Urban Meyer Criticizes NCAA Enforcement

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Interesting that he waits until after he leaves college football. Does he really think that as the head coach of Florida that his primary job was to get his players ready for the real world. He was paid all the $$$$$ to win games and National Championships. Looking at his recruits is he going to say that he got all these 5* guys based on his integrity and high moral standards!
1)Would USC been put on probation if the agent did have all the evidence?
2)Should Auburn have been scrutinized a little more after the Cam Newton problems?
3) Or is he saying that as the rules have become more lax, that it is becoming harder to recruit these 5* guys and he has already made his mark in college football and so on to broadcastering.
 

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we will win this week? said:
Interesting that he waits until after he leaves college football. Does he really think that as the head coach of Florida that his primary job was to get his players ready for the real world. He was paid all the $$$$$ to win games and National Championships. Looking at his recruits is he going to say that he got all these 5* guys based on his integrity and high moral standards!
1)Would USC been put on probation if the agent did have all the evidence?
2)Should Auburn have been scrutinized a little more after the Cam Newton problems?
3) Or is he saying that as the rules have become more lax, that it is becoming harder to recruit these 5* guys and he has already made his mark in college football and so on to broadcastering.
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You can question where he is coming from and what his values are, but he has made it perfectly clear that today the reward for cheating is greater than than the risk. This climate of looking the other way will continue until enough people say enough is enough. Enough said.
 

Killjoy said:
You can question where he is coming from and what his values are, but he has made it perfectly clear that today the reward for cheating is greater than than the risk. This climate of looking the other way will continue until enough people say enough is enough. Enough said.
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The reward for cheating has always send people to the dark side and I am sure that if the climate is changed, people will just find more creative ways to cheat.
 

He is probably talking about minor violations more than major violations. If proof of Major Violations can be proven the NCAA comes down hard pretty much regardless of the program that it happens to. Minor Violations occur multiple times per season by many schools, and nothing ever happens.

If a program commits a violation but in no way is punished or threatened to be punished more harshly in the future due to it.....did they really commit a violation?
 


I think you are mostly wrong about the minor violations assumption, unless you consider things like illegal contact minor violations. The problem is they happen so massively with some programs they are actually major in scope, just due to the frequency. With the exception of Florida, Georgia, and Vanderbilt it is hard to see any evidence based on history, or the behavior of the unversity leadership, that the leadership at any SEC school is unwilling to cheat to win.
It has virtually always been this way, and most of the schools would much rather cheat and win than take the chance on being a loser by playing it straight. They can also make the legitimate claim in their conference that everybody else is doing it, and they are mostly right in the SEC.
To be honest the NCAA does not really have the resources to investigate much beyond cases which blow up due to the incompetence of the people involved.
 

I consider things labeled by the Ncaa as "minor violations" minor violations.
Like you said, there are many schools that have proven they are willing to cheat to win. How many minor violations have been committed in the SEC in the past 5 years? If their was actually a punishment for them, they would decrease (or be covered up better).


"The problem is they happen so massively with some programs they are actually major in scope"
This is exactly what I am saying should be happening. But in the current state of things you can essentially commit as many minor violations as you want to and never even get a slap on the wrist or threat of punishment. That needs to change. Minor violations need to be punished. If they are not going to be punished, you may as well stop making rules about them so that the playing field is leveled for those actually following the rules.
 

In a BILLION DOLLAR industry with sportsmanship, integrity and academics as cornerstones it is paramount for the NCAA to invest in some quality control. The lack of oversight is unforgivable. This is not some cash-straped govt agency, it is big time sports.

By comparison (yes, with many less teams but go with me) the NFL, NBA and MLB are very attentive (now) to the quality of the teams, players form a PR, operations and fairness standpoint. Flat out rule breaking is not allowed and if revealed-stiff punishment. This is so far from the case with NCAA is is laughable.

Professional leagues are very concerned with their "product" as if it is perceived to be bad, crooked, or just plain wrong...everyone eventually leaves--Fans, Sponsors and TV...but this common sense does not make its way to the high and mighty NCAA-yet.
 

THE Chitown Gopher said:
In a BILLION DOLLAR industry with sportsmanship, integrity and academics as cornerstones it is paramount for the NCAA to invest in some quality control. The lack of oversight is unforgivable. This is not some cash-straped govt agency, it is big time sports.

By comparison (yes, with many less teams but go with me) the NFL, NBA and MLB are very attentive (now) to the quality of the teams, players form a PR, operations and fairness standpoint. Flat out rule breaking is not allowed and if revealed-stiff punishment. This is so far from the case with NCAA is is laughable.

Professional leagues are very concerned with their "product" as if it is perceived to be bad, crooked, or just plain wrong...everyone eventually leaves--Fans, Sponsors and TV...but this common sense does not make its way to the high and mighty NCAA-yet.
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I would insert the word 'formerly' in that first sentance, but yes I agree.
 



This is just another symptom of the post-Baby Boomers who want to see how much they can get away with, because it isn't illegal if you don't get caught.

Look at all the deregulations (financial, airline, telecom, broadcast media, et al) and the problems created by a "wild, wild west mentality" in those industries. TARP would never have had to happen IF adequate funding and support for enforcing the existing regulations and laws in the financial services industry.
 

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