Twitter From Marcus Fuller - Academics

[ColNathanJessup]

So, if a regular student has to get a job to help pay for school and that requires 20+ hours a week, do they get an extension too?

LOL. "regular students" get extensions all the time. If you have a good relationship with your professor they are very flexible. Very few professors are out to fail people if they are actually trying and have other responsibilities that get in the way of completing work.

I would guess a lot of this falls on the players simply dropping the ball, but to pretend this is completely out of the ordinary is ludicrous.

 

[Gdizzle]

Here's a link to hear Tubby answering questions about academic standings and social networking devices.

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/coaches/

 

[bga1]

Whatever.

No accountability whatsoever these days.

I don't hear of any football players needing extensions.

If practice time takes sooooo much time away from their studies, why doesn't Tubby allow them to miss practice to get their academic affairs in order. After all, they're STUDENT-athletes right?

Art- incompletes and the ability to make them up have been around for many, many years. Rest assured they exist in football and with every type of student.

 

[WilliamsArenaGuy]

Art is just getting hammered here continually lately. He has no response. When he reverts to, "Whatever," you know he's been beat.

It's so fun to watch.

 

[WanderingGopher]

Yes. But that obviously hasn't prevented many of us from posting thousands of times on Gopher athletic message boards has it?

I don't see how to include the original post (by the guy with 14,000+ posts to a college sports board, LOL) but it has to win some kind of award for irony!

 

[dbuton]

LOL. "regular students" get extensions all the time. If you have a good relationship with your professor they are very flexible. Very few professors are out to fail people if they are actually trying and have other responsibilities that get in the way of completing work.

I would guess a lot of this falls on the players simply dropping the ball, but to pretend this is completely out of the ordinary is ludicrous.

I have a few different degrees from 2 different Universites and i never saw any regular student getting any extensions-unless it was medically related. Athletes were treated differently, not better but just differently based on whatever they had going on outside the classroom. But they were still held to the same standards. They would maybe get an extra week to get something done, but not weeks and not a month. College is supposed to be preparing students for the real world, and getting extensions does not happen in our world. Either do the work, or we will find someone else.

 

[GophersInIowa]

A friend of mine is getting her PhD right now. She had a final paper due at the end of the last semester. Along with several others, she was given an incomplete on the paper and was told she could rewrite it. It is due at the end of this week even though the semester ended a few weeks ago. I would consider that an extension. That's not the first time I've heard of this happening.

Oh, and she is not an athlete. Neither are the others who were given the extension.

 

[MRJ]

I wouldn't worry too much about Art folks. This is after all the same guy who implied the "inmates were running the asylum" after Tubby dared to let Royce White watch practice one day a few weeks back.

Therefore, statements like the one he's made in this thread are simply par for the course.

 

[tjgopher]

I have a few different degrees from 2 different Universites and i never saw any regular student getting any extensions-unless it was medically related. Athletes were treated differently, not better but just differently based on whatever they had going on outside the classroom. But they were still held to the same standards. They would maybe get an extra week to get something done, but not weeks and not a month. College is supposed to be preparing students for the real world, and getting extensions does not happen in our world. Either do the work, or we will find someone else.

Extensions do exist for regular students - I had a friend who needed one many years ago and frankly didn't have a good excuse, he just simply told the professor he was behind and needed a little extra time for his final paper. The professor told him he'd give him extra time, but the final paper would be docked one full letter grade. My friend was a good writer, got the paper in, was awarded a B- for a paper he normally would have gotten an A- on, but he was able to complete the class with a good enough grade to remain on the dean's list (this was not at the U of M, btw).

And, while there are times where hard deadlines exist in the real world, by and large, reasonable people often times can come to compromise and do what's best for everyone. To me, that is as good of a lesson as anything a college can teach.

 

[KD6-3.7]

I have a few different degrees from 2 different Universites and i never saw any regular student getting any extensions-unless it was medically related. .

of course you didn't. a student does not stand up in front of her peers and announce that they need an incomplete. it is done in the professor's office. i received an incomplete due to technical problems handing in a paper on-line at the U. the professor allowed me to turn it in long after the semester was over and then she changed my grade from 'I' to 'A+' i even had a professor tell me that he had seen numerous students graduate that he knew had incompletes on their records. incompletes are not out of the ordinary at all.

as someone else said before. if a student is doing her coursework and has been participating, then the professor will normally bend over backward to clear up any incompletes.

