UCF coach Scott Frost on what he learned from Nebraska: "Don't take the wrong job."

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GopherWeatherGuy said:
Sounds like a guy who’s bitter about being fired because he was a complete failure despite having all the resources in the world at his disposal.
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Spaulding!No! said:
He is 100% correct.
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Yes on both counts

Problem is, Nebraska is a medium fish in a big pond
Frost won at UCF as a medium fish in a small pond.

You don’t necessarily win with the same style and strategy in those two situations.

Now UCF is a medium fish in a medium pond. So I’ll be curious how he does.
My guess is better than he did at Nebraska but not 12-0 like last time.
 

Zeppelin Gopher said:
He should've said "don't party your ass off, get drunk and smoke dabs everyday, show up hungover/late to practice, and spend more time in the Huskers golf simulator than recruiting".
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Well he could be alluding to it was easier for him to make the right choices when he had more anonymity in Orlando than when he was back home as a local celebrity

He didn’t say Nebraska was a bad job. He said it was the wrong job for him
 



Some guy said:
Well he could be alluding to it was easier for him to make the right choices when he had more anonymity in Orlando than when he was back home as a local celebrity
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Interesting. I'd almost think the opposite should be true, where if you're in Florida among tons of people and stuff, that's when you should do the stuff you don't want people to see.

Some guy said:
He didn’t say Nebraska was a bad job. He said it was the wrong job for him
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I hate to strike your last few words, but I think it just sounds better without the "for him" haha.
 


GopherTheJugular said:
Interesting. I'd almost think the opposite should be true, where if you're in Florida among tons of people and stuff, that's when you should do the stuff you don't want people to see.


I hate to strike your last few words, but I think it just sounds better without the "for him" haha.
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Maybe. But I imagine opportunities come pretty often when you’re a Nebraska legend living in Lincoln

When you have a problem as he is alleged to have, the opportunity sometimes is too much to pass up.

Texas coach had same problem in Los Angeles
 




Spaulding!No! said:
He is 100% correct.
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So you believe Frost when he says he didn’t want to take the Nebby job, but was pushed into it?

Frost said, “I got tugged in a direction to try to help my alma mater and didn't really want to do it.”
 

WAGopher said:
So you believe Frost when he says he didn’t want to take the Nebby job, but was pushed into it?

Frost said, “I got tugged in a direction to try to help my alma mater and didn't really want to do it.”
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That’s super believable in my opinion

You don’t want to take a job and everyone you ever met is like…come on. It’s destiny. And you talk yourself into it and regret it
 

Some guy said:
That’s super believable in my opinion

You don’t want to take a job and everyone you ever met is like…come on. It’s destiny. And you talk yourself into it and regret it
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Could be, but I think it’s more likely he saw an opportunity to go home and lead his Huskers back to greatness.
 


It is quite amusing listening to Frost attempt to impart wisdom from on high after the fact. The dude literally spent his entire tenure chasing college skirt and hanging out in the Haymarket bars
 



He should have learned to not drink so heavily and party with Co-ed girls while married and chasing after them while at work. Most adult men learn to do that by the time they reach 26 years old, stop hanging out at college bars. Frost should also learn to not hog the golf simulator at work. Should have read the thread, looks like Zepplin Gopher has the same summary, cheers.
 

The reality is this:

Frost struck gold with McKenzie Milton at UCF. Before he was injured, he was -- hands down -- the best dual threat QB in America.

And, with scheme alone, a true top dual threat QB cannot be stopped. I saw Milton play in person many times. He was special and could not be stopped throughout the entire course of any given game.

Frost came to Nebraska with the "strategy" of repeating the McKenzie Milton miracle. The problem is that a guy like Milton comes along only once every five years or ten years or so, and there is no guarantee you're going to get him.

So you end with Adrian Martinez (i.e., a running back who can throw a little), and you hope and pray he turns into Milton. Because if he could only do that, you'd win out in the B1G. But, alas, Martinez simply wasn't even close to being Milton. ...And when that doesn't work you end up with Luke McCaffrey: another running back who can throw a little bit. And so on. Rinse and repeat.

