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It still doesn't make it a real conference.
What would we call ACC football?
It still doesn't make it a real conference.
You are correct. I should have said committee. You still have provided zero evidence that the committee uses talent Rankings in their analysis in any way. We should all hope they don’t - for obvious reasons.
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The Big 12 needs to add UCF and USF/Houston. If the want they could add 4 by including Boise/Memphis/BYU to that group.
It’s a good thing there is no comparing schedules. Because if you compared them they wouldn’t be that different.
They should get in. If they tank then oh well at least they were given the opportunity
Won't happen but I agree. Settle the debate once and for all and give a non power 5 team a shot.
I dint disagree with your premise, but UCF can't be considered with the schedule they have played. Two years ago the University of Houston beat both Oklahoma and Louisville, had they not lost a couple games in the conference they may have warranted a consideration. My point is that if you are a non Power Five school you have to have at least two big time wins out of conference and then run the table.
What if UCF was tied with the citadel at halftime?
No, it was Bama (who went on to win 50-17)
The Gophers could probably be freaking 8-1 or 7-2 with UCF's schedule. Should that be in the discussion? Hell no.
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What if UCF was tied with the citadel at halftime?
Here's my question of the day. Who's more deserving. Undefeated UCF or One Loss Washington St?
I think you have to say Washington St, assuming they win out...
Teams currently ahead of UCF:
Alabama
Clemson
Georgia
Michigan
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
A loss by the bottom 4, I move UCF ahead. Top 2 can afford a loss and stay ahead of UCF. Wash St pretty equal to UCF right now with sos 58 and sagarin 15. UCF 106-23
If Georgia beats Alabama, why should Alabama still go?
We have no idea if UCF is deserving of a national title. People think they know they aren’t...but they are just guessing...however...we know the loser of the SEC title game is not deserving due to the fact that they just lost to a playoff team at the end of the season. Unfair to the winner of the SEC title game to make them do it twice IMO. Last year was a little different in that Alabama lost on the road and Georgia never beat Alabama.
If Georgia beats Alabama, why should Alabama still go?
We have no idea if UCF is deserving of a national title. People think they know they aren’t...but they are just guessing...however...we know the loser of the SEC title game is not deserving due to the fact that they just lost to a playoff team at the end of the season. Unfair to the winner of the SEC title game to make them do it twice IMO. Last year was a little different in that Alabama lost on the road and Georgia never beat Alabama.
Well because Alabama is the best team hands down. And it shouldn't matter when you lose (although it always does). Losing early (Michigan and Ohio St) shouldn't take precedence. But nobody wants 2 SEC teams, so let's hope Bama beats Georgia. If Georgia wins, UCF is out for sure...
If Alabama loses to Georgia, they aren’t the best team hands down like you just said.
I don’t think Georgia beats Alabama. But if they do. It means Bama isn’t the team everyone thinks they are.
It means they are in the same boat as the rest of the one loss teams. And I don't see, based on their play this year, how you could not see them as one of the 4 best. I'd agree with the argument if we were sitting here with 5 undefeated teams from the Power 5. But we're not...
UCF boatraced ACC coastal champ, a league with the same sagarin as B1G west. Had game against UNC cancelled, would have helped them some, although unc not good.
UCF has to win out, but I could see them gain stream.
And honestly, you are going to pin your hat on them beating a 7-4 Pitt team? Pitt isn't good. UCF hasn't played anyone of note. As of the next poll, not one team that will be ranked. Undefeated is good, but they are not deserving. Play someone of note in the non-conference. Prove yourself.
So the ACC coastal champ by 30 isn’t anything? Is the same as a win vs B1G west champ this year. Had UNC game canceled. Would MN or anyone in the B1G schedule them? Can’t complain about 12-0 if you are unwilling to play games. I’m not going to fault UCF when P5 is afraid to schedule tough games. FL, FL St, Miami, where are you?
Put them in, it would be good for the smugness of college football. Watch them get games after getting into the playoff.
My biggest gripe in this sort of debate is that if given enough chances, any team can beat another. Back in the days of WCHA Gopher hockey, we beat NoDak in a hard fought 4 game season series, edged them for the conference title, beat them 3-2 in the conference playoffs, then met them in the NCAA’s and lost 3-2. Why did we have to play them again after proving our worth all season long plus the playoffs?
It should have been the best in the West vs the best of the other regions. That’s what I believe is needed in the college football playoffs. As I have posted earlier, it’ will come down to money, but UCF deserves recognition. Sure, if we had their schedule, we may have a similar record, but we should have beat Illinois, yet they destroyed us. It’s not about what could or should be, it’s about what happened. UCF hasn’t lost since 2015. They deserve a right to prove themselves.