenson talk, whole probably tasteless, is pure opinion and speculation. You're opinion on Huggins can be directly refuted with facts. That's it. What is so hard to understand about that?
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Sherron Dorsey-Walker was considering the gophs till we locked in Wally

I guess Sherron Dorsey-Walker was considering the gophs till we locked in Wally

Strengths:
This long and thin shooting guard can score. He runs the outside lane in transition where he can get to the rim with a clear path and spot up for open three's when he gets his feet set. Sherron is good in the open court and can easily bounce into ...
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-...sports/basketball/recruiting/player?id=104011

From the below link
"Sherron Dorsey-Walker, one of the top players in the 2012 class in the state of Michigan has scheduled some upcoming visits.

He will be at Temple September 9-10, Boston College September 16-17 or the following weekend, and Iowa State is going to be the 7th and 8th of October.

Dorsey-Walker, who originally told me a while back that he was close to committing, decided to step back and take all of his allotted visits before proceeding with a decision.

The 6-foot-4 shooting guard has extraordinary range, and also does a good job of seeing the floor.

Dorsey-Walker said that Minnesota is now out of the mix because of Wally Ellenson’s recent commitment to the Gophers.
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http://eagleoutsider.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55&start=2760
 

Reading between the lines, Dorsey-Walker was close to committing to the Gophers, they took Ellenson and now he has decided to re-evaluate his options? I think Ellenson's West Virginia and Oklahoma State offers obviously trump Boston College and Iowa State, but Dorsey-Walker seems to be rated higher by the recruiting sites.
 

I would've taken Dorsey-Walker, he can play the 1 and 2, and 3 in a 3 gaurd line-up, not to mention he has a nice shot, and can create his own. Not sure if Wally is gonna be much of a scorer at the D1 level. Not sure what is role will be.
 


More shots than Joe, Andre, Oto, Austin, Mo, etc..? I don't see him being better than any of those players until at least his junior, maybe senior year. If that
 

We have not had a chance to see Andre, Joe, Oto, Elliott, Ingram, Welch, or Halverson play in a game as a Gopher yet and now we can enjoy speculating on Wally for a year as he develops. It would be crazy fun to have Tyus Jones commit. Tubby makes following Gopher basketball fun.

Go Gophers
 

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