 

[dbuton]

Extensions do exist for regular students - I had a friend who needed one many years ago and frankly didn't have a good excuse, he just simply told the professor he was behind and needed a little extra time for his final paper. The professor told him he'd give him extra time, but the final paper would be docked one full letter grade. My friend was a good writer, got the paper in, was awarded a B- for a paper he normally would have gotten an A- on, but he was able to complete the class with a good enough grade to remain on the dean's list (this was not at the U of M, btw).

And, while there are times where hard deadlines exist in the real world, by and large, reasonable people often times can come to compromise and do what's best for everyone. To me, that is as good of a lesson as anything a college can teach.

I guess it all depends on what classes you are taking, your major, and what school you attend.

 

[KD6-3.7]

I guess it all depends on what classes you are taking, your major, and what school you attend.

nope, campus-wide policy

1. There shall be a temporary symbol I , incomplete, awarded to indicate that the work of the course has not been completed.

The I shall be assigned at the discretion of the instructor when, due to extraordinary circumstances, the student was prevented from completing the work of the course on time. The assignment of an I requires a written agreement between the instructor and student specifying the time and manner in which the student will complete the course requirements. In no event may any such written agreement allow a period of longer than one year to complete the course requirements.

For graduate and professional students, an I is to remain on the transcript until changed by the instructor or department. For all other students, work to make up an I must be submitted within one year of the last day of final examinations of the term in which the I was given; if not submitted by that time, the I will automatically change to an F (if the student was registered on the A-F system) or an N (if the student was registered on the S-N system) for the course. 1

When an I is changed to another symbol, the I is removed from the record. Once an I has become an F or an N, under the provisions of the preceding paragraph, it may subsequently be converted to any other grade, upon petition by the instructor (or the department if the instructor is unavailable) to the college.

A student does not need to be registered at the University in order to complete the work necessary to convert an I to a grade with credit in the time and manner previously agreed upon between the student and the instructor. 2 The instructor is expected to turn in the new grade within four weeks of the date the work was submitted by the student. 3

 

[howeda7]

nope, campus-wide policy

1. There shall be a temporary symbol I , incomplete, awarded to indicate that the work of the course has not been completed.

The I shall be assigned at the discretion of the instructor when, due to extraordinary circumstances, the student was prevented from completing the work of the course on time. The assignment of an I requires a written agreement between the instructor and student specifying the time and manner in which the student will complete the course requirements. In no event may any such written agreement allow a period of longer than one year to complete the course requirements.

For graduate and professional students, an I is to remain on the transcript until changed by the instructor or department. For all other students, work to make up an I must be submitted within one year of the last day of final examinations of the term in which the I was given; if not submitted by that time, the I will automatically change to an F (if the student was registered on the A-F system) or an N (if the student was registered on the S-N system) for the course. 1

When an I is changed to another symbol, the I is removed from the record. Once an I has become an F or an N, under the provisions of the preceding paragraph, it may subsequently be converted to any other grade, upon petition by the instructor (or the department if the instructor is unavailable) to the college.

A student does not need to be registered at the University in order to complete the work necessary to convert an I to a grade with credit in the time and manner previously agreed upon between the student and the instructor. 2 The instructor is expected to turn in the new grade within four weeks of the date the work was submitted by the student. 3

The Incomplete can stay in place for a whole year? I wonder how common this policy is. I could see some school (cough Memphis cough) letting players have incompletes for the full duration of thier illustrious 1 year careers...

 

[underground629]

How would you know if someone got an extension?

I have a few different degrees from 2 different Universites and i never saw any regular student getting any extensions-unless it was medically related. Athletes were treated differently, not better but just differently based on whatever they had going on outside the classroom. But they were still held to the same standards. They would maybe get an extra week to get something done, but not weeks and not a month. College is supposed to be preparing students for the real world, and getting extensions does not happen in our world. Either do the work, or we will find someone else.

 

[Mulligan]

Rest assured they will receive all the assistance they need to meet that deadline.

Um, you do know that Jan Gangelhoff died?

 

[Reserve]

Not that this is a big deal but ..

From Marcus Fuller a few minutes ago ..

The Gophers didn't allow the media to talk to Al Nolen after practice today without giving a reason.