Tubby to DePaul?

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MRJ

MRJ said:
Well after having read through this thread so far, I can honestly say one thing:

It's good for really long laugh.

Other than that, it's not worth much of anything.
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MRJ, I agree.

What a silly thread.

I have heard rumblings too but I usualy drink some water and go to bed and the rumblings go away.
 

Missed-layup said:
Good Point, I might have used a bad choice of words. I was thinking about here at MN. None of his "people" have been anything other than average to slightly above average- Yet! Royce White and Mikbwekwe have yet to play so the jury is out on them. Recruiting classes don't necessarily equate to success, it depends how they play. Tubby has a great track record no doubt.
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Recruiting classes DO equate to success, and lack of them equate to failure.

Tubby has been to 15 of the past 16 NCAA tourneys. The only coach who made 16 is Roy Williams. No other coach has more than 15 (of past 16).

Tubby has 16 straight 20+ W seasons. The only coach with more is no one. Tubby leads Div I coaches (active, not all-time) in most consecutive 20+ W seasons.
 

jamiche said:
It's not too hard to get to 20 wins when 60% of the victories are basically scrimmages for profit. Rodney Williams looked like a future lottery pick during the scrimmages for profit and now he looks like a freshman with some potential. Hard to say how much talent Tubby has brought in when the vast majority of games are that in name only.
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Tubby has 16 straight 20+ W seasons. No other active coach has that many, and only Lute Olson and Dean Smith have more (consecutive 20 W seasons) all-time.

It must not be all that easy, or more coaches would do it.
 

Friend Of Tubby said:
Tubby has 16 straight 20+ W seasons. No other active coach has that many, and only Lute Olson and Dean Smith have more (consecutive 20 W seasons) all-time.

It must not be all that easy, or more coaches would do it.
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Or maybe other coaches play real schedules.
 

jamiche said:
Or maybe other coaches play real schedules.
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I get that you're an angry season ticket holder disgruntled with the home NC slate this year, and I don't blame you. But the reality is that the Gophers schedule overall this year is no worse then average when compared to other BCS-conference teams. The home NC schedule for 2009 is now history and can't be undone. You do get one more conference home game then most conferences. Let it go.
 


howeda7 said:
I get that you're an angry season ticket holder disgruntled with the home NC slate this year, and I don't blame you. But the reality is that the Gophers schedule overall this year is no worse then average when compared to other BCS-conference teams. The home NC schedule for 2009 is now history and can't be undone. Let it go.
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Nothing in the past can be undone. That's how life works. The 2009-2010 non conference schedule was not an aberration. I can't remember the last time we played a non conference game at home against a top 25 team (Heaven forbid Top 10!). It was partly excusable under Monson because he was, well, Monson. Now we have a famous coach which means that we are supposed to run with the big boys from time to time, particularly at home in front of the customers, and most of what we get are D1 schools in name only.
 

jamiche said:
Or maybe other coaches play real schedules.
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I know Tubby's non-conference schedule at Minnesota has not been great. But, the nine years at Kentucky were consistently the hardest non-conference schedules out there. His two years at Georgia had tough schedules, too. So, his string of 20-win seasons includes some of the hardest non-conference schedules out there. In his time in Kentucky and UGA, Tubby played these teams in the non-league schedule (NOT including NCAA tourney games):

1995-96 (Georgia):
Pittsburgh
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech

1996-97 (Georgia):
Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech
East Carolina
BYU
Colorado
Washington State
Memphis
Maryland

1997-98 (Kentucky):
Arizona
Missouri
Clemson
Purdue
Indiana
Georgia Tech
Louisville

1998-99 (Kentucky):
Pittsburgh
UCLA
Kansas
Miami (FL)
Indiana
Maryland
Georgia Tech
Duke
Louisville

1999-2000 (Kentucky):
Utah
Maryland
Arizona
Dayton
Indiana
Maryland
Louisville
Michigan State

2000-2001 (Kentucky):
St. John's
UCLA
Penn State
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Michigan State
Indiana
Louisville

2001-2002 (Kentucky):
Marshall
North Carolina
Duke
Indiana
Louisville
Tulane

2002-2003 (Kentucky):
Arizona State
Virginia
Gonzaga
North Carolina
Tulane
Michigan State
Indiana
Louisville

2003-2004 (Kentucky):
Marshall
UCLA
Michigan State
Indiana
Louisville
North Carolina

2004-2005 (Kentucky):
North Carolina
Indiana
Louisville
Kansas

2005-2006 (Kentucky):
Iowa
West Virginia
North Carolina
Indiana
Louisville
Kansas

2006-2007 (Kentucky):
Miami (OH)
DePaul
UCLA
Memphis
North Carolina
Indiana
Santa Clara
Louisville
UMass
Houston

Damn, no wonder he wanted a non-conference breather when he got here.
 

tjgopher said:
I know Tubby's non-conference schedule at Minnesota has not been great. But, the nine years at Kentucky were consistently the hardest non-conference schedules out there. His two years at Georgia had tough schedules, too. So, his string of 20-win seasons includes some of the hardest non-conference schedules out there. In his time in Kentucky and UGA, Tubby played these teams in the non-league schedule (NOT including NCAA tourney games):

1995-96 (Georgia):
Pittsburgh
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech

1996-97 (Georgia):
Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech
East Carolina
BYU
Colorado
Washington State
Memphis
Maryland

1997-98 (Kentucky):
Arizona
Missouri
Clemson
Purdue
Indiana
Georgia Tech
Louisville