Frost needs a strategy that is more reliable than "I'm going to find the next transcendent dual threat QB and sign him, because a transcendent dual threat QB is a defensive scheme buster."

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touchdownvikings said:
Frost struck gold with McKenzie Milton…
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Still not sure if he could throw the ball more than 40 yards, but he was a fun college QB to watch.

And I hated to see the completions to Dredrick Snelson, I thought he would have blown up here,
 

Unregistered User said:
Still not sure if he could throw the ball more than 40 yards, but he was a fun college QB to watch.

And I hated to see the completions to Dredrick Snelson, I thought he would have blown up here,
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I still remember when Dredrick committed here and someone posted it but their phone auto corrected it to Frederick Seldom.
 

gopherdudepart2 said:
He should have learned to not drink so heavily and party with Co-ed girls while married and chasing after them while at work. Most adult men learn to do that by the time they reach 26 years old, stop hanging out at college bars. Frost should also learn to not hog the golf simulator at work. Should have read the thread, looks like Zepplin Gopher has the same summary, cheers.
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It ain’t 1992 anymore. Ask Barry or Mel.
 

touchdownvikings said:
The reality is this:

Frost struck gold with McKenzie Milton at UCF. Before he was injured, he was -- hands down -- the best dual threat QB in America.

And, with scheme alone, a true top dual threat QB cannot be stopped. I saw Milton play in person many times. He was special and could not be stopped throughout the entire course of any given game.

Frost came to Nebraska with the "strategy" of repeating the McKenzie Milton miracle. The problem is that a guy like Milton comes along only once every five years or ten years or so, and there is no guarantee you're going to get him.

So you end with Adrian Martinez (i.e., a running back who can throw a little), and you hope and pray he turns into Milton. Because if he could only do that, you'd win out in the B1G. But, alas, Martinez simply wasn't even close to being Milton. ...And when that doesn't work you end up with Luke McCaffrey: another running back who can throw a little bit. And so on. Rinse and repeat.

Frost needs a strategy that is more reliable than "I'm going to find the next transcendent dual threat QB and sign him, because a transcendent dual threat QB is a defensive scheme buster."

...for those that need to remind themselves:
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I agree. He had a great run at UCF and thought it was more him than it was. That's easy to do for any of us. Sometimes you don't really know how great you are until you try it someplace else. Well, as it turns out, Nebraska didn't have as much potential as he thought it did and neither did he.

I hope he gets his personal life and career straightened back out at UCF. For many reasons, some of which you outlined above, I don't think it will be as easy the second time.
 

touchdownvikings said:
The reality is this:

Frost struck gold with McKenzie Milton at UCF. Before he was injured, he was -- hands down -- the best dual threat QB in America.

And, with scheme alone, a true top dual threat QB cannot be stopped. I saw Milton play in person many times. He was special and could not be stopped throughout the entire course of any given game.

Frost came to Nebraska with the "strategy" of repeating the McKenzie Milton miracle. The problem is that a guy like Milton comes along only once every five years or ten years or so, and there is no guarantee you're going to get him.

So you end with Adrian Martinez (i.e., a running back who can throw a little), and you hope and pray he turns into Milton. Because if he could only do that, you'd win out in the B1G. But, alas, Martinez simply wasn't even close to being Milton. ...And when that doesn't work you end up with Luke McCaffrey: another running back who can throw a little bit. And so on. Rinse and repeat.

Frost needs a strategy that is more reliable than "I'm going to find the next transcendent dual threat QB and sign him, because a transcendent dual threat QB is a defensive scheme buster."

...for those that need to remind themselves:
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Milton was good, but not as transcendent as you make him out to be. He played in the time of Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, Josh Allen, JT Barrett. I wouldn’t say he was ever the best dual threat hands down. UCF had other really good players on both sides of the ball. Frost really didn’t bring in many players that turned out to be very good at Nebraska.
 

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