1998-99 (Kentucky):
Pittsburgh
UCLA
Kansas
Miami (FL)
Indiana
Maryland
Georgia Tech
Duke
Louisville

1999-2000 (Kentucky):
Utah
Maryland
Arizona
Dayton
Indiana
Maryland
Louisville
Michigan State

2000-2001 (Kentucky):
St. John's
UCLA
Penn State
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Michigan State
Indiana
Louisville

2001-2002 (Kentucky):
Marshall
North Carolina
Duke
Indiana
Louisville
Tulane

2002-2003 (Kentucky):
Arizona State
Virginia
Gonzaga
North Carolina
Tulane
Michigan State
Indiana
Louisville

2003-2004 (Kentucky):
Marshall
UCLA
Michigan State
Indiana
Louisville
North Carolina

2004-2005 (Kentucky):
North Carolina
Indiana
Louisville
Kansas

2005-2006 (Kentucky):
Iowa
West Virginia
North Carolina
Indiana
Louisville
Kansas

2006-2007 (Kentucky):
Miami (OH)
DePaul
UCLA
Memphis
North Carolina
Indiana
Santa Clara
Louisville
UMass
Houston

Damn, no wonder he wanted a non-conference breather when he got here.
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Those of us who help pay the bills would be thrilled by preseason home schedules that include some of those teams. This year, in addition to pissing off his customers, Tubby left himself with no room to make the tourney. Everybody but FOT, who will groove on another 20 win season, will be greatly disappointed by the step in the wrong direction.

I never said this during the Monson era, because the expectations were so low, but I think the U owes season ticket holders a partial refund. It will never happen, of course, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't.
 

Never Said Anything Of The Sort

20 W ain't enough one year.

20+ W (average 25 W) for 16 straight years is better than most (almost all).
 




The Truth said:
Good luck with that then. They're not going to get anyone worth a damn considering the mess they have in regards to facilities, compensation and, most of all, their chances of winning in the Big East. Better to take a flier (which I pointed out and said zero about HC experience) on someone like Webster/Howard who are young, hungry, and know how to recruit (especially the talent rich Chicago area) than another castoff or retread.

What experienced HC is going to want to walk into that mess for what they're willing to pay?
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No idea WHO but they won't hire someone to spend his 1st year as HC for DePaul.
 

One would think FOT would want Tubby to take the DePaul job. Think about how much easier it would be to stalk him. Maybe you guys can be roomies????
 




ShowinGoldyLove said:
Excuse me for questioning you, but how in the Lord's name do you have "inside" connections to even hear about such "rumblings?"

Second of all, DePaul? Honestly? DEPAUL?

The reasons you list are completely ridiculous..."close to home?" Saying Chicago is closer than Minneapolis to Tubby's home in Maryland is like saying Ohio State is closer than Penn State to Los Angeles...it's still halfway across the country, and about a 40 min difference in flight time.

Have you SEEN the fan/academic support at DePaul? Their home games make a MIAC game look crowded. Lastly, in regards to "tourney team," I can PROMISE you that we'll be a tourney team years before DePaul.

In all honesty, I'll assume you are trolling and posted this thread in jest, because you honestly cannot be serious?
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I bet when Tubby took the Minnesota job, people where like: Minnesota? Honestly? Minnesota? ShowinGoldyLove is right, this program without Trevor and Royce is simply just mediocre. It's not likely that Minnesota will make the NCAA Tournament this season (if it loses to Michigan State) and next season's recruiting class is filled with projected "role players" because Tubby thought he was going to have White and Mbakwe. If the fans are frustrated with Minnesota basketball right now, just think how the coach feels! Also, the 2009-10 Minnesota team is going to be the squad that breaks Tubby's 20-win streak. That's not a good feeling.
But with that said, Tubby came here because he knew he had a project in hand. I don't think he's the type of guy that would just get up and leave with the job half done.
 


What do you think Tubby's schedule will look like if he goes to DePaul? Will it shape up as easy as his MN schedule?
 


New Stadium for DePaul

Apparently DePaul University owns a large tract of land in the Chicago area they plan on using a portion of it to build a new basketball stadium. This might attract a coach such as Tubby, as this has been an issue here at MN. These rumors are starting to add up.

" The school purchased an entire block in the Loop (the building right in front of the DePaul Center, which is now the home of the College of Communication) in addition to building a brand new Science building in the Lincoln Park Campus. The school also owns the large block in Lincoln Park just north of the Richardson Library (which by the way has its own 100-car parking lot)."
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=430&f=2585&t=5468683
 



Missed-layup said:
These rumors are starting to add up.
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Only in your mind my friend.

Information that DePaul owns property near the school is earth-shattering and evidence that Tubby may be thinking about DePaul because they *may* get a new facility 10 years down the road?

My God, I didn't think your posts could get any worse than the past few days...but there you go again, and totally redeem yourself!
 

I'm just trying to connect the dots. They all don't add up for me that is for sure but maybe Tubby is thinking about his sons success down the road. That is not such an outlandish idea.
 



Missed-layup said:
What do you think Tubby's schedule will look like if he goes to DePaul? Will it shape up as easy as his MN schedule?
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Well, since DePaul plays in the Big East with so many good teams, his NC schedule would likely be even more of a joke. Getting 20 W's at DePaul would be even more difficult than here at Minnesota so why would OTS risk breaking the streak?
 

Maybe Tubby dos not care about the Streak! He might want to win championships or at least set his kid up to win championships.
 

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